Willmark
Well-Known Member
Same.The auction update is stupid to me but I wouldn't ditch the entire ride over one scene.
Auctioning stolen goods, while ransacking the town?
Sounds like “government efficiency.”
Same.The auction update is stupid to me but I wouldn't ditch the entire ride over one scene.
Except this change is just flat out stupid. They are auctioning chickens off to PIRATES and in the next scene with the map and all there are like 8 chickens standing there ready to be taken. Also the execution of this stupid idea is terrible. The voice acting and dialogue are atrocious.I know you’re trying to make a point here, but it seems like you may have overstated a bit.
The reason the story was changed was that society has changed significantly since the ride was created. When it comes to storytelling, the audience is the most important ingredient. A story that connects with one audience will probably need to be retold/reimagined in order to connect with another audience.
Old Westerns used to be “cowboys vs. Indians” affairs. Now, people are much more sensitive to how Native Americans are depicted (and how negative depictions have negatively impacted that community). Now the Old West story is being retold in order to connect with a new audience; heroes and villains are much more complex. Native Americans and White Hats are shown as “good guys” and “bad guys.” This is not trying to change history, it’s telling a better story.
With Pirates, its the same thing. All the changes to the ride make the story make sense to an audience who may not automatically identify with the Plunderers, Interrogator, and Auctioneer (because they themselves have been plundered, interrogated, and auctioned off). When all audiences see themselves in both the heroes and the villains, the story is made better.
No it ruined the story. The story didn't need to be "rich" to be great. PotC was an amazing attraction until they shoehorned in IP to sell merch.Adding in Jack Sparrow seems like it helped imagineers tell a richer story (Jack’s personality, history, and character have been fleshed out over the course of 5 movies now) than they could with characters that have no backstory. I’m not a huge fan of how they added him in, but to me, it seems like a very good opportunity to connect with the audience and tell a richer story that extended beyond the ride.
So if I don't like something I should just shut up and submit? Pathetic!Here's a crazy idea. It may seem RIDICULOUS and so far fetched but I thought I better share it...
Okay, here goes...
If you don't like the ride changes - don't ride it anymore. Rather than starting a tragic forum saying DISNEY SHOULD REMOVE POTC I DONT LIKE IT, just stop going on it. It won't make any difference to you if the ride is there or not if you just don't go on it.
I know - mental, right?
So if I don't like something I should just shut up and submit? Pathetic!
You could argue that it's well lived but I think people only like it because they haven't experienced it pre Jack. All I'm saying is that the new change is terrible. We already have the worse PotC in the world (literally, all the others are wayyyy better). So I think it's time that the busiest theme park on earth gets the best version.I never said once to shut up - I simply said making a post saying an entire ride which is well loved should be shut down because you, one singular person, aren't happy with how much it's changed, is ridiculous.
If you really dislike the changes that much, then don't ride it. It's that simple. No amount of writing on here is going to change anything. WDW is a theme park, which has to constantly evolve and change. It's not a history museum nor does it have to be historically accurate. Not to mention that if things were left the same they would become worn and old. A fresh change brings in new audiences. If you REALLY want Disney to remove an iconic, original ride (which is not going to happen in the near future, not matter how angry YOU are) then it will make no difference to you if you don't ride it anymore.
Hey, it will be almost like it doesn't exist!
If you need the PotC at WDW to be the best in the world, I am afraid you are setting yourself up for disappointment.You could argue that it's well lived but I think people only like it because they haven't experienced it pre Jack. All I'm saying is that the new change is terrible. We already have the worse PotC in the world (literally, all the others are wayyyy better). So I think it's time that the busiest theme park on earth gets the best version.
Of course you don't have to just shut up and submit. You said what you wanted to say and we all heard it, it's just that many do not agree with it. Are we supposed to just shut up and submit or can our opinions be valid as well as yours. The real thing, especially with this thread is the title which basically says... I don't like it, it's time to tear it down.Except this change is just flat out stupid. They are auctioning chickens off to PIRATES and in the next scene with the map and all there are like 8 chickens standing there ready to be taken. Also the execution of this stupid idea is terrible. The voice acting and dialogue are atrocious.
No it ruined the story. The story didn't need to be "rich" to be great. PotC was an amazing attraction until they shoehorned in IP to sell merch.
So if I don't like something I should just shut up and submit? Pathetic!
I sure wish my biggest worry in life was a park ride closing...The degree that people take a simple theme park ride to such extremes is obviously indicative of the 1st world problems that we find ourselves growing ulcers over
You didn't just say the new change is "terrible". The whole point of this thread was for you to demand Disney remove the ride because you don't like it, and now you've noticed that not a lot of people actually don't agree with you or your opinion for Disney to replace PoTC.You could argue that it's well lived but I think people only like it because they haven't experienced it pre Jack. All I'm saying is that the new change is terrible. We already have the worse PotC in the world (literally, all the others are wayyyy better). So I think it's time that the busiest theme park on earth gets the best version.
I'm only opposed to change if it's not done right. And the changes at PotC are terrible and I still think drastic change is needed at MK's.You didn't just say the new change is "terrible". The whole point of this thread was for you to demand Disney remove the ride because you don't like it, and now you've noticed that not a lot of people actually don't agree with you or your opinion for Disney to replace PoTC.
A lot of people I know who have never visited a Disney Park were surprised when I told them that it only just added Jack. You have you remember that most people my age (I'm a millennial) grew up and only know Pirates as Jack Sparrow. No offence, but we are not old enough to remember "the good old days" and frankly don't really care what the ride was like in it's "prime". My biggest issue with these forums is so many people being so opposed to change and so ignorant towards it.
Things change, whether you like it or not. You are one fan who has one opinion that some people agree with, and some people don't. At the end of the day, Disney have spent the money on this scene and they are happy with it, and so are some other fans. No amount of angry thread making is going to change that.
+1I sure wish my biggest worry in life was a park ride closing...![]()
but here's the thing and I'm trying not to be snarky.I'm only opposed to change if it's not done right. And the changes at PotC are terrible and I still think drastic change is needed at MK's.
I never said my opinion is worth more than any other. Just because my view is more extreme and I'm actually willing to say it doesn't mean that I think my opinion is worth more. Also, it's my opinion if a change is done right or not. My criteria is if it does justice to the original. It doesn't. I have no idea what you mean by who am I to decide if it's done right. Everyone has opinions on changes, no?but here's the thing and I'm trying not to be snarky.
Who are you to decide if the change is "done" right?? now I've got to horse in this race because I think it's way overblown but I love the POTC. I enjoyed the Jack sparrow character and I enjoyed seeing him at the end of the ride. My kids recognized him immediately.
So why is one perception worth more than any other?
I never said my opinion is worth more than any other. Just because my view is more extreme and I'm actually willing to say it doesn't mean that I think my opinion is worth more. Also, it's my opinion if a change is done right or not. My criteria is if it does justice to the original. It doesn't. I have no idea what you mean by who am I to decide if it's done right. Everyone has opinions on changes, no?
But the changes are actually quite minor compared to a lot of other rides being updated. They changed one scene and added a couple of Jack Sparrow AAs. The old auction scene was looking a little worse for wear, the AAs were very old and just was not up to date, especially with the new Jack Sparrow AAs. I am sure that eventually most AAs will be replaced in the ride with newer ones.I'm only opposed to change if it's not done right. And the changes at PotC are terrible and I still think drastic change is needed at MK's.
They are new animatronics that are updated compared to the old AAs, no?Did someone seriously just refer to the Jack AAs as being "new" and possibly up to date?I take it that they've never seen the Jack AA in the treasure room before.
Most AAs not made by Garner Holt are recycled. Edit: but of course many are new. I'm not a 100% sure with jackThey are new animatronics that are updated compared to the old AAs, no?
First world problems, for sure... for as long as that term remains applicable.I sure wish my biggest worry in life was a park ride closing...![]()
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