New Muppet-Vision Preshow Incoming?

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NDdon

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lazyboy97o said:
I'm not sure how the Muppets, Marvel or Star Wars are fully realized when new stories continue to be written. @Magenta Panther, what your comparison falsely assumes is that the acquired brands and their respective stories will forever remain in some sort of stasis. You reapeatedly present these weird rules that diminish so much and anything no directly handed down that it leaves little to no room for anything new to actually be created or developed. I completely disagree with the notion that ownership makes everything the same, but your arguments for why this should be so just get odd.
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I love this response, sorry for interrupting just wanted to say thank you for posting that.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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But the fact that these entities are already fully developed and established is what attracted Iger to them in the first place. It's easier and less risky to buy a stable full of well-known superheroes than to try to develop your own. Or to buy a franchise like Star Wars than to create your own science-fiction saga. As for "new stories", please. Any "new stories" that are written for those purchases will likely just be more of the same (like that Muppets movie) and will probably not be as good (Lucas himself could not come up with any new characters for his prequels that were anywhere near as good as Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia or Chewie.). And who needs them anyway? There have already been Muppet movies, Star Wars movies, Marvel superhero movies. There are already Marvel-based rides in other amusement parks. Disney used to be unique and create unique things. But that legacy seems to have died under Iger. A pity that some here seem perfectly okay with that. But to each his own.
 
mitchk

mitchk

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HM GhostHostess said:
I guess you could say that Disney and Pixar are connected in some way, since Disney bought Pixar. However, Disney isn't involved in the production of the Pixar films. They let Pixar do their thing and then Disney just distributes the films and makes money off of them.
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True ... I retract my statement! Pixar made wall e .... It's still a rip off of short circuit. Lol
 
mitchk

mitchk

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Turtle said:
How is Wall-E a rip off of Short Circuit besides a robot begins to have emotions (in many movies) as well as the similar design that is in many robots?
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Dude, or whatever .... I'm not going to argue with you on this. The thread is about the Muppets. I already said I retract my statement, and you wanna keep it up? What are you, like 12? Give it a rest.
 
Turtle

Turtle

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mitchk said:
Dude, or whatever .... I'm not going to argue with you on this. The thread is about the Muppets. I already said I retract my statement, and you wanna keep it up? What are you, like 12? Give it a rest.
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I didn't see you retracted it, and no I am not 12 lol... And we were talking about Muppets until somebody brought up Pixar, not me :p
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Magenta Panther said:
But the fact that these entities are already fully developed and established is what attracted Iger to them in the first place. It's easier and less risky to buy a stable full of well-known superheroes than to try to develop your own. Or to buy a franchise like Star Wars than to create your own science-fiction saga. As for "new stories", please. Any "new stories" that are written for those purchases will likely just be more of the same (like that Muppets movie) and will probably not be as good (Lucas himself could not come up with any new characters for his prequels that were anywhere near as good as Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia or Chewie.). And who needs them anyway? There have already been Muppet movies, Star Wars movies, Marvel superhero movies. There are already Marvel-based rides in other amusement parks. Disney used to be unique and create unique things. But that legacy seems to have died under Iger. A pity that some here seem perfectly okay with that. But to each his own.
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If Disney was only interested in the properties then they could have just acquired the intellectual property. Especially in regards to Pixar and Marvel, Disney also desired the people involved.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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I would not want any part of the show to be changed. I really did like the new movie a lot but it doesn't hold a candle to the genius that was Jim Henson and Frank Oz. The only thing I wouldn't mind them doing, is adding more set pieces from the original show to the holding area. But anything with the muppets themselves should stay the same.
 
JeffH

JeffH

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The most recent has to be Johnny 5 ... I mean Wall-E. I really enjoyed the movie, but
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I retract my statement! Pixar made wall e .... It's still a rip off of short circuit.
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Your statements had nothing to do with the discussion in any case (actually since Disney bought Pixar, Pixar basically runs Disney animation and has been involved in many Disney movies as well...like John Carter).
Wall-E and Johnny 5 are nothing alike except they are robots who are self-aware...that's like saying Johnny 5 was a rip-off of the Robot on Lost In Space, or a Lion is a rip-off of an Elephant... ludicrous
and their respective movies couldn't be more different...the fact is Wall-E was one of most original (and entertaining) movies ever made, which could be said about most of the Pixar movies.
-----NEVERTHELESS
The world is very different now than it was back in Walt's day...Disney made stories and characters theirs as nobody else could, there weren't really any established stories/characters to buy. Today, in addition to developing their own (original) stories and characters, Disney also adopts established stories and characters that will fit well (and thrive) as part of the Disney family (a family which includes all of us)...and in most cases, the original owner(s) are (or would have been) overjoyed (like Jim Henson was) to be part of such a wonderful family...a family who will care for, cultivate and love them forever (look at what Disney did for Pooh). There was no Muppets theme park for people to visit, no new Muppets movies; now they have a home and Disney is doing it's best to introduce them to a new generation of fans.
-----COMPLETELY BACK TO THE TOPIC, NOW
Pre-show is epic...don't touch it
Main-show...update to RealD, update ending with 'modern' people, er...and include Darth Vader, Thor, Ironman, within the crowd...maybe have Tinkerbell fly into the theater, land on a pile of bricks then have Thor squash her with his hammer commenting how big the mosquitoes are in Florida;), while an old guy on an ECV mows down half the crowd then has a face off with Vader who 'forces' him out of the ECV and Vader rides off (breathing easier).
And add more Muppet attractions
 
baloofigment14

baloofigment14

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The pre show is just about as good as the 3D show itself. The many Gonzos balancing pots on their heads and Rizzo as Mickey never gets old. No need to change it when people still enjoy the great Muppet humor!
 
pumpkin7

pumpkin7

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If they have to re do any of the Muppets 3D, dear Walt, let them find voice actors that at least sound more like the original actors. The Muppets Movie was good, I enjoyed it... but then I heard the real Kermit and Miss Piggy and oh boy, it's bad.
Splice together dialogue from the shows or something please! Surely by now they have the technology to clone someones voice??
 
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Mrs.Toad

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Not sure how I feel.

Can't imagine going here and not seeing Rizzo try to impersonate Mickey, with a clearly perturbed Sam the Eagle...lol.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Courtesy of Spencer on the WDW Fan Boy facebook page:
"Due to media activity taking place Friday, Feb. 8, Muppet*Vision 3D will experience a delayed opening. It is anticipated to be open to our Guests by 1 p.m., but we will share additional communication should that time be extended"

I would guess this is related to the movie, but it could also be related to the new pre-show prop that @KevinYee mentioned in his recent article.
 

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