Why is Mermaid so bad? Found this beauty.

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Are the plastic fish twirling on a stick animatronics? How about all the plastic ones glued to the wall?

The quoted article in the OP is dead on. It's a huge disappointment for me.

So glad the alcoholic seagull gets so much airtime. That's what kids who love LMM want to see!

Is the ceiling of the lengthy and empty queue still leaking everywhere? That fact that that queue is usually empty and the ride is often a walk-on says all that needs to be said about that ride's popularity.
 

HongKongFooy

Well-Known Member
I rode it today, as I do every time I go to MK, and loved every minute. I don't understand the hatred towards the ride.

OVERT SHORTCOMINGS:
continuous loading conveyance
static, low end 1959ish AA's
closed narrative
multiple songs used
rushed storytelling
sets lack quality placesetting


The ride delivers nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever, new and noteworthy .......not one interesting engineering or storytelling feature.


Its high quality facade/frontage and queue sets the guest up for a certain expectation. And then we ride. And then the disappointment sets in.

So you don't understand how guests don't dig on "fish sticks", really?
 

MrConbon

Well-Known Member
OVERT SHORTCOMINGS:
continuous loading conveyance
static, low end 1959ish AA's
closed narrative
multiple songs used
rushed storytelling
sets lack quality placesetting


The ride delivers nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever, new and noteworthy .......not one interesting engineering or storytelling feature.


Its high quality facade/frontage and queue sets the guest up for a certain expectation. And then we ride. And then the disappointment sets in.

So you don't understand how guests don't dig on "fish sticks", really?

what’s the issue with it being an omnimover or multiple songs being used?

I am a fan of the ride and will always ride it when I’m in MK as it often has little to no wait. I’d say the only “bad” scene is the Under the Sea section as it’s full of cheap lazy animatronics. The other scenes however like the Ursula or Part of Your World get you up close with some nice AA’s and it’s refreshing to see them when so many things are screen based. I would rank it higher than Peter Pan or Winnie the Pooh for me.
 

disney4life2008

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Mermaid show at Hollywood studios is exceptional! To be fair, as much as I love mermaid it did not need a ride. And while I appreciate the ride, it's a horrible representation of mermaid. The que is ridiculous so much wasted space and the ride itself filled with questionable design.

I reminded of Disney imagineers who in videos would say, and when you turn around there is ursala the star of the show. She looks better in the Hollywood studios show. And the same about the Navi on river journey and let's not start on everest. It's all just pathetic.
 

MrConbon

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Mermaid show at Hollywood studios is exceptional! To be fair, as much as I love mermaid it did not need a ride. And while I appreciate the ride, it's a horrible representation of mermaid. The que is ridiculous so much wasted space and the ride itself filled with questionable design.

I reminded of Disney imagineers who in videos would say, and when you turn around there is ursala the star of the show. She looks better in the Hollywood studios show. And the same about the Navi on river journey and let's not start on everest. It's all just pathetic.
Voyage under the sea at Studios is absolutely dreadful. It’s a show that was never designed to last more than a year or two and it shows. It tries to shove the entire film into 15 minutes and the effects no longer hold up. With shows like Nemo and Festival of the Lion King existing, there’s no excuse for Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast to still be around.
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
Voyage under the sea at Studios is absolutely dreadful. It’s a show that was never designed to last more than a year or two and it shows. It tries to shove the entire film into 15 minutes and the effects no longer hold up. With shows like Nemo and Festival of the Lion King existing, there’s no excuse for Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast to still be around.
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I disagree. The show at Hollywood studios is amazing when it works. But the difference is the performers alone make the show. Beauty and the beast on the other hand, I can do without same with frozen sing along.
 

MrConbon

Well-Known Member
Voyage under the sea at Studios is absolutely dreadful. It’s a show that was never designed to last more than a year or two and it shows. It tries to shove the entire film into 15 minutes and the effects no longer hold up. With shows like Nemo and Festival of the Lion King existing, there’s no excuse for Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast to still be around.

I disagree. The show at Hollywood studios is amazing when it works. But the difference is the performers alone make the show. Beauty and the beast on the other hand, I can do without same with frozen sing along.
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bad blacklit puppetry, a song where Ariel sits on the rock for all of it, one cool performance by a giant Ursula and then a montage of the rest of the film. It’s so lazy.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
The thing that bothers me the most about this attraction is what bothers me about the company's handling of Ariel. She's an explorer! A risk taker! Passionate! She wants to be with humans before she ever meets Eric. But hey, she's a teenage girl, whatevs, hormones intervene. The strongest title character Disney had up until that point (and still ranks among the top). And yet, she's reduced to this cutesy-pootsy airhead.

This attraction is so disappointing because she is presented as a vapid doll with no control over her own story. Ursula and the Under the Sea scene bring forth the magic of the movie - but even the latter feels as unkinetic as Galaxy's Edge.
Is it possible to overthink a cartoon story line? Asking for a friend. ;)
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
what’s the issue with it being an omnimover or multiple songs being used?

I am a fan of the ride and will always ride it when I’m in MK as it often has little to no wait. I’d say the only “bad” scene is the Under the Sea section as it’s full of cheap lazy animatronics. The other scenes however like the Ursula or Part of Your World get you up close with some nice AA’s and it’s refreshing to see them when so many things are screen based. I would rank it higher than Peter Pan or Winnie the Pooh for me.
For me, the issues are in the storytelling. The last 1/3rd of the rides story is a disjointed mess. I don't really mind the primitive AAs used throughout. But I do think they could have put more effort into the ride and not just the facade. The Imagineers have a whole bag of tricks they can use, biut they seem to have taken the path of least resistance. The 2nd summer it was open, I was shocked when at around 10am we walked through the queue and rode the ride and saw one other person. It was kind of creepy being that empty.
 

HongKongFooy

Well-Known Member
what’s the issue with it being an omnimover or multiple songs being used?


Is that a real question? Are you serious that you don't see how an omni conveyance detracts storytelling? Wow!


This is a fairly short ride considering the amount of material the creators tried to cover and multiple songs, obviously, disjoint the experience.
 

MrConbon

Well-Known Member
Is that a real question? Are you serious that you don't see how an omni conveyance detracts storytelling? Wow!


And multiple songs, obviously, disjoint the experience.

Um an omnimover automatically doesn’t make for bad storytelling. Look at Haunted Mansion, one of the most adored rides out there. Or even Forbidden Journey which has you barely see other ride vehicles. Wow!

Also tons of rides feature multiple songs. Even if they have the same song, it will usually at least have a variation in it like It’s A Small World.
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
Is it just me, or is it starting to look like the majority of people like the ride and disliking it is actually the UNPOPULAR opinion?
 

HongKongFooy

Well-Known Member
Um an omnimover automatically doesn’t make for bad storytelling. Look at Haunted Mansion,


I saw that coming 2 miles back and I came close to a preemptive comment.

1) Mansion's strength is not the conveyance...it's the other multiple attributes
2)1969/1972 is cool, innovative, creative 2012 is lazy and unimaginative
 

MrConbon

Well-Known Member
I saw that coming 2 miles back and I came close to a preemptive comment.

1) Mansion's strength is not the conveyance...it's the other multiple attributes
2)1969/1972 is cool, innovative, creative 2012 is lazy and unimaginative

Mansion’s biggest strength is the immersion and tone. Which is a a large part of storytelling. You can have a good story with an omnimover system. Thinking you can’t is absurd. Out of all the complaints people have for Mermaid, an omnimover system is not one of them.

Forbidden Journey opened in 2010 and is widely regarded as one of the most innovative rides around. It’s an omnimover style system. You can do great things with it if the ride is good enough to support it. Making it trackless suddenly won’t make the ride good.
 

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