AK walk from bus stop to gate - in need of moving walkway?

[The Empress Lilly]

FYI...I'm sure that there are plenty of fat and lazy Europeans out there too. I really don't even want to go there so I'll let that comment slide.

As for the comment regarding the special needs person, I can sympathize. This upcoming trip my MIL will be joining us. Although she is not a special needs person she is older and my wife and I know that she will probably have a hard time keeping up with us. She tends to get winded while shopping at our local mall. What this will translate to when we go to the parks is that she will probably need to stop and rest every few minutes and may even need to do so when she walks from the bus to the front entrance. She doesn't need a wheel chair she just not a spring chicken anymore.

I do believe that Disney takes into account different needs when they build their parks. However, they cannot cater to everyone, if they tried to do so they probably wouldn't have the money to build the parks. I may not be an civil engineer but I do work in the construction industry and have done so for all of my professional career and it would boggle your mind to know what it costs to design and build a home or commercial building for special needs person. Now translate that into an amusement park and there is probably not enough money even Scrooge McDuck's Money Vault to build it.

Again, try and be realistic.

Oi, I used the lazy Americans comment as a buildup to the irony that it should be the Europeans who build themselves a moving sidewalk!

I know how much it costs just to cater one house to special needs. Shockingly much. There is a limit to what a theme park can do, or should do. A Treehouse will always be a treehouse, with climbing. And there will be walking distances involved, transfers to different modes of transportation.
There is no need to expect the impossible. All that we do require - and the same goes for people with three small kids, or the elderly, or the astmathic - is consideration in the design.

Movement within a theme park is fun. Indeed, it is the very point - to wander about, and smell the flowers, see the sights. A long walk up to a park can turn from a 'fun buildup' to a needlessly tiresome exercise if it is too long. And back at the end of the day, tired!


In the most modern park, WDW could've decided to made the walking distance shorter than at the parks build in previous decades, when there was still very little consideration for special needs. Instead, there has been no progress, the distance is amongst the very highest.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

Nope. About the same.

You came in with the notion that the walk from the buses to AK was too long. It would certainly appear to be longer than the others, I have trudged it myself many times, but I know looks can be deceiving so I checked it out. Turns out that 3 of the 4 parks have about the same maximum walking distance. I relayed this information but you did not believe it. I showed you proof but you still do not believe it. My only conclusion can be that you are not interested in the truth and simply want your opinion validated.

Spare me your childish sarcasm, it's neither necessary nor appreciated. It's not about the same. One calculation is nearly 50 feet longer than the other. Good for you, you have your so-called "proof" from your one little computer program. If you choose to believe it, then happy day for you. Pardon me if I'm not in a rush to believe anything you have to offer. I tend not to when people are rude and sarcastic. Apparently your 'truth' and mine differ. My only conclusion here is that you're not mature enough to engage in civil discussion without being sarcastic and rude and simply want to argue.

 

[Master Yoda]

Spare me your childish sarcasm, it's neither necessary nor appreciated. It's not about the same. One calculation is nearly 50 feet longer than the other. Good for you, you have your so-called "proof" from your one little computer program. If you choose to believe it, then happy day for you. Pardon me if I'm not in a rush to believe anything you have to offer. I tend not to when people are rude and sarcastic. Apparently your 'truth' and mine differ. My only conclusion here is that you're not mature enough to engage in civil discussion without being sarcastic and rude and simply want to argue.

My discussion with you has been all but nonexistent. I posted the facts and you apparently took offence to them. My truth relies on math. I can prove it over and over. What does yours rely on?

 

[lazyboy97o]

What does yours rely on?

That you're a meanie.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

My discussion with you has been all but nonexistent. I posted the facts and you apparently took offence to them. My truth relies on math. I can prove it over and over. What does yours rely on?

You posted information you claim are facts. I choose not to accept your claims. You can't prove squat, no matter how many times you claim you can. I take offense to your rudeness, as anyone would.

 

[ScoutN]

My discussion with you has been all but nonexistent. I posted the facts and you apparently took offence to them. My truth relies on math. I can prove it over and over. What does yours rely on?

Math and numbers and truth and facts are all hard items for some to grasp. I came up with just about the same numbers you did by doing it a DIFFERENT way, btw!

 

[Master Yoda]

You posted information you claim are facts. I choose not to accept your claims. You can't prove squat, no matter how many times you claim you can. I take offense to your rudeness, as anyone would.

I am not pulling these numbers out of thin sir. Go to Bing maps and you can do the exact same thing.

 

[wm49rs]

You posted information you claim are facts. I choose not to accept your claims. You can't prove squat, no matter how many times you claim you can. I take offense to your rudeness, as anyone would.

I hope you don't this the wrong way, but disagreeing with someone doesn't necessarily make them rude. All Master Yoda did was point out some figures to you, which appear to be readily available for research. As would be the cost of a moving walkway. Finding "wasted" monies from refurbs however, may be a tad more difficult. As would quantifying the precise number for "plenty of people" who complained about the walking at DAK.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

*Yawn*.....whatever 'facts' and numbers you come up with are irrelevant. I'll go back to the very first post of this thread, which contains the point which still stands: The walk from the bus stop area at AK until you actually enter the park is quite long, seemingly more so when it's quite hot or if it's raining. To add to that, though, I'll mention that for the other parks, typically I'll use boat, monorail, or bus to reach them and those methods aren't nearly as tiresome on the feet.

 

[nolatron]

To add to that, though, I'll mention that for the other parks, typically I'll use boat, monorail, or bus to reach them and those methods aren't nearly as tiresome on the feet.

If you happened to get that last parking spot at the end of the MK parking lot row and decided to take the ferry across the lagoon, your walk from car to inside the turnstile is about 2,185 feet. Twice the distance of the AK bus>Gate walk.

You're complaining about walking an extra 50 feet from a bus yet you're about to spend nearly your entire day walking several miles inside a theme park. I don't see the the issue nor a need to build a moving walkway of any sort.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

I hope you don't this the wrong way, but disagreeing with someone doesn't necessarily make them rude. All Master Yoda did was point out some figures to you, which appear to be readily available for research. As would be the cost of a moving walkway. Finding "wasted" monies from refurbs however, may be a tad more difficult. As would quantifying the precise number for "plenty of people" who complained about the walking at DAK.

No, I understand. However, your tone and his have a distinct difference there. His comes across as blatantly rude, sarcastic, and argumentative. Really, his figures are irrelevant anyway.....yet he keeps pushing it with a rude condescension to it as well.

 

[nolatron]

Really, his figures are irrelevant anyway.....yet he keeps pushing it with a rude condescension to it as well.

Why though? You post that the distance from AK's Bus stop to gate is longer than anywhere else. He showed the distance at all the parks, which indicates that at most it's only about 50' longer.

How is that information irrelevant when it is directly related to your point?

 

[DisneyJunkie]

Why though? You post that the distance from AK's Bus stop to gate is longer than anywhere else. He showed the distance at all the parks, which indicates that at most it's only about 50' longer.

How is that information irrelevant when it is directly related to your point?

I never said "the distance from AK's bus stop to gate is longer than anywhere else". I implied that it could be because it certainly feels that way. But I never made that claim.

 

[nolatron]

I never said "the distance from AK's bus stop to gate is longer than anywhere else". I implied that it could be because it certainly feels that way. But I never made that claim.

Not word for word of course. You said:

Try it again and I'm sure it'll come up with the walking distance at AK being the biggest.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

Which indicates you feel the walking distance at AK from bus to gate is longer than anywhere else.

So basically you're repeating what I just said. I implied it, but never made the statement.

 

[nolatron]

So basically you're repeating what I just said. I implied it, but never made the statement.

Of course you did, right here on page 7. You can say you didn't all you want, but you did.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

Of course you did, right here on page 7. You can say you didn't all you want, but you did.

Apparently you're not paying attention. As I've said - twice now - I made the implication. I didn't categorically state that the walking distance there was greater than everywhere else.

 

[nolatron]

So you "feel" the walk is the longest but you don't believe it actually is the longest?

 

[Tip Top Club]

This thread has gotten ridiculous. Those on the side for the sidewalk are complaining like babies. Those on the side against it are being rude.

Either way, this is not going to happen any time soon.

 

[DisneyJunkie]

So you "feel" the walk is the longest but you don't believe it actually is the longest?

I feel that it could be, yes. Do I believe that it is, I don't know.