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Figgy1

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It sounds like you do a great job with it, but I have to say a lot of people I've met who were homeschooled or who homeschool their own kids don't make it to that level. At least where I lived, the large majority of parents who homeschooled did so so their kids weren't exposed to certain subjects, and/or weren't in contact with teens of the oppostie gender. It wasn't really for academic reasons and most of them were not really equipped to teach their kids much. I think standards today are a lot more strict...at least I hope so! But the ones I knew back home were not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree, so that's probably where the bad reputation came from. I think they've raised standards a LOT since I was a kid and I'm betting there are a lot more resources than back then. The internet alone is a HUGE resource. Youtube tutorials about science and math, crafts, etc....back when I was a kid, if you were homeschooled and your parents never graduated high school themselves, you had a problem trying to learn grammar or math. And I have to admit, I don't feel like I am qualified to teach my kid at home...how in the world would I teach them chemistry when I had problems with that myself? I think you are pretty amazing for doing what you do. I couldn't do it. I'm glad both of my kids are really bright and learn fast. I can't help them with things like science. Fortunately for all of us, my kids don't need help so far, and anything I can't help with, daddy can!
It varies from state to state but there's quite a bit of what you saw still going on.
 

Songbird76

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There is not a speck of frozen food at the local Trader Joe's or bread or water. The insanity continues --how long do people think bread will last before it gets moldy and if you think the water system is going to be shut down surely the electric will also. How long do you think frozen food will last 2 or 3 days the most before it is thawed and ruined. Mass hysteria
Well, bread at least can be kept in a freezer until you need it. When I was a kid, we were pretty poor and we lived in a town where the grocery store was small, not well-stocked, and was overpriced. The nearest town to ours was 40 miles away, so we would go once every few weeks and my mom would buy everything in bulk....10 lb packages of hamburger, the massive generic bags of cereal, and a bunch of bread. We'd bring a couple of coolers for refrigerated items and when we got home, we'd divide the meat into 1 lb packages and wrap them in freezer paper and everything would go into the deep freeze. Bread, too...then we just got out a new loaf when we needed it. And all our produce was canned or frozen because nothing grows in Wyoming...by the time fresh produce got to us it wasn't really very fresh anymore, and again, expensive. So we pretty much always had enough food and basic necessities to last for a month until the next time we could get to the grocery store. But most people aren't used to living like that and they don't know how to be efficient with the shopping, so it becomes chaotic.
Now if the electric goes out, you're going to have to rely on canned food because you won't be able to cook anything anyway, even if it's not spoiled. But if people kept their pantries stocked all the time, they wouldn't have to panic buy now.
 

Lilofan

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There is not a speck of frozen food at the local Trader Joe's or bread or water. The insanity continues --how long do people think bread will last before it gets moldy and if you think the water system is going to be shut down surely the electric will also. How long do you think frozen food will last 2 or 3 days the most before it is thawed and ruined. Mass hysteria
I noticed Asian owner and operated grocery stores have a good supply of fruit, vegetables, fish, meat, canned food and frozen food. Brisk business but nothing like the big box grocery stores that are wiped out.
 

Songbird76

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College program kids are in the US. I can't imagine they're sending international people home, but it does free up housing so they can spread people who need to be there out more.
There are international CPs, too. The youtuber we follow from the UK was on the international CP program last summer. There are several different programs...there's the college program, the cultural representative program, and I thought there was one other. The CP is relatively short though, so I can imagine it doesn't make much sense for them to stay, not knowing how long the parks will be closed and still having to pay living expenses. I would imagine that they could contact their country's embassy/consulate to ask for help in getting home.
One of my high school classmates has a daughter who was doing the CP and I asked her what she was doing and she told me already yesterday that her daughter was leaving. She didn't say anything about Disney sending her home....not sure when that decision was made.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
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There are international CPs, too. The youtuber we follow from the UK was on the international CP program last summer. There are several different programs...there's the college program, the cultural representative program, and I thought there was one other. The CP is relatively short though, so I can imagine it doesn't make much sense for them to stay, not knowing how long the parks will be closed and still having to pay living expenses. I would imagine that they could contact their country's embassy/consulate to ask for help in getting home.
One of my high school classmates has a daughter who was doing the CP and I asked her what she was doing and she told me already yesterday that her daughter was leaving. She didn't say anything about Disney sending her home....not sure when that decision was made.
I have to wonder if any exceptions were made for those from Japan, China, and Italy. Seems wrong to send them back at this point.
 

Songbird76

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So they have been given 2 days notice to pack everything they have and find a way home? The ones that already live in the US probably have cars and can drive home, but what about those that need planes? Is Disney going to cover their air travel and find the transportation for them? If it is temporary just for the closure, why can't they just stay? I don't get that.
I would guess because it's cost-prohibitive. They announced that they'll be paying CMs through the closures...they probably can't really do that with the CPs and such. And when they open, they are probably expecting attendance to be pretty low for a while and they won't need as many CMs. The CPs and CRs are expendable...they are only there temporarily anyway, and there are waves of them, so they send this batch home, and when attendance picks up, they'll bring a new batch in. That's just my guess, but I have nothing to base that on.
 

Songbird76

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It varies from state to state but there's quite a bit of what you saw still going on.
There are state standards, though right? I remember this one lady....really nice lady, but not necessarily very academically inclined, pulled her kids out of school so they wouldn't learn about reproduction in school. Another didn't want her kid to associate with the local children, who she thought would be a bad influence on her child....that girl was so socially inept and absolutely arrogant...horrible human being. It had nothing at all to do with the quality of education offered and in most cases where I was, the academics took a real back seat....not even just the back seat....they were dragging behind the car like a string of cans on a "Just married!" stretch limo. Some of those kids couldn't write a complete sentence much less do things like Algebra or Geometry. And the parents weren't worried about their kids needing those skills....it was just they didn't want their kids dating or talking to other kids about social issues. It was more about keeping information from their kids than it was about getting them proper education, which is sad. But I thought that they had introduced certain standards that they had to meet, and quotas for class times, etc. It would be really sad for kids if those things aren't checked. To be fair, some kids seem to thrive on their own and be motivated, like @MySmallWorldof4 's kids, but many of them are not like that. I took an online class in college for Political Science. I HAD to take the class to graduate, but it didn't fit into my schedule. We only met the teacher something like twice, and he told me that most of the kids in that class took it because they didn't have to show up for a class. But even if they did the assignments, most of them were lazy about it. We had to write a paper about hate crimes legislation and whether we thought Wyoming should adopt hate crimes laws, because Matthew Shepard had just been murdered. He told me I was the ONLY person in the entire class who actually researched and had statistics to back up my opinion. The ONLY one. The rest of the class just wasn't motivated to put the work in when they weren't in a structured environment. And I think that's the difference. If someone does homeschooling with a structured environment, it can be an awesome education...but if it's just a way of keeping them isolated from the influences of society, it can be really bad. And those are the ones who give homeschooling a bad reputation.
 

Songbird76

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I have to wonder if any exceptions were made for those from Japan, China, and Italy. Seems wrong to send them back at this point.
I also wonder if they are treated fairly by coworkers and such. You hear stories where people blame anyone who looks to be of Asian descent...they don't even have to be from an Asian country, but people will avoid them, or ask them ridiculous questions and just treat them poorly. I hope they can work something out so that those particular people can stay, or maybe get assistance. It's definitely not fair to just chuck them out and send them back where it's worst.
 

Lilofan

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I also wonder if they are treated fairly by coworkers and such. You hear stories where people blame anyone who looks to be of Asian descent...they don't even have to be from an Asian country, but people will avoid them, or ask them ridiculous questions and just treat them poorly. I hope they can work something out so that those particular people can stay, or maybe get assistance. It's definitely not fair to just chuck them out and send them back where it's worst.
I remember after 9/11 the Muslim community in my area were treated very unfairly.
 

MySmallWorldof4

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What is every one doing in your areas?

Do you think kids will have play dates? Have parents discussed that?
The new gym youngest goes to posted that they will be open from 9-3 for gym time where they can practice skills. Only for 8 and up. $5 an hour, or $20 for the day. I was considering setting up playdates with kids my kids know that go to public school. For my kids of course, they are always home so no change for them really.
 

MySmallWorldof4

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It varies from state to state but there's quite a bit of what you saw still going on.
In PA they have to make a portfolio of their work during the year. They need to meet with a state approved evaluator face to face, and they are required to take standardized tests for grades ,3,5, and 8. There are lots of homeschool groups. PA is also a state where homeschoolers get a recognized high school diploma when they graduate.
 

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