News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

As it was not spoken into existence, it was not a changing of reality in the way we're discussing. What you are saying is reality can be whatever one wills it to be simply by stripping the meaning from everything because meaning is only what one gives it. And of course, to anyone will any of the five senses, that's not true.

It depends on how you define reality. In one sense this reality changed when it was decided that Galaxy's Edge would go into Disneyland instead of any place else.

So yes we as a species define and have a direct impact on the reality around us. However once that reality is defined in some contexts it cannot be directly changed until we again change reality.

To that end there is a reality where Tror put Galaxy's Edge in the Toy Story lot. Again it depends on how you define reality.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The book's been written:

Theme Park Design

An amazing read that touches on many points you raise. It's amazing how much more satisfying Disneyland is when you look at it from that perspective- it becomes far richer and deeper than the simple "pixie dust magic" outlook. But then, it also makes watching Disney make bad decisions hurt that much more (I still get irrationally bitter about Fantasmic). Not saying my way of looking at things is the only/right/best way- just that it's how I gain the most enjoyment from the parks. Of course, this is another relevant article:

Seeing/Not Seeing the Parks and Fan Typology

Another book that delves into Disneyland and looks at it from a mythological and cultural perspective is this (that I believe I picked up on recommendation from someone on this forum):

The Mouse and the Myth

Also, intellectual posts and discussions like these are why this forum is my favorite Disneyland online community.

All excellent reads. I recommend “project future” and “married to the mouse” about the swamp if you haven’t read them

 

[TROR]

It depends on how you define reality. In one sense this reality changed when it was decided that Galaxy's Edge would go into Disneyland instead of any place else.

So yes we as a species define and have a direct impact on the reality around us. However once that reality is defined in some contexts it cannot be directly changed until we again change reality.

To that end there is a reality where Tror put Galaxy's Edge in the Toy Story lot. Again it depends on how you define reality.

But that is not this reality. In that way, then I also cannot say what is and isn't art based on my own criteria because this isn't my reality, just as it isn't yours, nor is it any other singular person's. It is reality as it is and it cannot be changed by our own wills.

 

[Disney Irish]

But that is not this reality. In that way, then I also cannot say what is and isn't art based on my own criteria because this isn't my reality, just as it isn't yours, nor is it any other singular person's. It is reality as it is and it cannot be changed by our own wills.

Again now you’re getting it.

 

[TROR]

Again now you’re getting it.

Which is why it's not my criteria.

 

[Disney Irish]

Which is why it's not my criteria.

Except it is when you can’t accept that art is just as much subjective as it is objective.

 

[TROR]

Except it is when you can’t accept that art is just as much subjective as it is objective.

The subjectivity of art only comes on a level of personal enjoyment, not what defines it.

 

[truecoat]

 

[Sharon&Susan]

 

[Disney Irish]

I blame @NateD1226 lol

 

[TragicMike]

How fortunate are we to have been born at the perfect time in human history where we can discuss the semantics of "art" on a Disney theme park forum? Our ancestors starved fighting off mammoths, wars and disease.

 

[Disney Irish]

The subjectivity of art only comes on a level of personal enjoyment, not what defines it.

 

[fctiger]

LOL three pages of novel like arguments about the subjectivity of art because of an off hand comment I made about it over a theme park ride. People are more bored than I thought. We need some real GE news pronto.

And its OK for people to like the new Star Tours even if you personally don't. Seriously, move on already.

 

[Phroobar]

 

[SSG]

Some hints on GE's future: "When asked about a possible Galaxy’s Edge expansion, Disney Imagineering portfolio creative executive Scott Trowbridge said, “Are we planting seeds for the future? The answer to that is, unquestionably, yes.”

https://blooloop.com/features/star-wars-galaxys-edge-expansion/

 

[truecoat]

Some hints on GE's future: "When asked about a possible Galaxy’s Edge expansion, Disney Imagineering portfolio creative executive Scott Trowbridge said, “Are we planting seeds for the future? The answer to that is, unquestionably, yes.”

https://blooloop.com/features/star-wars-galaxys-edge-expansion/

It’s a new hands on experience for only $49.95 you can plant a special seed to grow your own Bantha tusk (carrot).

 

[Rich T]

Some hints on GE's future: "When asked about a possible Galaxy’s Edge expansion, Disney Imagineering portfolio creative executive Scott Trowbridge said, “Are we planting seeds for the future? The answer to that is, unquestionably, yes.”

https://blooloop.com/features/star-wars-galaxys-edge-expansion/

As long as SW fans are willing to fork over hundreds of dollars for merchandise "experiences," Disney will create more such opportunities.

 

[Disney Irish]

I really have mixed feelings about these issues. I enjoy the immersive nature of Potter, Pandora, and SW:GE, but I'm not sure I require it to enjoy these stories brought to life. I have watched Disneyland evolve since the early '60s. I was a huge Disney nerd since I was in grade school. I spent dozens of hours at the Anaheim Library once it became a depository for the Disney Archives in the early '70s.

The idea that an entire land with multiple attractions has a cohesive backstory is enjoyable to me, but not essential. I have no problem with the liberties taken with the Falcon interior. Walking up the ramp to enter the ship is just not possible--it was hard enough for the actors. The fact that the interior as filmed couldn't physically fit in the exterior shell renders any purist requirements moot for me. I wish they had done a better job with the docking ring and boarding the ship. But the size of the chess room and the corridor configuration to accommodate three cockpit boarding positions works just fine for me. I'M INSIDE THE FREAKING FALCON!!!

I think I would have been fine with a generic "Star Wars Land" that took a more generalized approach, with different attractions set in various places and times. Hell, I wish they had turned Epcot Future World into SWL and made Spaceship Earth into the Death Star--I think it would have been amazing. And they could have repurposed Body Wars into Star Tours.

My impression of SW:GE remains that it's an amazing experience and I think it will be even better when RotR opens. I'm looking forward to visiting again after everything gets settled in. The CMs need weeks, if not months, to adjust to their themed patter (this is what friends who have worked attractions have told me). The characters walking around are adjusting to doing atmosphere work instead of Meet & Greet (and it's very different for the performers). I think it will be a huge success, but I won't be surprised if there are changes that have to be made. I'm unclear as to how successful the Disney Play app will be in all this. And I wonder how well the marketplace with it's small individual stalls will handle the crowds. I think our opinions will be very different in the weeks to come--even my own, given that I have only experienced it for four hours in preview conditions, including limited crowds (which was heaven).

I'm just sorry that I'm probably not going to get to visit again any time soon (probably at least the fall). I had a great time and can't wait to do it again, over and over.

Bright Suns, friends!

I brought this over here because I have a construction related question which I think you might have some input on. Given the marketplace is small, could they effectively add a second story to any of those shops later on (say 2-3 years from now) and theme it so it blends in the background as not the interrupt the views from outside the land?

 

[The_Mesh_Hatter]

I brought this over here because I have a construction related question which I think you might have some input on. Given the marketplace is small, could they effectively add a second story to any of those shops later on (say 2-3 years from now) and theme it so it blends in the background as not the interrupt the views from outside the land?

There’s really only two proper shops in the land: the Den of Antiques and the Droid Depot. Both of those have extremely high ~20 ft ceilings. So most of that height is used for ceilings, or break rooms. Every other shop is just a stall.

 

[Disney Irish]

There’s really only two proper shops in the land: the Den of Antiques and the Droid Depot. Both of those have extremely high ~20 ft ceilings. So most of that height is used for ceilings, or break rooms. Every other shop is just a stall.

But my question is couldn't they go upward instead of outward in order to enlarge the marketplace if they find its just too small?