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Where in the World is Bob Saget?

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Goofyernmost

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Nope. Now I like the Muppets. Growing up...er, not so much. It wasn't ever in, and the only film we had was Muppets in Space. Now I've seen more of them, and I like them, but I don't go out of my way for them. Growing up I didn't like Sesame Street either. I hate to say it, but I really don't like Looney Toons. Except for Sylvester and Tweetie. My favorite classic cartoon is Tom and Jerry. See a pattern? Yup. Some things never change.
I'm having trouble figuring out how a cat lover can like Tom and Jerry. That dude get mutilated ever single encounter.

I think it is your age. My DD has no attachment or much exposure to these characters, they faded for a while on children's TV. Looney's were still around for my son and he loved the Muppet Christmas, McDonalds did a fantastic happy meal tiny stuffed toy series of Muppets, Kermit, Piggie etc in Christmas outfits so DS had the exposure.

Me I grew up with Looney's on Saturday morning TV and the early movies of Muppets were much better than these.
Looney Tunes were always the funniest physical cartoons ever done. When the decline happened it was because mommies everywhere got concerned that the degree of violence in the cartoons would have a detrimental affect on the little one. Some felt that it encouraged kids to do things that were dangerous to themselves and others. I was disappointed when they "cleaned" up the toons because it lost all it's humor and fun. I watched them as a kid and never once did it occur to me that I could fall off a cliff like the coyote did and not get killed or that I could have my head crushed by a safe and live to fail another day. It was a classic case of not trusting their kids ability to reason along with over protection of the little dears. I am happy now that they have returned in their original glory.

There's part of an old Sam Kinison stand-up routine that is so apropos to this, but, It is not appropriate to post here.

"THEY'RE STARVING, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE... GIVE THEM A SANDWICH". Then move them out of the desert so they can grow food.
Cleaned up for public consumption.
 

Wrangler-Rick

Just Horsing Around…
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Yeah, this really got out of whack and I am happy to see it being corrected as it has become over the years and especially after the last recession abused. Before I opened my business I was salaried but I got overtime after 40. But if we took more time off than we were entitled to, it came off. Neither really happened much, we'd pretty much comp our own time one way or the other and I worked for a German company which gave everyone 4 weeks vacation from the first anniversary, 2 weeks sick time, 5 personal days so I was hard pressed when I added in my comp days to ever think of having my salary adjusted downward. Plus I had 12 vacation days and if I had to work one, which happened from spring till Thanksgiving some years, I'd get 2 days off to replace the one or double time.
The company I used to work for (salaried) started scheduling training on Saturdays because they "didn't want to interrupt our busy work days". The kicker was when we had a management meeting and an executive VP started yelling at us (managers, directors) and telling us that the expectation was that we were working 60-70 hour weeks and that included weekends. I left to seek employment elsewhere shortly after that. Salary doesn't matter when you have no quality of life. They also used to tell us that if we could go on vacation for 3 weeks in a row, it was proof that they didn't need us....
 
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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I blame the current generation of "BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" as excuse to block anything they dislike. All while they let their children rot by himself/herself alone, going into drugs, illegal activities and watch the most violent tv shows ever.
Then they blame "he was so sweet, he couldn't have done that!" when he goes full postal in some random school after suffering severe bullying and was ignored by their parents.

/endrant

Meh, I loved Gunsmoke when I was small. I'd strap on my western gunbelt and blow away the people on TV right along with them. When I was very small I lived next to my boy cousins. We played army and cowboys and Indians. We off'd each other every day. Can't tell ya how many cartoons I watched that revolved around a bird trying not to be killed by a cat, a coyote being blown up with dynamite. We were raised as my children were raised hands off people and animals. Pretend is fun, fiction is fun and the vast majority of kids know the difference from very young from entertainment and real life. Yes there are deranged but I believe most of these would be deranged with or without videos or TV.

Where I do agree with you is interaction and involvement in real life and family. My kids were in Daycare from young, they were in a quality center and were ontop of their game entering Kindergarten, actually ahead of most. My DD could read a childs chapter book on a 3rd grade level at 4 years old. Their minds were enriched.
But by the time my oldest reached Kindergarten I knew both of us having demanding careers wasn't going to work out best for them. I quit and took a part time position. By the time my DS hit 4th grade I knew I didn't want him or DD to be latch key kids and he balked at babysitters and daycare, he wanted to play sports and with his friends. I quit that position too and launched an in home business and continued with that even in high school while old enough to be alone at home, I was here to make sure they were making good choices.
It is a difficult choice and every family is different as are the kids along with their needs.

One of my golden rules while they were growing up was they had to be committed to something and that rule held through high school, I didn't care if it was band, soccer (ewe) baseball or swimming. They both were competitive swimmers from 7 years old through highschool, year round. Commitment was being taught. At 15 they had to get a job, I needed them to learn responsibility. It was a pain for me as I was a taxi but I needed to teach that responsibility. Their sport opened doors for employment. Both had to be up ontime and attend always. By starting this from young it worked for our family.
 
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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
The company I used to work for (salaried) started scheduling training on Saturdays because they "didn't want to interrupt our busy work days". The kicker was when we had a management meeting and an executive VP started yelling at us (managers, directors) and telling us that the expectation was that we were working 60-70 hour weeks and that included weekends. I left to seek employment elsewhere shortly after that. Salary doesn't matter when you have no quality of life. They also used to tell us that if we could go on vacation for 3 weeks in a row, it was proof that they didn't need us....

Yeah, my DH had an employer like that. He didn't want to work Saturdays, he wanted to be with the kids he brought into the world. Dude was like they want to eat right? It took a few months but he found a different job. But there are some kids that they are better off with the parents both being gone, the types that you wonder why they had kids in the first place. I applaud anyone that really doesn't want children and doesn't give into pressure to have them.

But when the new executive order is implemented by the Dept of Labor there will still be employeers that believe they don't have to abide. With computers and cell phones proof will be in the employees favor, they track everything. All I know is the government is going to have to hire far more people to handle EEOC complaints.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
He is day dreaming of being a professional open water lifeguard........

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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR

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Cause you had a bad day, you're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know, you tell me don't lie
You work on a smile and you go for a ride

You had a bad day, the camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

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Cesar R M

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Cause you had a bad day, you're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know, you tell me don't lie
You work on a smile and you go for a ride

You had a bad day, the camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

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I remember when that song by Powter was very famous and was blaring 24/7 :O
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Here's some extra I have just laying around...
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I made a point to locate the The Big Pink Birds while at Animal Kingdom in April. There is also another little group of them on the safari. They had babies. My DD and I and one other family were the only ones on the safari so I asked the guide when the babies were born, they were so tiny and short little legs. He didn't have a clue. So he radio'd his question. Nobody knew. :cyclops: Awkward and kinda disappointing.

I really liked it when Epcot had the flamingos though, it was shady there at the entrance of the WS and pleasant to stop and just watch them especially at feeding time. I like to think of their ancestors starting at the Original Discovery Island, then Epcot and for the time being Animal Kingdom.

Tomorrow I will post my latest flamingo photo, I found her today.

As promised, I finally found where she was hiding yesterday.

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MinnieM123

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Just a vent from a Cranky Old Lady (COL) - ignore if you want...

As you probably know, I'm one of seven kids. 3 of my brothers live about 30 miles from here, and the fourth lives in FL in the winter, PA in the summer. One sister lives in FL and the other lives about 120 miles away in NH. Mom has been here with us for 6 1/2 weeks now - guess who's the only sibling to visit her? yes, the one sister 120 miles away :mad:.
The first weekend that Mom was here we hosted (better known as "fed") a cookout for them all and mentioned to them all that she really likes to have company, and that at her age she won't be with us for much longer. Apparently they feel that since she doesn't remember anything from one minute to the next, it doesn't matter whether they visit her or not. Therefore in the past 6 weeks, no visits, no phone calls, nothing! She asks about them often, and frankly I'm tired of making excuses for them.

end of rant, now back to our regularly scheduled program...

I sometimes wonder if (part of) the reason why some family members distance themselves, has something to do with it being too emotionally painful, to see their mother going through this. I'm not saying it excuses them from not visiting her (regardless of her state of mind), and also, from not stepping up to the plate, to give you and your husband a break, too. (If they came over, they could visit with her, while you and your husband maybe went out for a few hours to take in a movie, go walk on a beach, or go out to lunch, etc.)

The situation you shared is not uncommon in families. I also wonder if the reasons for those family members least able to cope with it, are: 1.) They think by watching your mother's mental decline, they are seeing the "future" for themselves, and they are scared to death of it; and/or, 2. ) They miss their mother that they knew, and the happy times growing up. This new, (mentally impaired) elderly person is now perceived as a "stranger" in their world; so, they are confused, and cannot identify with her now. Perhaps some of them are trying to work through their feelings. Reaction times for individuals can vary widely.

So I try to look at this from all angles. It's always hard to try and figure out people. Just a thought: maybe the sister who visited could give a call to the brothers, and she could share her observations with them. Perhaps she could gently suggest that it would mean so much to the mother if they stopped by, even for a short visit. It would be great if she could also remind them that you and DH are living with this situation in your home, day and night. Sometimes, when the (exact same) "message" is delivered by another person, people start to "hear" it.
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
I sometimes wonder if (part of) the reason why some family members distance themselves, has something to do with it being too emotionally painful, to see their mother going through this. I'm not saying it excuses them from not visiting her (regardless of her state of mind), and also, from not stepping up to the plate, to give you and your husband a break, too. (If they came over, they could visit with her, while you and your husband maybe went out for a few hours to take in a movie, go walk on a beach, or go out to lunch, etc.)

The situation you shared is not uncommon in families. I also wonder if the reasons for those family members least able to cope with it, are: 1.) They think by watching your mother's mental decline, they are seeing the "future" for themselves, and they are scared to death of it; and/or, 2. ) They miss their mother that they knew, and the happy times growing up. This new, (mentally impaired) elderly person is now perceived as a "stranger" in their world; so, they are confused, and cannot identify with her now. Perhaps some of them are trying to work through their feelings. Reaction times for individuals can vary widely.

So I try to look at this from all angles. It's always hard to try and figure out people. Just a thought: maybe the sister who visited could give a call to the brothers, and she could share her observations with them. Perhaps she could gently suggest that it would mean so much to the mother if they stopped by, even for a short visit. It would be great if she could also remind them that you and DH are living with this situation in your home, day and night. Sometimes, when the (exact same) "message" is delivered by another person, people start to "hear" it.

As always, great advice! The thing is this is the 4th summer we've done this, and each time it's been the same with them. They'll visit if we offer free food (don't even get me started about that!!!). I just don't want to hear any complaints when this is all over.
But on a happier note, our daughter is coming down Tuesday to give DH and I a much needed break. We're going out to lunch and having real food for a change!!!
 
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