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Could the epcot lasers do this?
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plutoismyhero
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that.........would............be...........AWESOME
hpyhnt 1000
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I'm no expert on lasers but I would think that effects such as those would be somewhat difficult to produce over long distances. That show takes place in a controlled, indoor theater environment, not outside across a 40 acre lagoon. They are also (relatively) low powered because of the confined space and the fact that the beams point right into people's eyes.
The current lasers in World Showcase are pretty powerful and can do some pretty neat things, like writing animated messages on SSE half a mile away. The problem is that the show effects are not always visible. There are some great sequences in Chaos and during the 4th of July tag, but they are often lost due to smoke direction, viewing angle, or outdoor light levels.
That being said, I would imagine we'll see another laser upgrade when the next version of IllumiNations comes out.
The current lasers in World Showcase are pretty powerful and can do some pretty neat things, like writing animated messages on SSE half a mile away. The problem is that the show effects are not always visible. There are some great sequences in Chaos and during the 4th of July tag, but they are often lost due to smoke direction, viewing angle, or outdoor light levels.
That being said, I would imagine we'll see another laser upgrade when the next version of IllumiNations comes out.
Not really. Lasers are almost invisible until they hit something like a wall, smoke or fog. In order for this effect to happen they would somehow have to cover WS in fog or smoke.
bgraham34
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That does happen after the grand finale of the firework shows.
Not to the extent shown in the video.
BrerFrog
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Not really; it`s the same for almost any laser. Radiated amplified light and human eyes don`t mix well. ROE uses class IV lasers, the most powerful class, something which in itself isn`t that unusual for entertainment. A Class IV in the worst case scenario can permenantly damage eyesight or burn skin. Hence the multiple safety features used for ROE and other park lasers.That is kind of scary.
That would be neat if they did a show just like that one in innoventions along with the fountain right at dusk. Not to much traffic, no fighting for a spot and no staff to operate the show just install the lasers and the timing and like there is the fountain and the timing. They could hang a laser at the pin station, one by mouse gear and the other by club cool and they have fog trapped in the plaza along with the water and the mist making them visible. Maybe have some water images over the fountain to.
BrerFrog
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Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info, as usual. :wave:
I am surprised that they have no standing point to do that. I bet a sponcer would fully pay it off to. If I am right all they would need to do is have the same timing system as the Fountain of Nations and have it all automatic right? That doesn't go for illuminations.
raven
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Exactly. The viewing angle or "cone" would be rather small limiting the effect to a very small area. Meaning most guests wouldn't get a chance to see it unless they are all crowded in a certain area.
Gringrinngghost
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Here are the Different classes of lasers. As Martin said there Class IV
Class I laser product
No known biological hazard. The light is shielded from any possible viewing by a person and the laser system is interlocked to prevent the laser from being on when exposed. (large laser printers such as the DEC LPS-40 has a 10mW HeNe driving it which is a Class IIIb laser, but the printer is interlocked so as to prevent any contact with the exposed laser beam, hence the device produces no known biological hazard, even though the actual laser is Class IIIb. This would also apply to CD players and small laser printers, as they are Class I devices).
Class II laser products
Power up to 1 milliwatt. These lasers are not considered a optically dangerous device as the eye reflex will prevent any occular damage. (I.E. when the eye is hit with a bright light, the eye lid will automatically blink or the person will turn thier head so as to remove the bright light. This is called the reflex action or time. Class II lasers won't cause eye damage in this time period. Still, one wouldn't want to look at it for an extended period of time.) Caution labels (yellow) should be placed on the laser equipment. No known skin exposure hazard exist and no fire hazard exist.
Class IIIa laser products
Power output between 1 milliwatt and 5 milliwatt. These lasers can produce spot blindness under the right conditions and other possible eye injuries. Products that have a Class IIIa laser should have a laser emission indicator to tell when the laser is in operation. They should also have a Danger label and output aperature label attatched to the laser and/or equipment. A key operated power switch SHOULD be used to prevent unauthorized use. No known skin hazard of fire hazard exist.
Class IIIb laser products
Power output from 5 milliwatts to 500 milliwatts. These lasers are considered a definate eye hazard, particularly at the higher power levels, which WILL cause eye damage. These lasers MUST have a key switch to prevent unathorized use, a laser emission indicator, a 3 to 5 second time delay after power is applied to allow the operator to move away from the beam path and a mechanical shutter to turn the beam off during use. Skin may be burned at the higher levels of power output as well as the flash point of some materials which could catch fire. (I have seen 250mW argons set a piece of red paper on fire in less than 2 seconds exposure time !) A red DANGER label and aperature label MUST be affixed to the laser.
Class IV laser products
Power output >500 milliwatts. These CAN and WILL cause eye damage. The Class IV range CAN and WILL cause materials to burn on contact as well as skin and clothing to burn. These laser systems MUST have:
A key lockout switch to prevent unauthorized use Inter-locks to prevent the system from being used with the protective covers off Emission indicators to show that the laser is in use Mechanical shutters to block the beam Red DANGER labels and aperature labels affixed to the laser
The reflected beam should be considered as dangerous as the primary beam. (again, I have seen a 1,000 watt CO2 laser blast a hole through a piece of steel, so imagine what it would do to your eye !)
Registration of laser systems
Any laser system that has a power output of greater than 5 milliwatts MUST be registered with the FDA and Center for Devices and Radiological Health if it has an exposed beam, such as for entertainment (I.E. Laser light shows) or for medical use (such as surgery) where someone other than the operator may come in contact with it.
Also, The FAA requires the user of any outdoor laser system to obtain advance permission and to contact local airports prior to use.
Class I laser product
No known biological hazard. The light is shielded from any possible viewing by a person and the laser system is interlocked to prevent the laser from being on when exposed. (large laser printers such as the DEC LPS-40 has a 10mW HeNe driving it which is a Class IIIb laser, but the printer is interlocked so as to prevent any contact with the exposed laser beam, hence the device produces no known biological hazard, even though the actual laser is Class IIIb. This would also apply to CD players and small laser printers, as they are Class I devices).
Class II laser products
Power up to 1 milliwatt. These lasers are not considered a optically dangerous device as the eye reflex will prevent any occular damage. (I.E. when the eye is hit with a bright light, the eye lid will automatically blink or the person will turn thier head so as to remove the bright light. This is called the reflex action or time. Class II lasers won't cause eye damage in this time period. Still, one wouldn't want to look at it for an extended period of time.) Caution labels (yellow) should be placed on the laser equipment. No known skin exposure hazard exist and no fire hazard exist.
Class IIIa laser products
Power output between 1 milliwatt and 5 milliwatt. These lasers can produce spot blindness under the right conditions and other possible eye injuries. Products that have a Class IIIa laser should have a laser emission indicator to tell when the laser is in operation. They should also have a Danger label and output aperature label attatched to the laser and/or equipment. A key operated power switch SHOULD be used to prevent unauthorized use. No known skin hazard of fire hazard exist.
Class IIIb laser products
Power output from 5 milliwatts to 500 milliwatts. These lasers are considered a definate eye hazard, particularly at the higher power levels, which WILL cause eye damage. These lasers MUST have a key switch to prevent unathorized use, a laser emission indicator, a 3 to 5 second time delay after power is applied to allow the operator to move away from the beam path and a mechanical shutter to turn the beam off during use. Skin may be burned at the higher levels of power output as well as the flash point of some materials which could catch fire. (I have seen 250mW argons set a piece of red paper on fire in less than 2 seconds exposure time !) A red DANGER label and aperature label MUST be affixed to the laser.
Class IV laser products
Power output >500 milliwatts. These CAN and WILL cause eye damage. The Class IV range CAN and WILL cause materials to burn on contact as well as skin and clothing to burn. These laser systems MUST have:
A key lockout switch to prevent unauthorized use Inter-locks to prevent the system from being used with the protective covers off Emission indicators to show that the laser is in use Mechanical shutters to block the beam Red DANGER labels and aperature labels affixed to the laser
The reflected beam should be considered as dangerous as the primary beam. (again, I have seen a 1,000 watt CO2 laser blast a hole through a piece of steel, so imagine what it would do to your eye !)
Registration of laser systems
Any laser system that has a power output of greater than 5 milliwatts MUST be registered with the FDA and Center for Devices and Radiological Health if it has an exposed beam, such as for entertainment (I.E. Laser light shows) or for medical use (such as surgery) where someone other than the operator may come in contact with it.
Also, The FAA requires the user of any outdoor laser system to obtain advance permission and to contact local airports prior to use.