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[Deleted member 107043]

If you are looking at good themed roller coasters, look no further than 2 classics, the Matterhorn, and Knott's Calico Mine Ride. (Yes, it is a roller coaster, the train works on gravity and a lift hill. The lift hill is in the middle of the ride. And the load/unload station is at the middle of the hill. Pretty cleaver design by Bud Hurlbut.

But you can even go back earlier in history.

That was my first coaster! I rode it when I was 9. WDW's Space Mountain was my second coaster, which I suppose is why I love Space Mountain so much.

 

[Phroobar]

https://darkbeer.smugmug.com/Theme-Parks/SFMM-Green-Lantern-Official/i-gwpww7L/A

Fun ride

but you need a cup to ride it.

 

[Phroobar]

Character dining with Moana and Stitch?

If it means bring back the fire dancers, I'm all for it.

 

[dweezil78]

I was being sarcastic.

But here is an example of the Green Lantern cutout from a Six Flags park:

Almost all the signage for the Looney Tunes rides are cardboard cutout(ish) like this -- and although you can't tell by the image below, not only are they lame and cheap, they are also super low-res and pixelated when you see them up close!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Almost all the signage for the Looney Tunes rides are cardboard cutout(ish) like this -- and although you can't tell by the image below, not only are they lame and cheap, they are also super low-res and pixelated when you see them up close!!

Let's not forget the disconnect between Elmer Fudd and "weather balloons" and that weather balloon are generally not decorated, nor does one ride in them.

.......

And can we all please agree that when someone says "cardboard cut outs" that they really don't mean "made out of cardboard" but flat, 2D images on a silhouette of wood or plastic or whatever and that you don't have to be that kind of person who pretends they meant it literally so that you can say, "but it's not cardboard!!" and think you're winning the Internet? Thank you.

 

[Curious Constance]

And can we all please agree that when someone says "cardboard cut outs" that they really don't mean "made out of cardboard" but flat, 2D images on a silhouette of wood or plastic or whatever and that you don't have to be that kind of person who pretends they meant it literally so that you can say, "but it's not cardboard!!" and think you're winning the Internet?

No

 

[Disney Irish]

Almost all the signage for the Looney Tunes rides are cardboard cutout(ish) like this -- and although you can't tell by the image below, not only are they lame and cheap, they are also super low-res and pixelated when you see them up close!!

Let's not forget the disconnect between Elmer Fudd and "weather balloons" and that weather balloon are generally not decorated, nor does one ride in them.

.......

And can we all please agree that when someone says "cardboard cut outs" that they really don't mean "made out of cardboard" but flat, 2D images on a silhouette of wood or plastic or whatever and that you don't have to be that kind of person who pretends they meant it literally so that you can say, "but it's not cardboard!!" and think you're winning the Internet? Thank you.

And I think we can all now agree that the Incredicoaster will be much more than these simple cheap cutouts. They will be doing much more and looks so far like they are spending quite a bit of money on this change to the coaster.

 

[Phroobar]

So it's not going to look like this.

 

[Curious Constance]

And I think we can all now agree that the Incredicoaster will be much more than these simple cheap cutouts. They will be doing much more and looks so far like they are spending quite a bit of money on this change to the coaster.

But at what price, Todd. WHAT PRICE?!

 

[Darkbeer1]

I am just thinking about Six Flags and some of the coasters they tried to theme. Good Examples are Terminator, now Apocalypse. Added multiple 3-D props in the outer queue, then a themed inner queue building, with a storyline and video segments taking you from room to room. It was good, especially the first time you rode it. But the fans wanted to ride the coaster and complained about the queue and the time it took on slower days to go through the rooms.

For Batman, they built Gotham City for the land to take you to Gotham City Park for its queue.

Goliath got the large letters and wall, plus the jungle like queue.

Seems like Disney is following Six Flags lead here for Pixar Pier.

And of course, look at the Revenge of the Mummy indoor queue for Universal's version.

 

[TwilightZone]

I am just thinking about Six Flags and some of the coasters they tried to theme. Good Examples are Terminator, now Apocalypse. Added multiple 3-D props in the outer queue, then a themed inner queue building, with a storyline and video segments taking you from room to room. It was good, especially the first time you rode it. But the fans wanted to ride the coaster and complained about the queue and the time it took on slower days to go through the rooms.

For Batman, they built Gotham City for the land to take you to Gotham City Park for its queue.

Goliath got the large letters and wall, plus the jungle like queue.

Seems like Disney is following Six Flags lead here for Pixar Pier.

And of course, look at the Revenge of the Mummy indoor queue for Universal's version.

let's not forget my personal favorite ride (next to twisted colossus) x2's themes: spoopy and twix.
seriously poor theming to that ride never made me get what the story set-up, if any was supposed to be. Hopefully incredicoaster doesn't end up like that.

 

[Darkbeer1]

let's not forget my personal favorite ride (next to twisted colossus) x2's themes: spoopy and twix.
seriously poor theming to that ride never made me get what the story set-up, if any was supposed to be. Hopefully incredicoaster doesn't end up like that.

Well, I never thought that X or X2 were supposed to have a storyline, it was designed to be a state of the art roller coaster, nothing more. Most coaster have a name, and the ride.

If you look at SeaWorld SD, at least with Manta, they had the ride vehicles, and the "show" room before launch. Journey to Atlantis has the elevator, and splash zones. But still the ride is the main focus.

SWSD did a good job with its raft ride, and gives a better story line than Grizzly Rapids.

Same with its simulator rides, Wild Arctic takes you some other than a gift shop.

 

[TwilightZone]

Well, I never thought that X or X2 were supposed to have a storyline, it was designed to be a state of the art roller coaster, nothing more. Most coaster have a name, and the ride.

If you look at SeaWorld SD, at least with Manta, they had the ride vehicles, and the "show" room before launch. Journey to Atlantis has the elevator, and splash zones. But still the ride is the main focus.

SWSD did a good job with its raft ride, and gives a better story line than Grizzly Rapids.

Same with its simulator rides, Wild Arctic takes you some other than a gift shop.

as an uber disney and universal fan, part of me is bothered by "non theming" in 21st century theme parks
for example x2 is in the mexico themed land so part of me wants it to be at least slightly mexico-y.
but whatever, back to topic.

 

[Darkbeer1]

While some folks still call it Baja Ridge, what does it contain? Revolution, Ninja and X2, plus the Chop Six restaurant. SFMM has dropped the themed area concept from its maps.

To me, the area next to Chop Six is the WallyWorld area of the park. Just as I look at the Santa Anita racetrack parking lot as the WallyWorld parking lot. (The original version of the film didn't use SFMM at all. The end was re-written after initial test viewings left viewers with no real ending (Finished at the parking lot). If you watch the film, pay attention to the kids and how puberty had changed them, as it was about a year in-between the first and the new ending of the film.). It was one of the smartest decisions, as many of the memorable scenes were from SFMM filming.

But then, there is always the film, Rollercoaster...

 

[dweezil78]

Seems like Disney is following Six Flags lead here for Pixar Pier.

(Sorry, I realize this is the permit thread and not Pixar Pier!)
They're following Six Flags lead in that the potential to theme these rides since opening day was extremely limited. A non-enclosed roller coaster, carousel, and midway carnival games are never going to be much more than what you get on the surface level. No matter how hard you try to put a storyline into these types of attractions, the on-ride experience will still be virtually the same.

The difference here is that Disney at least has on-ride audio and some on-ride elements to play with for CS/Incredicoaster. Almost all theme/story for Six Flags attractions is contained exclusively within the queue and the on-ride experience is as bare bones as they come.

 

[Darkbeer1]

The difference here is that Disney at least has on-ride audio and some on-ride elements to play with for CS/Incredicoaster. Almost all theme/story for Six Flags attractions is contained exclusively within the queue and the on-ride experience is as bare bones as they come.

Let's see, X2 has on-ride music/sounds and special effects like fire,

Revolution has VR goggles that provide visual and sound.

Full Throttle has the special effects tunnel.

Justice League has a much better queue than Toy Story Mania!, and I prefer the game play for Justice League also.

But then, Roller Coasters are all about the ride and G Forces.

 

[Phroobar]

I agree. Justice League is so much better than any similar thing that Disney has come up with.

 

[Darkbeer1]

And as for Themed Wild Mouse's, like Goofy's Sky School/Mulholland Madness, Disney only needed to look at Kennywood as how to do it right.

 

[dweezil78]

Let's see, X2 has on-ride music/sounds and special effects like fire,

Revolution has VR goggles that provide visual and sound.

Full Throttle has the special effects tunnel.

Justice League has a much better queue than Toy Story Mania!, and I prefer the game play for Justice League also.

But then, Roller Coasters are all about the ride and G Forces.

Fair points... Oddly enough, they choose not to incorporate any IP into the few coasters that actually have more components to make use of though! Instead they reserve that stuff for over-the-top queues and stations with nothing else beyond them.

Justice League is better than Toy Story for sure (not saying much!), but aside from the shooting , feels like a pale imitation of a 18 year old ride at IOA.

 

[Phroobar]

It just goes to show that there are better rides outside the Mouse's domain. It's just difficult to convince the wdw fan boys of that. There is more to the world than a Disney park.