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Who should be excluded to help with the overcrowding problem.
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willsdad01
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My wife and I just returned from a short trip 2/10-2/13. We were surprised at the crowd levels being so high for this time of year. Our thought for going at this time was that the crowd levels would be lower due to schools not being on any breaks. Yet, the parks were very busy. We used to go with our kids at Fall Break in October. Crowd levels were decent, but throughout the years October has become very busy. Today from home I looked at the wait times and they were outrageous. 150 minutes for Space Mountain, 120 minutes for Peter Pan, 60 minutes for Buzz. Those times are awful. We spoke to a family who had made the mistake of going at Spring break last year. They said the crowd levels were such it made riding rides very difficult...waiting in extremely long lines. The more lodging capacity that is added, the more people. There also seemed to be a lot of tour groups such as cheer and other competitions going on. Fortunately, we did pay extra for the MK After Hours. It cleared a ton of people out. Seven Dwarfs Mine Ride had a wait of 10-15 minutes. Walking into Tomorrow Land was great...there was no one there. At the end of the day, it's miserable to go to a park and wait enormous wait times. I'm not sure if it's due to the FastPass system or if they are a victim of their own success. They need to figure something out though.
You can't ban certain people or groups. Three things that are driving attendance are hype over new rides (that have been well received by fans), unprecedented success at the the box office, and the economy. Disney sells itself very well. Also when the economy is doing well, people will spend money. The best way to lower attendance......start a recession, or at least fake one.
Gringrinngghost
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They already do have the power to remove them from the park and ride queues and actively do so.
Most Passholders just go to ride attractions, and Disney makes plenty off them. The other side of the coin, the vacation warriors that have to ride everything is because they feel obligated to at the current pricing, and for majority it’s multiple years of savings so even domestically Disney is becoming for the bottom 60% a once in a lifetime thing.
That’s actually the plan, like with the boarding passes, the artificial scarcity is meant to ensure you spend more time walking around the park and that increases the likelihood of you purchasing merchandise.
They won’t, because they make more money on alcohol than food purchases across the board in-park and at events like Food and Wine, alcohol is the number one seller. Same with all the other Orlando parks. They can clear more money from Alcohol then standard food service easily.
Now a magical idea would to actually reduce the given capacity of the park itself across the board. Look at Not-so-scary, the party pass made them see an attendance increase of about 20%, just due to the pass. The secondary factor is of course pricing, they’ve made themselves so expensive that there isn’t a busy and dead season anymore. It’s just a season, because while some we’re able to afford the Magic Kingdom when it was $129 a day during Christmas a few years ago, they can’t afford the now $159 dollars during the same time frame. Now they are spread out though out the year. Remember, 2005, it was $59.75 during the holidays whereas now it’s $159 during the same time frame.
It's probably time to start limiting the off-site guests.
- Cut reserved FPs to 1 per day unless you're staying on property.
- Charge day visitors a resort fee on top of their ticket media just for driving on the roads and visiting resorts.
- Collect an off-site guest surcharge at all the restaurants and CS venues.
- Implement phased closings when capacity hits 60% of max.
IanDLBZF
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That sounds harsh.
Does anyone know Disney's Standard Operating Procedure for Phased Closings (happens quite a lot during Christmas and every single New Year's Eve)?
Gabe1
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actioncookbook
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wow.
John park hopper
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Lower the park capacity by 50% on site guests get priority
unmitigated disaster
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All the Karens and the male versions of Karens.
CaptainAmerica
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Disneyland has a looooong pedestrian egress for people to get back to their vehicles and hotels. The Magic Kingdom dumps everyone at a ferry dock and a monorail station.
Goofyernmost
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Kids!!! Has anyone noticed how many little ankle biters are running around the park taking up space with their balloons, strollers and joyful demeanor? If they were not allowed there would be more room then needed along with a more serious attitude that an adult only venue would produce. Or maybe, as a society we could outlaw credit cards and all you would be greeted with inside the gates, if you had the cash, would be the melodic sounds of Jiminy's Crickets. Heaven!
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