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Tix Question....

Billy6

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
For those of you still up, I got a question... Got a 7day hopper with one day left, and no expo. Going in one week and only want to have a total of three days...Do I have to get a whole new ticket of 2 days or can I upgrade my 7day to a 9day, and just pay the difference...

Class, Discuss!!!!!!
 

Champion

New Member
For those of you still up, I got a question... Got a 7day hopper with one day left, and no expo. Going in one week and only want to have a total of three days...Do I have to get a whole new ticket of 2 days or can I upgrade my 7day to a 9day, and just pay the difference...

Class, Discuss!!!!!!

You can only upgrade your ticket within 14? days of first use.
 

CleveRocks

Active Member
For those of you still up, I got a question... Got a 7day hopper with one day left, and no expo. Going in one week and only want to have a total of three days...Do I have to get a whole new ticket of 2 days or can I upgrade my 7day to a 9day, and just pay the difference...

Class, Discuss!!!!!!
Ouch. You stepped into one of the pitfalls of buying the no-expiration option. If you need to buy any additional days for a future trip, then it's NEVER a good idea to buy the NE feature.

By today's prices, your 7-day NE hopper cost you $364.50. To buy an additional 2-day hopper for this trip is $188.51, for a total expense of $553.01.

If you'd bought a 6-day EXPIRING hopper last time, it would have cost $269.45. And then buying a 3-day hopper for this trip would be $252.41, for a ttoal expense of $521.86.

Buying the no-expiration option last time was about $31 MORE EXPENSIVE than if you'd bought regular expiring tickets last time AND this time.

Before you go and do the same thing again, do the math first.:) But as a short-cut, just remember that if you'll need to buy additional days of admission on a future trip (to add on to the left-over non-expiring days from this trip), then just don't go to the expense of the NE feature because it's just not worth it.

GOOD LUCK!
 

Hummer1676

New Member
Ouch. You stepped into one of the pitfalls of buying the no-expiration option. If you need to buy any additional days for a future trip, then it's NEVER a good idea to buy the NE feature.

By today's prices, your 7-day NE hopper cost you $364.50. To buy an additional 2-day hopper for this trip is $188.51, for a total expense of $553.01.

If you'd bought a 6-day EXPIRING hopper last time, it would have cost $269.45. And then buying a 3-day hopper for this trip would be $252.41, for a ttoal expense of $521.86.

Buying the no-expiration option last time was about $31 MORE EXPENSIVE than if you'd bought regular expiring tickets last time AND this time.

Before you go and do the same thing again, do the math first.:) But as a short-cut, just remember that if you'll need to buy additional days of admission on a future trip (to add on to the left-over non-expiring days from this trip), then just don't go to the expense of the NE feature because it's just not worth it.

GOOD LUCK!


With those those types of exspenses you might as well buy an annual pass.
 

HS0411

Member
For those of you still up, I got a question... Got a 7day hopper with one day left, and no expo. Going in one week and only want to have a total of three days...Do I have to get a whole new ticket of 2 days or can I upgrade my 7day to a 9day, and just pay the difference...

Class, Discuss!!!!!!

As a former resort front desk host and pesdo-concierge (sp?), you can upgrade the tickets at either your resort or guest relations. You will pay the differnce in what you upgrade to. For example if you wanted to add three more days to it, you would be sold the 10-day ticket and then charged the differnce between the 7-day and 10-day ticket. It will look like a mess on your bill, but it's pretty cheep

For the record, if you ever have any days left, purchase the no expo option. It may cost you more money in the beginning, but you will save money when you go back.

Hope this helps!
 

smk

Well-Known Member
Now I am confused! One post said don't buy NE tickets, it doesn't pay, and the other said it was the best option. What am I missing? I'll admit to being a fuzzy math type, but this time I think I am totally mis-reading and mis-understanding things!
If the ticket wasn't upgraded within the 14 day window can it still be upgraded? If you add on days to a NE ticket are those days also NE?
 

Billy6

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Just spoke with a disney travel planner, and she said I only have to pay the difference between the seven day ticket and which ever amount I want(8,9,10)....:p :shrug:
 

HS0411

Member
When you get the no expo option the 14 day window doesn't matter. You can upgrade tickets 1o years from now and Disney will honor them. All extra days will have to no expo option on them.

As for it being a good deal vs. bad deal, most people only come once a year (or less). Chances are ticket prices will increase before you get a chance to go again. That's why I belive in the no expo option for guests. I rather see you locked in at a cheeper ticket than what you would have to pay to start over.
 

CleveRocks

Active Member
When you get the no expo option the 14 day window doesn't matter. You can upgrade tickets 1o years from now and Disney will honor them. All extra days will have to no expo option on them.
This is completely untrue. Please check your facts.

The no-expiration option costs more and more depending on how many days the ticket is good for. For example, adding the no-expiration option to a 2-day ticket costs only $10.65. Adding NE to a 10-day ticket costs $165.08. So by what you are saying, you can come back at any time and all the extra days I add in an upgrade will have the NE feature on them, too? Then what dunces we all are ... let's save about $150 and buy 2-day NE tickets and then add on to them later!!! But it just doesn't work that way.



As for it being a good deal vs. bad deal, most people only come once a year (or less). Chances are ticket prices will increase before you get a chance to go again. That's why I belive in the no expo option for guests. I rather see you locked in at a cheeper ticket than what you would have to pay to start over.
Again, I repectfully disagree, very strongly.


Let's say someone goes once a year and goes to the parks for 7 days each time.

YOUR ADVICE: Buy the 10-day NE now, and for the next trip there will be 3 days left over. On the next trip, buy a 4-day pass so they have 7 days to use.
THE PRICE OF YOUR ADVICE: 10-day NE is $395.12, and 4-day base ticket is $215.13. TOTAL PRICE: $610.25

MY ADVICE: 7-day base ticket for this trip, and a 7-day base ticket purchased next year at the time of the next trip. Each 7-day ticket is $223.85. TOTAL PRICE: $447.70

So which price do you like better ... $610.25 following the NE option ... or $447.70 following the buy the tickets sepsrately for each trip option?

No fuzzy math here! [Unless you can't tell that spending $610.25 on the above unnecessarily wastes $162.55]

As I said earlier, the NE option is ONLY a good idea if the original number of days bought on the original NE ticket can FULLY provide you with the number of park days you want for two or more vacations. If you have to buy additional days in the future, it's ALWAYS a bad deal.

AND ALSO: There is no such thing as a ticket that can be upgraded past 10 days. In other words, if you buy a 10-day ticket and use 7 days, you have 3 days left. You CAN'T subsequently add a few more days to THAT ticket, because tickets can never exceed 10 days no matter what. FACT.
 

smk

Well-Known Member


No fuzzy math here! [Unless you can't tell that spending $610.25 on the above unnecessarily wastes $162.55]

Thanks, I think I get it now!
 

sbkline

Well-Known Member
As I said earlier, the NE option is ONLY a good idea if the original number of days bought on the original NE ticket can FULLY provide you with the number of park days you want for two or more vacations. If you have to buy additional days in the future, it's ALWAYS a bad deal.

The possible exception to that would be in my case where I purchased a 10 day with NE and used 5 days of it. So next year, we have a 5 day pass to use for our trip. However, I also want the dining plan, so I am going to have to purchase a one day pass in order to qualify for the dining plan. I believe I still come out money ahead in this case.

A 5 day parkhopper without NE is $246. Assumming that prices stay the same and it is still $246 next year, then that makes two 5 day parkhoppers without NE come to a total of of $492 dollars, or $49.20 a day.

A 10 day parkhopper WITH NE is $409, or 40.90 a day. Add the price of a one day ticket without parkhopping, which is $67, and you get a total of $476. So, just figuring the tickets, you only save $16, but it is still a savings, nonetheless. However, if you consider that you are only purchasing the one day ticket so you can get the dining plan and then consider the savings by using the DDP, then it comes out to an even better deal.

Or, you could forget the DDP, and not purchase that extra one day ticket and just eat counter service all week, which would save you alot of money as well.
 

CleveRocks

Active Member
The possible exception to that would be in my case where I purchased a 10 day with NE and used 5 days of it. So next year, we have a 5 day pass to use for our trip. However, I also want the dining plan, so I am going to have to purchase a one day pass in order to qualify for the dining plan. I believe I still come out money ahead in this case.
Yes, of course you're correct in that case.

BUT, you are buying the 1-day ticket in order to get a whole bunch of food for free, and surely you will eat more than $70 worth of food in 5 days! You're not buying the 1-day admission for the sole reason of going to a park one more day.

For those who don't follow, it's a little complicated but I'll try ....

Disney offered the Disney Dining Plan for FREE for people traveling on certain dates in August and September. One requirement for getting the DDP for free is booking a package (NOT a room-only reservation). A package means room AND park tickets. The least expensive park ticket you can buy is a 1-day ticket. By buying the 1-day ticket as part of a package, sbkline qualified for the free DDP. As I said above, buying a $70 ticket is well worth getting free food for every day of his/her hotel stay.
 

sbkline

Well-Known Member
Yes, of course you're correct in that case.

BUT, you are buying the 1-day ticket in order to get a whole bunch of food for free, and surely you will eat more than $70 worth of food in 5 days! You're not buying the 1-day admission for the sole reason of going to a park one more day.

For those who don't follow, it's a little complicated but I'll try ....

Disney offered the Disney Dining Plan for FREE for people traveling on certain dates in August and September. One requirement for getting the DDP for free is booking a package (NOT a room-only reservation). A package means room AND park tickets. The least expensive park ticket you can buy is a 1-day ticket. By buying the 1-day ticket as part of a package, sbkline qualified for the free DDP. As I said above, buying a $70 ticket is well worth getting free food for every day of his/her hotel stay.

Actually, I'm not talking about the Free Dining plan. If we go next year, it will be in April, or possibly March, so we will be paying for the DDP. But even so, we still come out money ahead (even if it's just a small savings) by purchasing the 10 day parkhopper with NE and carrying over 5 days for next year, and then buying a ticket in order to qualify to purchase the dining plan.

As I said, the difference between purchasing a 10 day NE, along with a one day pass as opposed to two seperate 5 day parkhoppers without NE is only 16 dollars. But it's still a savings, even if a very miniscule one. Of course, that's assumming that next year's prices stay the same as this year, which they probably won't. So if prices go up, I'm saving even more than $16.00 per person.

But even though my food isn't FREE, as I'm having to purchase the dining plan, IMO 70 dollars in order to eat at an expensive table service restaraunt every night for only 40 bucks (along with a counter service and snack) is worth is, as opposed to having to settle for eating at burger joints the whole trip, or forking out mega bucks if I want to eat at table service all 7 nights out of pocket.

Of course, it would be even nicer if I found out that I have it all wrong and that I don't even need to buy a one day ticket in order to purchase the dining plan...if I found out that purchasing a ticket is only required in order to get the FREE dining plan. But I'm pretty sure that I've been told on more than one occassion that you have to buy at least a one day ticket even to purchase the regular dining plan.
 

sbkline

Well-Known Member
But it seems that you are still basically correct in your assessment of the NE option. At first, I thought I was making a heck of a savings in purchasing the 10 day with NE and only using 6 days of it this trip, as we originally planned. I thought it an even better deal when we ended up only using 5 days. However, I then realized that if I wanted to do the dining plan again, I would have to purchase a one day ticket in order to do so. So what would have been a pretty huge savings (83 dollars per person) in carrying over the other 5 days until next year, in reality ends up only being a savings of 16 dollars per person, because we have to fork out 67 dollars of that 83 dollar savings just to get the dining plan. So again, a savings, but a very small one.

And I guess that's why Disney offers it. Yes, it is a good deal if you know how to sit down and do the math on it and make it work to your advantage, as you have said. But most people don't do that, and end up paying more in the long run.
 

CleveRocks

Active Member
Your assumption is correct ... to be eligible for the DDP whether it's free or not, you must book a package. A package, by definition, includes park tickets, so buying a 1-day ticket is the cheapest way to become eligible for the DDP.
 

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