On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

flynnibus

Premium Member
You aren't lying if you don't broadcast that you've just been laid off.

The scenario here was linkedin.. and saying you hadn't seen changes... and that would be for NDAs. For an NDA to 'force me' to not change my employment history would be to lie to say I'm still working for the company. That's not happening.

NDAs aren't going to ban you from acknowledging your separation. They will ban you from discussing the terms.

Never mind that the size of layoffs Disney would be talking about here would likely fall under the WARN act. You can't NDA your way out of that.

The entire 'NDAs are why you don't hear about layoffs' is a complete bunkus idea.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The point is when the dealer sells a loan - they get a commission. That is money the dealer sees in the transaction and hence has more space to negotiate the sales price lower. You're baiting them with money they think they will get.. so let them sell the loan, then close the loan. That was the point of the item mentioned.

Reality is most can't easily close out the loan - so in most cases, being armed with your own Financing is best to ensure you get the best possible rate. But go in with your interest rate, and 9/10 times, the dealer will work to have their banks match your rate. So they can still get their commission and the bank still gets the loan.

Dealers are incentivized to direct buyers to their partners. CA's point was - use that to your advantage because the dealer will see more items in their + column if you use their loan.
See...but the way you phrased it - it makes sense...

He’s just been ranting and gotten stung. It’s a bad weekend - apparently?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean I can’t read. :)

Failure wasn't the choice - it was their outcome. It's a fact many come down to 'work their dream job' and find out they can't make it work. Many don't do the due diligence to see what the math really is.. they instead let 'dreams' cloud their judgement and then a year or so later they leave in disgust.

There is no 'choice' in acknowledging that reality - that's history.
 

hopemax

Well-Known Member
You mean mean people who can’t afford or don’t want to prepay for a park visit 10, 11, 12 months from now. There’s a certain amount of cynicism in thinking it solely markets to those that can’t afford to prepay. I can certainly afford to prepay our Uni passes, but there’s no reason to.
AFAIK, Universal AP's renew at a 20% discount if you pay in full vs FlexPay.

 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Failure wasn't the choice - it was their outcome. It's a fact many come down to 'work their dream job' and find out they can't make it work. Many don't do the due diligence to see what the math really is.. they instead let 'dreams' cloud their judgement and then a year or so later they leave in disgust.

There is no 'choice' in acknowledging that reality - that's history.
Well here I completely agree...

You’re describing what I label as the “Boomerang Effect” to a T
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The scenario here was linkedin.. and saying you hadn't seen changes... and that would be for NDAs. For an NDA to 'force me' to not change my employment history would be to lie to say I'm still working for the company. That's not happening.

NDAs aren't going to ban you from acknowledging your separation. They will ban you from discussing the terms.

Never mind that the size of layoffs Disney would be talking about here would likely fall under the WARN act. You can't NDA your way out of that.

The entire 'NDAs are why you don't hear about layoffs' is a complete bunkus idea.

I'm just wondering now how many other significant lay-offs have taken place in secret!!

;)
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
The scenario here was linkedin.. and saying you hadn't seen changes... and that would be for NDAs. For an NDA to 'force me' to not change my employment history would be to lie to say I'm still working for the company. That's not happening.

NDAs aren't going to ban you from acknowledging your separation. They will ban you from discussing the terms.

Never mind that the size of layoffs Disney would be talking about here would likely fall under the WARN act. You can't NDA your way out of that.

The entire 'NDAs are why you don't hear about layoffs' is a complete bunkus idea.
If the NDA includes a clause that prohibits you from posting your dismissal on social sites, and you sign it, then you've agreed to those terms. It's a contract.

It's one thing to update your resume on linkdin -- it's something else to rush to twitter or facetime to scream that you've been fired.

Would it be legal? I don't know.

But I know I wouldn't want to spend my severance bonus on lawyers to find out.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
But from an accounting purpose...they do that anyway.

If I buy my $850 “discount”
Pass today...they recognize that revenue over the course of the year even if the money leaves me all at once.

Are you certain that Disney works that way?
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
Failure wasn't the choice - it was their outcome. It's a fact many come down to 'work their dream job' and find out they can't make it work. Many don't do the due diligence to see what the math really is.. they instead let 'dreams' cloud their judgement and then a year or so later they leave in disgust.

There is no 'choice' in acknowledging that reality - that's history.

So what point are you trying to make? That Disney should be paying more? Or that nobody should work for Disney?
 

bryanfze55

Well-Known Member
I lost my rose colored glasses for Disney resorts in Florida when I started travelling in Asia. I stayed at the Sheraton Grande Tokyo Bay on my first visit to Tokyo Disney in 2007 for 150$ US. My sister talked the front desk person into putting us on the Concierge level, which was absolutely amazing. Our room was huge, we had a balcony overlooking Tokyo DisneySea on on the second highest floor and the lounge spread counted as a full buffet with liquor and beer.

Meanwhile, for 600-700$ US, I get a room that appears in many cases as generic as an airport hotel at the Polynesian Village or Contemporary Resort in Florida. When I stayed at the Intercontinental Tokyo and I checked in at 3, I said I would like steak... they called the teppanyaki restaurant on the 36th floor and kept a chef there for me so we could have a steak dinner. At WDW: even if you're staying on the concierge level of a deluxe, the "concierge" can't do anything.

Last year, I returned to Singapore. I used points to stay at an Intercontinental in Singapore and it was amazing. Oops, your significant other need a wheelchair due to a small accident? The concierge arranged one and brought it to our room. Oh, thank you for being an ambassador member! You have resort credits, get points on the purchases and free drinks at the bar. If Disney wanted to really go into the luxurious hotel game, they need to offer a loyalty program with real perks, have concierges with real power and go above and beyond.

Japanese culture tends to be far more eager to please. And it’s not fake as is prevalent in the US; that’s just genuinely their culture.

Also, Disney hasn’t needed to do any of those things, because there seemed to be an endless line of people willing to pay $600-$700 a night. I’m not one of them, for the record. **** that. But I do wonder when (or if) there will be an army of people ready to pay those prices again.
 

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