Here's my question: is what is there currently enough to sustain the land? Pirates of the Caribbean is obviously a huge attraction, and then we have the Jungle Cruise, the Tiki Room, and the Treehouse if the Carpets are removed. I feel that as far as must-see rides in the park go, Adventureland is the one land that seems very lacking right now...
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Adventureland... Where to go from here?
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lilmizpixie3
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I think its about time to get rid of the tree house, I mean once you've seen it theres no need to go again. It doesn't even have anything that interesting in it. I think the idea of the tiki nice sit down restaurant is a good idea!
I agree about the treehouse being old. I do acknowledge that not every ride has to be an E-ticket, but I think that the treehouse is rarely visitted and takes up some valuable real estate. Tom Sawyer Island is the place for climbing and playing around, and I think the same effects as the treehouse could be achieved there. I would say take out the Treehouse and the Carpets in favor of something BIG and new: An Aladdin E-Ticket. I'd have to see aerial views of Adventureland to check out exactly how much space there is...
tinkerblonde11
Well-Known Member
Well, I think they should take out the Aladdin ride... thats just another Dumbo... but maybe they could convert the treehouse into a Swiss Family Robinson Restaurant. It may be a good idea for the people who still like it anddont want it taken away.
Dizknee_Phreek
Well-Known Member
Well, if you think about it, the reason why Pirates is such a huge attraction now is because of the pirate craze going on. It was a big attraction before, but I had seen the lines majorly die down before the first Pirates movie came out. I think JC, TR, and the Treehouse would stand a chance if they would just make some updates and ADVERTISE these attractions as the great attractions they are (and whether you (in general) like them or not, they ARE great attractions)...I think that's one downfall of Disney these days is that they don't advertise some of their lesser known attractions enough.
But I have to disagree that Adventureland is the land that's most lacking. I would have to say that Liberty Square is the land most lacking. HM is its big attraction...then it has The Hall of Presidents (does anyone go in there anymore, really?), and the Riverboat. Does that mean it needs another e-ticket? No...but I do believe Adventureland has more to do (even without the Carpets) than Liberty Square.
I would probably have to agree that Liberty Square is extremely lacking right now. But I think Adventureland also has its own huge issues that it needs to work out. The Tiki Room and the Treehouse, I just don't see them as being the awesome attractions that they once were anymore. UNM is oine of the worst attractions in the park, and the Treehouse, although it has nostalgia and is pretty cool, doesn't offer the hype that this land needs. Pirates is a good ride, but not as good as the California version. Jungle Cruise is a great ride, but we have Animal Kingdom right up the way. I think Pirates is just about all Adventureland has going for it as far as "must-do" attractions in the Magic Kingdom. Everything else is able to be sacrificed on my WDW vacations. I think a new Aladdin Magic Carpet indoor ride, featuring technology similar to Spiderman at IOA and on the scale of California's Indy, would add a uniqueness factor and revitalize the land.
Epcot82Guy
Well-Known Member
Actually, this all poses a very interesting idea. I agree that those carpets are an eyesore and a bottleneck, but they do have heavy ridership. So, here's my pitch.
I like the idea of Tortuga, but not in the Verandah. So, let's box up some of our little birdie and Tiki friends and ship them over to the Verandah with an updated facade. Opening as the Enchanted Tiki Verandah (or something along those lines). We keep the show sort of perpetually rolling in this quick service stand.
Then, having freed up the space with El Pirata, Tiki, and perhaps the Sushine Terrace, rework the area behind Aladdin with transitional architecture, a lot of plants, and rockwork, into the backside of the Tortuga Inn. This would make Aladdin have a cave feeling behind it, tying in more, and it would make for a nice transition to teh cave feeling of the Pirates attractions. Have the entrance to Tortuga sit where Pirata's entrance is, and have it be the sit down show they are planning BUT, next to Pirates. That would subdivide the land a bit better with the Polynesian/village area up front. The Jungle area off to the south side (of course, with a nice JC rehab), and the Pirates/Caribbean area off back.
Ah... the joys of an infinite budget! :drevil:
I like the idea of Tortuga, but not in the Verandah. So, let's box up some of our little birdie and Tiki friends and ship them over to the Verandah with an updated facade. Opening as the Enchanted Tiki Verandah (or something along those lines). We keep the show sort of perpetually rolling in this quick service stand.
Then, having freed up the space with El Pirata, Tiki, and perhaps the Sushine Terrace, rework the area behind Aladdin with transitional architecture, a lot of plants, and rockwork, into the backside of the Tortuga Inn. This would make Aladdin have a cave feeling behind it, tying in more, and it would make for a nice transition to teh cave feeling of the Pirates attractions. Have the entrance to Tortuga sit where Pirata's entrance is, and have it be the sit down show they are planning BUT, next to Pirates. That would subdivide the land a bit better with the Polynesian/village area up front. The Jungle area off to the south side (of course, with a nice JC rehab), and the Pirates/Caribbean area off back.
Ah... the joys of an infinite budget! :drevil:
I like the idea, but how much space would be needed for Tortuga? is it just a sit-down restaurant themed to pirates? With the Verandah open up front, is another sit-down in Adventureland necessary? I looooooove the idea of giving the Carpets some architectural and thematic backing, but I just don't like the Carpets at all. Heavy ridership or not, they clog a land and are not an original ride. and to be honest, its not tremendously heavy ridership. I've never seen the line longer than 20 minutes, and that's with a pretty mediocre capacity during busy season.
I like moving the Tiki Birds up front, but I think we might be pirating the land out. Pirates is popular, but it shouldn't take over the land. To leave Aladdin to anchor an Agrabah section of Adventureland, then the Jungle Cruise, and to leave the rest of Adventureland open to pirates seems a bit much to me.
I like moving the Tiki Birds up front, but I think we might be pirating the land out. Pirates is popular, but it shouldn't take over the land. To leave Aladdin to anchor an Agrabah section of Adventureland, then the Jungle Cruise, and to leave the rest of Adventureland open to pirates seems a bit much to me.
Dizknee_Phreek
Well-Known Member
I do agree that Adventureland needs some work. There's no doubt about that. I think you're right that Tiki Room and the Treehouse aren't currently as awesome as they once were...which is why they need updating...whatever that would include - lighting, new scenes, ANYthing at this point. Any kind of attention would draw people to it. The thing is, Adventureland has a LOT in it considering how much space it has. It's probably the most cramped land (well, besides Fantasyland). The attractions just need some much deserved refurbs and attention. And I think it's unfair to compare JC to AK...the only thing they have in common is that they both contain animals....and they really don't even have that, seeing as one has real animals and the other AA animals. AK is there to provide education, whereas JC is there to provide humor - that is its only function, basically. Now I do think that JC needs some major updates and more excitement, perhaps. It would be interesting to start a thread just on that to see what kind of new scenes/AAs people could come up with. I think if they paid attention to the classic attractions (and yes, take away UNM and bring an updated Tiki Room to life without the cartoon birds) Adventureland could be restored to its former glory.
WEDisney
Active Member
Congratulations, I spent my honeymoon there 11 years ago ACK!! :zipit: has it been that long?
To an extent, I think this is correct. But I also think that some attractions also need replacements. The Jungle Cruise and Pirates are classics, and cannot be lost; however, I don't consider Swiss Family Robinson and The Magic Carpets of Aladdin irreplaceable. I think right now Adventureland is just a little behind, and doesn't have too much new to boast. I think switching up a classic (The Tiki Room) to a restaurant would offer some refreshing change, while maintaining Walt's original intent. I also believe that the Treehouse and the Carpets can go in favor of a new E-ticket for Aladdin. Perhaps the treehouse could remain. If the Tiki Room is moved up in the land to a Verandah setting, then a little real estate can be freed up around El Piratica, the Tiki Room, and the Carpets... but how much?
fyn
Member
Keep it simple
- Remove the eyesore and traffic jam that is Alladin. You want Agrabah? Fine. Replace it with a tent covered middle eastern style quick service restaurant connected to the existing building facades.
- Make El Pirata Y El Perico a sit down restaurant, with a "Tortuga" style bar area upstairs.
- Reinvent the Tiki room.
- Remove the eyesore and traffic jam that is Alladin. You want Agrabah? Fine. Replace it with a tent covered middle eastern style quick service restaurant connected to the existing building facades.
- Make El Pirata Y El Perico a sit down restaurant, with a "Tortuga" style bar area upstairs.
- Reinvent the Tiki room.
I think a quick service tent style restaurant would be even more of an eyesore. If you're going to Agrabah in a land that already has jungles, tikis, and pirates, I think you need to do Agrabah right. I think Aladdin deserves a place in Adventureland, but I think it will take a lot of money to get an attraction that does the movie and the land justice.
Lee
Adventurer
That was the original concept for the Tiki Room. They decided against it, and went with this instead. WDW could certainly use it in the Veranda space.
http://www.yesterland.com/tahitianterrace.html
Too cool not to have, in my opinion.
I like the Tahitian Terrace, but I think it might be a bit too similar to the Polynesian's luau just a monorail ride away. I think a Tiki Room restaurant would be possible with the advanced technology we have and would open up the space int he middle of Adventureland
brusoe
Member
this is true still though it cant compare I like your pic lol I remember seeing its a small world in dl for the first time last month and was like HOLY CRAP that thing is huge! I would have swore but im not allowed to swear in DisneyWe have the San Angel Inn
Dizknee_Phreek
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Sorry, didn't mean to include the Carpets in my "classics" comment. They most definitely are not classics...I hate the Carpets, hate the Agrabah theme...hate everything about it. They need to abandon the Aladdin theme, imo. It's too much like Morocco, which we already have in Epcot. I believe Adventureland would be perfectly fine without Aladdin. I just don't think Aladdin is popular enough, really, to have his own themed area...I could be wrong, but that's just my thought. Not to mention, I just don't think he fits in that area well enough...it just chops Adventureland up too much. If they HAVE to have a cartoon character/movie theme somewhere in there, why not something like Jungle Book? I think they tried Tarzan at DL and it wasn't very popular or something....but that would also be an option. Something that ties in with the tropical/jungle feel that's apparent in all the already existing themes (pre-Agrabah). Does that make any sense?
I, personally, am against them changing Tiki Room so drastically as to make it a restaurant. I do think something needs to be done to it to make it popular again, but I don't think that's the right thing to do.
As for moving it to the Verandah space to free up some space...true, you would get the area with Tiki Room and Carpets, but that would not free up El Piratica because there is a backstage/castmemeber gate between Tiki Room and El Piratica. It is where Capt. Jack currently enters from and exits to.
I would disagree. Disney's Animal Kingdom has the jungle/Africa/Asia theme covered. I think the place for Tarzan and the Jungle Book characters is in this park. Although the Jungle Cruise is unique in its AAs and humor, I think that theming the rest of Adventureland back to a jugnle is a mistake. Aladdin was a Disney classic, and I believe that the characters are strong enough to support an area. It's a boy's counterpart to Fantasyland's princesses. I think retheming the eastern area of Adventureland to Agrabah is brilliant and blends well with the current tropical theme. but I can't STAND those carpets.
How essential is this gate? Is it possible that this area could be reworked if a new ride were to encompass the area? It seems weird to suggest a small character gate can't be relocated or remodelled so that a major addition can't come to Adventureland.