-
The new WDWMAGIC iOS app is here!
Stay up to date with the latest Disney news, photos, and discussions right from your iPhone. The app is free to download and gives you quick access to news articles, forums, photo galleries, park hours, weather and Lightning Lane pricing. Learn More -
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Disneyland Resort Permits
- Thread starter SSG
- Start date
It closed in late 2016 when the Eastern Gateway was plan A
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
Remember one of the ladies in a Fresh Baked video asked if the hotel was where the cars were going to park? *giggle*
Ismael Flores
Well-Known Member
I'm sure it would take a good chunk of money to get it up and going again and an Empty building could be more problems then an empty field when it comes to insurance liablity
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Not to mention owning and operating a 40 year old junky motel like that would do great damage to the Disney brand.
I wonder if they are demolishing it to prevent it from slipping further into decay and attracting vagrants and stray animals? Or if they actually have a plan to use all that property they bought at some expense?
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
FYI, The Pizza Press moved down the street to the Anaheim Hotel at Harbor and Disney Way.
As for the why in Demolition, a couple of reasons. First is the above mentioned goal for removing the structure for safety and security reasons, similar to what government agencies do with properties they get from unpaid taxes.
But it also puts pressure on the city to approve a project to build something new on it, especially from nearby businesses.
As for the why in Demolition, a couple of reasons. First is the above mentioned goal for removing the structure for safety and security reasons, similar to what government agencies do with properties they get from unpaid taxes.
But it also puts pressure on the city to approve a project to build something new on it, especially from nearby businesses.
D
Deleted member 107043
Not if they leased the property to another entity to operate the hotel. Besides, Disney's name wasn't on the Carousel, so there was never any danger of its brand being tarnished.
Exactly what I'm wondering.
What else would Disney do with the property after demolishing the hotel besides the Eastern Gateway? A vehicular passageway to the Pumbaa lot? Is it useful for some other type of development that suits Disney's needs?
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
Due to the size, the only real use long term for Disney would be some sort of connector to the main property.
So a bridge or tunnel.
Short term would be a pathway to the property off Manchester, such as park support.
Whatever they do, the city has to approve it, and will focus on traffic impacts, both vehicles and pedestrians, including CM's.
But Disney could apply for a temporary use permit, such as ground level parking for CM's or guests, so long as shuttles were provided to create the least impact. Such as only Manchester entrances. With CM's, it is much easier to make them use the shuttle instead of crossing Harbor by foot.
Also, Disney could work with OCTA and LA Metro to move the public bus stops off of Harbor to Manchester, and then allow a sidewalk on the Carousel property. This would create a positive impact on Harbor Blvd., and keep the city happy.
FerretAfros
Well-Known Member
Speaking of vacant lots, does anybody know if there are any plans for the old Village Inn site, just south of the Castle Inn & Suites? It's a fairly large site (far bigger than the Carousel Inn) in a prime location that could easily serve theme park and convention center guests
With all the recent and ongoing Resort District redevelopment projects, it's always surprised me that this site has sat vacant since the hotel was demolished in 2000. They even left the monument sign at the front of the lot, with the old hotel's logo plainly visible (though painted over). I have to think that the property owner must be holding out for something that just isn't happening any time soon
With all the recent and ongoing Resort District redevelopment projects, it's always surprised me that this site has sat vacant since the hotel was demolished in 2000. They even left the monument sign at the front of the lot, with the old hotel's logo plainly visible (though painted over). I have to think that the property owner must be holding out for something that just isn't happening any time soon
If the taxes aren't too bad, I'd think that any property on Harbor is worth holding on to in hopes of a big sale at some point.
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
The property would have to meet current standards for setback, parking, and traffic (only entrance is on Harbor). The large cost of designing a project and getting city approval (think Eastern Gateway), to end up with a small Hotel or restaurant doesn't make sense at today's land values.
So, you have 5 property owners that could do something with it, all with adjacent properties, Castle Inn, Kings Inn, Ramada Plaza, Hotel Indigo or America's Best Value. Or the hope of the Anaheim Hotel owners, Wincome to buy both the Castle and the empty property as part of it's 4 star project for the Anaheim Hotel. But they are shifting money around to get the Westin open right now, so until that property starts to make money for cash flow reasons, they are not looking for new properties. (Wincome has been offered purchase opportunities lately, including the Crowne Plaza, and stated they had no interest in purchasing). There is a rumor Wincome might be a serious player for AGW though. They need the November election to go their way, so they are stalling.
http://www.anaheimblog.net/2016/10/19/11519/
The politics are starting, the General Manager of the Desert Palms (non-Union) addressed the city council last night during public comments talking about many of its employees who moved up the ranks (himself included) to get high level jobs and are local residents.
Of course, and Unite HERE union member had to give a snarky comment later in public comments (Martin Lopez).
So, you have 5 property owners that could do something with it, all with adjacent properties, Castle Inn, Kings Inn, Ramada Plaza, Hotel Indigo or America's Best Value. Or the hope of the Anaheim Hotel owners, Wincome to buy both the Castle and the empty property as part of it's 4 star project for the Anaheim Hotel. But they are shifting money around to get the Westin open right now, so until that property starts to make money for cash flow reasons, they are not looking for new properties. (Wincome has been offered purchase opportunities lately, including the Crowne Plaza, and stated they had no interest in purchasing). There is a rumor Wincome might be a serious player for AGW though. They need the November election to go their way, so they are stalling.
http://www.anaheimblog.net/2016/10/19/11519/
The politics are starting, the General Manager of the Desert Palms (non-Union) addressed the city council last night during public comments talking about many of its employees who moved up the ranks (himself included) to get high level jobs and are local residents.
Of course, and Unite HERE union member had to give a snarky comment later in public comments (Martin Lopez).
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
The current tax year was about $72,000.
http://oct.estreamone.com/Show.aspx?parcel=082-271-07&year=2017
Both payments have already been paid, looks like it is owned by Union Investments.
Union Investments USA LLC. its principal is Stephen Hsu. It also owns the Ramada Plaza Anaheim and Hotel Indigo Anaheim,
More on the Pier:
BLD2018-00531 Status: Name: WALT DISNEY WORLD CO Address: 1616 S DISNEYLAND 501 Received Date: 02/08/2018 Parcel: 08219026 CA - Paradise Pier Enhancements - 510A Merchandise Shop - Non Residential Addition: 645 s.ft extend existing merchandise shop. 621 s.ft canopy ()
BLD2018-00531 Status: Name: WALT DISNEY WORLD CO Address: 1616 S DISNEYLAND 501 Received Date: 02/08/2018 Parcel: 08219026 CA - Paradise Pier Enhancements - 510A Merchandise Shop - Non Residential Addition: 645 s.ft extend existing merchandise shop. 621 s.ft canopy ()