On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

SpaceMountain77

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I went to Epcot and Magic Kingdom and Hollywood Studios when in 2002/2003. They were offering veterans a deep discount to get them and their families in the park. I had many fond memories. Mission Space was brand new and we actually liked it. Disney advertised the heck out of Philharmagic for some reason

In September 2002, we stayed in a garden view, club level room at Disney' Polynesian Resort for $350 per night. At the time, the offerings at the club level lounge were so plentiful and varied that we did not have to eat many meals elsewhere.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
What I will say, some smarter ones stay part time on the weekends while working a full time "real" job outside of the parks, and leverage the glorious golden turd that is "The Walt Disney Company" on their resume for a job search in another state later on.
I once hired a young woman in part because her resume stated that she had been a boat skipper on the Tom Sawyer Island boat crossing.
In all seriousness...Disney is vastly more impressive outside their area than in. People that vacation there love to hire people from there. It’s weird but consistent.
It is pretty obvious at this point that if in fact there were layoffs yesterday, it wasn’t among the frontline cast members. That would have been all over social media. If layoffs happened yesterday it was among the management ranks.

Typically management is the first wave. It doesn’t get much pub
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
They do NOT want APs descending on those parks. Don’t look for it to change. It doesn’t make financial sense in their market.

This makes sense to me. APs aren't buying tickets or staying in Disney hotel rooms (for the most part), nor are they spending a lot of money on other items in the parks. That means Disney would probably be hemorrhaging money on a day filled up with just APs.

Under normal circumstances that's fine because the parks are fully staffed etc. for regular crowds anyways, but that's not the case right now.
 

TaylorHound

Member
Plus, there is no real need to layoff someone who is already furloughed. Just avoid the bad PR and say you intend to bring them all back as soon as business improves.
If I had to take a guess the vast majority of these layoffs are going to be corporate, WDI, and potentially management within the parks. Front line shouldn't be hit too bad if hit at all
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
Maybe they’ll take this seriously. A few screencaps from a project I’m working on. Shot by someone not a million miles from here, around two weeks ago, late morning on a nice dry day, in Disney’s new billion dollar flagship land.
Below are some photo's from my son's trip July 19-23 (Sunday to Thursday).

Multiple headliner rides were walk-on. He experienced Flights of Passage 5 times (was even allowed to cut through the FP+ line at one point), Smuggler's Run 5 times, Test Track 3 times, Space Mountain 5 times, Rock n Roller Coaster 5 times, Expedition Everest 5 times. For most, it was a matter of his group simply getting bored with the attraction and deciding to move on.

Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Train was the longest line, followed by Slinky Dog Dash. (This last because it was down for most of the day.)

Crowds were light throughout the trip, with Disney Hollywood Studios feeling the most crowded, by far.

As his photos show, it was possible to encounter moments of modest crowds but also see the parks nearly empty, with many of his contrasting photos taken within an hour of each other.

These give you a sense of what it was like for my son during his weekday trip in mid-July.

Epcot Sunday Evening:

Epcot Sunday night.jpg


Bridge Leaving Pandora Monday Morning:

Bridge to Pandora Midday Monday.jpg


Leaving Animal Kingdom Monday at 5:30 PM:

Leaving Animal Kingdom after 5 PM Monday.jpg


Magic Kingdom Tuesday Opening:

Magic Kingdom Opening Tuesday.jpg


Walkway To Tomorrowland Tuesday Noon:

Walkway to Tomorrowland Noon Tuesday.jpg


Waiting for Rise Of The Resistance Wednesday at 1 PM:

Waiting for Rise of the Resistance Wednesday Midday.jpg


Galaxy's Edge 1 Hour Later:

Galaxy's Edge Midday Wednesday.jpg


Disney's Hollywood Studios Wednesday Afternoon:

Disney Hollywood Studios Wednesday Afternoon.jpg


One of the more crowded images of Disney's Hollywood Studios:

One of the more crowded scenes at DHS.jpg
 
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MaximumEd

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Our recent trip from July 12-22 was the same. I have a couple pics I took when walking into Liberty Square from FL. One each direction toward Frontier and Mansion. They were taken at noon and there’s barely anyone in the shots. One day the MK opened at 9. By 11 we rode Space, 7D, Pooh, Small World, Peter Pan, Mermaid, and HM. 2 hours flat.
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
The problem at WDI is that the vast majority of the Baby Boomer generation of talent (Tony Baxter, Eddie Sotto, Tim & Steve Kirk) were either pushed out or moved on out of frustration to greener pastures while still in their prime and they never really had the opprotunity to mentor and facilitate the next generation (Gen X and Millenial) of talent at imagineering. So what you have left at WDI is mostly the mediocre remnants of the baby boomer imagineers (Kathy Magnum, Tom Fitzgerald, etc.) and under them a bunch of worker Bees who just treat imagineering as "just as job" and do what ever the corporation tells them to do. There is no passion, creativity, or craftsmanship left so laying off imagineers will be a mercy killing at this point.

We just don't get things like the 1967 Tomorrowland with all its interconnectivity, or big brand new ride system concepts, or rich theming, or creative ideas like Splash Mountain and its ingenious reuse of the America Sings animatronics. The glory days have been over for a long time :(
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
First, Phone call from HR. If you don’t answer, you receive a certified mail for a return date.

That's how you algo get terminated for no-call/no-show. You get a certified letter.

It happened to one person I know who got into a nasty car accident and was hospitalized for a week or so. When he got home, he received a certified letter notifying of the termination.
 

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