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Songbird76

Songbird76

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donaldtoo said:
Yep, as the parent of a special needs DS, I get most of that. Many times, you just never know what's up with what that particular child might not have control over.
However, (and youngest DD isn't special needs) even though removing her from the store and strapping her into her car seat in our van, obviously, escalated the situation, it only escalated it for her and myself...the rest of the patrons in the store were no longer subjected to it, and nor should they have been.
As I said, it never happened again with her, but, I would have done the same thing again in a heartbeat if it had. And, I would not have hesitated to do the same with our special needs DS or our oldest DD in the same meltdown mode.
It didn't matter to us if it made the situation worse for us, at least it wasn't affecting other people, special needs or not.

As an aside...
When the kiddos got older we aloud them to wander around the store a bit. At one point, a thing DS started trying was approaching us at the register with some item he wanted. The vast majority of the time, the answer was "no".
The first time he did that and got a "no" answer, he just plopped it in some space near the register line. Uhmmm...nope. "Go put it back where you got it from, or I will escort to do so" (and, this was long before I ever worked retail).
That first time I stealthily followed him...
And you can guess the rest...he eventually got it back to where it belonged.
Although he still approached us at the register with similar at times after that, there were no problems with making sure the item got back where it belonged after that.

Also, so very glad to hear your DS seems to finally be getting the help he needs. We're All wired differently, and the whole life thing can be Sillyville (yet, I wouldn't trade mine for abything) to navigate...!
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Oh I would have totally done the same thing in the store you did if it was a meltdown like that. 100%. Thank God I never had to!! Though, as I said, DH did remove DS a few weeks ago from a restaurant. But we usually manage to see it coming and prevent the complete over the top meltdown. We have sticky moments, for sure, and they are embarrassing, but it's never lasted more than a few seconds where a well placed comment about a corner wouldn't suffice, or where we could say "You stop that right now or we're leaving and there will be no more fun things today". At least not in the grocery store. Like I said, the big ones for DS have been more about something feeling wrong and they are usually outside...like, he got upset once and I had to stand at an intersection for 45 minutes until he was ready to look both ways for cars. If the kids didn't look themselves, we didn't cross because I wasn't going to have them reliant on someone else for their safety...they had to learn to be safe on their own. So we just stood there for 45 minutes while he cried. I think he was only 4 then...and eventually we called daddy because he was so mad at ME that he wasn't going to do what I wanted and I was NOT going to give in and lose to a 4 year old. Mommy makes the rules. So we called daddy, he talked to DS, got him calmed down, and then DS looked both ways and we were on our way. I'm a choose your battles kind of mom...but when I choose one, I do not back down. We have never had too big of a problem in public venues because the kids wanted something and we said no. If we did, I don't remember them. My trick in the grocery store was to have them help. "Ok, mommy needs some of that pasta on the bottom shelf there...who wants to get a package for me and put it in the cart?" It normally kept them too occupied to be causing mayhem, and they knew if they threw a fit, it wasn't going to get them what they wanted and then there would be no TV, or dessert, or anything fun for the rest of the day. So that generally wasn't a big issue with us. There were times when they might whine about it, but never the meltdowns. (with the exception of DS, but not because he wants something...it's a panic response for him when something is scary.) We are working on the panic response now, and the anger when something happens that he wasn't expecting. But I know, from an outsider's perspective, they don't know DS...they can't see that he has these issues. It's not something you can tell by looking at him, so if he's having a meltdown, he just looks like a kid throwing a tantrum, and people tend to be really judgmental about that. Either people think I'm being a horrible mean mom because I'm standing at an intersection letting him cry, or they think I'm a lazy mom who doesn't want to punish her kid. Either way, they don't know what's going on, and I don't really care so much about their opinion...I do what works for us and what is healthier for my kid. I have to think about his safety first and not worry about what other people are thinking of ME. It's hard sometimes, as I'm sure you know since people were looking at you as you carried a screaming toddler out of the store like you were kidnapping her. But we have to do what's best for the child and not worry about that judgment because they aren't the ones who are responsible/liable for your kid. You did what was best for you guys, and sometimes there's not a lot of time to think about it...you know your kid and what works and what doesn't. What someone else did may not work with your child...Lord knows that my kids are night and day...what works for one won't work for the other because they are coming from a totally different perspective. We do what works.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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FutureCEO said:
Imagine paying hundreds for a room to see this. Of course, people saying here are going to the casino

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I would rather pay hundreds for this

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I'm a nature guy so id probably go to those Zwiterland or Germany hotels right in the mountain ranges :D
 
MySmallWorldof4

MySmallWorldof4

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Goofyernmost said:
What's primarily happened to parties at home, is that parents no longer know how to say no or don't want to clean up after or want to impress neighbors by spending money to hold a party on location. Perhaps a combination of all three. Social pressure is the strongest of these incentives.
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Yes, whatever happened to pin the tail on the donkey and chips, soda, and cake?:confused:
Cesar R M said:
I wonder, wasnt there like 3 cameras in the live port canaveral cam?and that they rotated and moved? or I'm confusing port canaveral with fort lauderdale's?
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They don't move the Port Canaveral cam much which can be annoying. I wish I had a joystick for it so I could move it where I want it to point. :DI do think that one is just the one camera.
Songbird76 said:
Wow, that's really poor business practice!! They shouldn't be stocking at that time, and if they are, everything should still be accessible! When DH and I lived in the states when we were first married, we worked at Walmart stocking shelves. It was an overnight job...we started at 10:00 pm and got done at 6:00am...that's when the store is the least busy so you are less likely to inconvenience customers, or to create a hazard with boxes, plastic wrapping, debris, and box cutters. I'm surprised Target doesn't do things similarly.
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I sometimes will pick up some grocery items at our Target and I have never seen them close aisles for stocking shelves. Maybe that one where @betty rose goes is just poorly managed.
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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Cesar R M said:
I'm a nature guy so id probably go to those Zwiterland or Germany hotels right in the mountain ranges :D
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I highly recommend Füssen Germany. It's GORGEOUS. And really close to Neuschwanstein Castle. And another castle, which I always get the name mixed up...I THINK it's Hohenschwangau. But it's in a forested area and it's a quaint little town. We stayed in a vacation house right up against the forest. Beautiful.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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MySmallWorldof4 said:
Yes, whatever happened to pin the tail on the donkey and chips, soda, and cake?:confused:
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Unfortunately, that is so last week. We have to dazzle to show our love now.
MySmallWorldof4 said:
I sometimes will pick up some grocery items at our Target and I have never seen them close aisles for stocking shelves. Maybe that one where @betty rose goes is just poorly managed.
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That is a combination of very bad management (or supervision) and help that couldn't care less about anything other then being mad about only making minimum wage. They are contributing to their lack of worth by blocking and preventing sales, but, supervisors should be there making sure that doesn't happen. Sitting in the office, sipping coffee will not make things run properly. However, the workers should be aware of what they are doing as well.

I will give it a pass concerning the time of day because not everything can be delivered to the store at a convenient time so stocking during regular hours is necessary. Stopping people from access is counterproductive and, how can I say this nicely, oh yea... stupid.
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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MySmallWorldof4 said:
Yes, whatever happened to pin the tail on the donkey and chips, soda, and cake?:confused:
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That's what we've always done. I make the cake myself, or we did cupcakes that the kids could decorate themselves. We did games...for DD I drew a massive Cinderella and we played Pin the glass slipper on Cinderella's foot. For DS, It was pin the soccer ball in the goal with Ernie. And over here, a traditional party game is to tie a marshmallow or a piece of this really dense cake/bread to a piece of string, and they had to try and catch it in their mouths. We did bobbing for candy. And usually some sort of craft with DD's....bracelets, or necklaces. The boys usually just wanted to play soccer. Now DD doesn't want an actual party...just wants to hang out and watch movies with her best friend. And we go to a play gym with DS because we can't find kids who want to come to his party. That may change this year, though, now that he is in chess instead of soccer. He fits in so much better in chess and maybe he'll actually have some friends. Parties at home are a lot of work, but they are fun.
 
MySmallWorldof4

MySmallWorldof4

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Songbird76 said:
That's what we've always done. I make the cake myself, or we did cupcakes that the kids could decorate themselves. We did games...for DD I drew a massive Cinderella and we played Pin the glass slipper on Cinderella's foot. For DS, It was pin the soccer ball in the goal with Ernie. And over here, a traditional party game is to tie a marshmallow or a piece of this really dense cake/bread to a piece of string, and they had to try and catch it in their mouths. We did bobbing for candy. And usually some sort of craft with DD's....bracelets, or necklaces. The boys usually just wanted to play soccer. Now DD doesn't want an actual party...just wants to hang out and watch movies with her best friend. And we go to a play gym with DS because we can't find kids who want to come to his party. That may change this year, though, now that he is in chess instead of soccer. He fits in so much better in chess and maybe he'll actually have some friends. Parties at home are a lot of work, but they are fun.
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Every party I ever threw my kids was always at my house. They would play games, eat pizza and cake and ice cream. We have done paint your own pottery where we would go to a paint your own shop, but then would come back to my house for food. Once I did do a gymnastics party for my youngest at the gym my kids attend. But that was only $90 to rent the gym for 2 hours and have 2 coaches do the activities for the kids, like obstacle courses and such. Money well spent.:) My neighbor has spent hundreds at those bouncy house party places. :eek:
 
Figgy1

Figgy1

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MySmallWorldof4 said:
Aside from the coffee, that sounds awesome!! I will take some hot cashew chocolate milk.;) Hmmm, yoga. That is what I need. Had to skip the last 2 days. I need some namaste.
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Yes you do!!!!!!!!!!!!! The rule is if you don't have 10 minutes for meditation you need an hour!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry no cashew milk but I can make hot chocolate with almond or coconut milk. I also have a no tea iced chai(my own spice blend0
 
Figgy1

Figgy1

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MinnieM123 said:
This was like a deja vu moment for me. My parents were the type that never fell for my shenanigans, and pretty much, the only words they said to me were either "no" or "yes"--(usually, no . . .). ;)

I think I was around 5 at the time, and my mother and I were walking through a major department store in the city. Of course I wanted EVERYTHING. :p After her telling me no, about 4 times, I decided I would sort of stealthily grab just a few (smaller) things by my side, when she wasn't looking. I figured that when we got to the register, it was too late to turn back and she'd just buy them for me. :D

As we approached the register, she saw my "stash" and demanded an answer. Went like this:

Mom: What are you hiding?!
Me: (sheepishly . . .) A few nice things.
Mom: Do you have a job, and the money to pay for those?
Me: No, I'm a kid. :hilarious:
Mom: Young lady, you march right back to where you found all these and put them back!!

So we traipsed all over the store (keeping in mind--escalators, elevators--my stealth was multi-floors) and my mom was NOT pleased with me . . . :oops:

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I was so proud of myself the first time i pulled money out of my pocket when my parents asked can you pay for that. I had a set of grandparents within walking distance and they could both cook:joyfull: so I'd show up a couple of nights a week for food and they'd give me a small amount of money every time I did a little chore:joyfull:
 

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