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recording water rides and other attractions

disneyworld07

Active Member
Original Poster
Hi guys,
I know this may sound a bit silly, but i dont have a clue...anyway so, do you need a special waterproof camcorder to record water rides at disney (while riding them) and to record shamu when in the splash zone at Sea World?? I am under the impression that a normal camera would suffer some severe damage?? The kids on the new YOAMD planning dvd seem to have ordinary camcorders which they take on to splash mountain and film it no problem??

If a special cam is needed could anyone give me a brand name or any other info???

Many many thanks everyone!

Looking forward to your responses!
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
Generally, electronics don't function well when wet.

That said, it's a matter of how much water the camera is exposed to and how much 'gets inside'. It's possible to successfully shoot a water ride without damaging a non-waterproof camera. Would I risk it? No.

There are waterproof cases made to fit most cameras if you search a bit. Actual waterproof cameras are expensive.
 

ag2000

New Member
like any electronic device a few splashes of water wont normally cause any effects. If it is drenched or submerged its 99% chance it will be ruined. Personally I wouldn't risk damaging or ruining my camcorder.
 

MiceysBestPal

New Member
Splash Mountain is not really all that WET.

I have shot with a standard camcorder and aside from just being CAREFUL (and needing to wipe the lens clear of droplets after the big plunge) there was no problem (I said I was CAREFUL).

Catastrophe Canyon on the Backlot Tour is the same... lots of droplets but not actually WET.

Sitting close to the front in Fantasmic! if the wind is blowing IN can be pretty damp as well, but not too much to worry over.

BUT...
I would not take a video camera (without an underwater housing) on Kali River Rapids... that attraction can be DRENCHING, 'falling-in-the-pool' kind of wet. It can mean an end to the camera (and some soppy underwear) for its riders.

Those are the wettest attractions at the 4 WDW theme-parks.
 

MiceysBestPal

New Member
I once read a post about a man who was on the rafts heading to Tom Sawyer's Island.

He was holding his camcorder (shoulder-size VHS back then) and he got jostled and dropped the camera into the 'river.'

Without hesitation (or time for a CM to react) the man JUMPED IN the river to save his camera.

And he GOT IT (I suppose it might take a few seconds for such a large plastic housing to fill and sink.)

He lumbered back onto the raft (CM was distressed at this point, of course) and the man "checked" his camera by turning it on (!)

The red light came up and he said something like, "Hey, its WORKING!"
and then the light went OUT and as far as the poster who told this story knew, (and I concur, under the circumstances) the camera (or the red light) never came on again.

I can't verify the story, but with all the high-dollar video cameras (many used to cost $1200 or so) and the variety of "less-than-wise" guests in the parks, I'm sure it could have happened... and maybe more than once!
 
I once read a post about a man who was on the rafts heading to Tom Sawyer's Island.

He was holding his camcorder (shoulder-size VHS back then) and he got jostled and dropped the camera into the 'river.'

Without hesitation (or time for a CM to react) the man JUMPED IN the river to save his camera.

And he GOT IT (I suppose it might take a few seconds for such a large plastic housing to fill and sink.)

He lumbered back onto the raft (CM was distressed at this point, of course) and the man "checked" his camera by turning it on (!)

The red light came up and he said something like, "Hey, its WORKING!"
and then the light went OUT and as far as the poster who told this story knew, (and I concur, under the circumstances) the camera (or the red light) never came on again.

I can't verify the story, but with all the high-dollar video cameras (many used to cost $1200 or so) and the variety of "less-than-wise" guests in the parks, I'm sure it could have happened... and maybe more than once!

well if the story's true the guys first big mistake other then jumping into crocy waters was turning it on right after it went in the drink. if you have it off and can get it dried out fast enough and not have a shock go thru the system 60 % of the time its savable if it hasn't been in the water but a split second. I learned this at school electricity and water don't mix well, course they do make some great affects when put together but after a few seconds your body will be no good anymore and the effects are over.:lol::sohappy:
 
well if the story's true the guys first big mistake other then jumping into crocy waters was turning it on right after it went in the drink. if you have it off and can get it dried out fast enough and not have a shock go thru the system 60 % of the time its savable if it hasn't been in the water but a split second. I learned this at school electricity and water don't mix well, course they do make some great affects when put together but after a few seconds your body will be no good anymore and the effects are over.:lol::sohappy:

Actually you have two options if you drop one in the drink... First get it out as soon as possible and remove the battery. Second remove any film or digital chip or tape. If its a chip it will be alright one it dries out. If its tape or film its a crap shoot. Just make sure the tape is dry (completely before you try and view it).

Now if the water wasn't that dirty dry it out with a blow drier on a low setting. If the water was horribley nasty you need to rinse the camera or camcorder out with clean water, actually distilled water works best. Once it is cleaned out you can then dry it completely and when it is absolutely dry try to turn it on.

If it works great, but remember, cameras and camcorders weren't met to be underwater, the most likely result assuming it turns back on will be rusting of some of the gears, shutter mechanism and len leafs. It might survive one dive but don't expect it to work perfectly.
 

Mansion Butler

Active Member
Hi guys,
I know this may sound a bit silly, but i dont have a clue...anyway so, do you need a special waterproof camcorder to record water rides at disney (while riding them) and to record shamu when in the splash zone at Sea World?? I am under the impression that a normal camera would suffer some severe damage?? The kids on the new YOAMD planning dvd seem to have ordinary camcorders which they take on to splash mountain and film it no problem??

If a special cam is needed could anyone give me a brand name or any other info???

Many many thanks everyone!

Looking forward to your responses!

I and my family have recorded many times with many different cameras on Splash Mountain just fine. The only ride at Disney I would worry about is Kali River Rapids, and it's not an interesting enough ride to record anyway.
 

monorailguy01

New Member
I Record all types of rides in Disney. I have a really small sony handy cam that fits in a zip lock bag, so when I know I am going to get wet I put the camera in the bag. Like for example the drop on splash mountain. I never filmed KRR Im to afraid I will lose my camera when a wave of water his the boat. But if you do not have a water proof camera I would try the bag It works great. I just would not trust it in the water parks.
 

bsandersjr

Active Member
I once read a post about a man who was on the rafts heading to Tom Sawyer's Island.

He was holding his camcorder (shoulder-size VHS back then) and he got jostled and dropped the camera into the 'river.'

Without hesitation (or time for a CM to react) the man JUMPED IN the river to save his camera.

And he GOT IT (I suppose it might take a few seconds for such a large plastic housing to fill and sink.)

He lumbered back onto the raft (CM was distressed at this point, of course) and the man "checked" his camera by turning it on (!)

The red light came up and he said something like, "Hey, its WORKING!"
and then the light went OUT and as far as the poster who told this story knew, (and I concur, under the circumstances) the camera (or the red light) never came on again.

I can't verify the story, but with all the high-dollar video cameras (many used to cost $1200 or so) and the variety of "less-than-wise" guests in the parks, I'm sure it could have happened... and maybe more than once!

sorry, but that story is hillarious! :lol: :lol: :lol: :sohappy: :sohappy:
 

barnum42

New Member
I once read a post about a man who was on the rafts heading to Tom Sawyer's Island.

He was holding his camcorder (shoulder-size VHS back then) and he got jostled and dropped the camera into the 'river.'

Without hesitation (or time for a CM to react) the man JUMPED IN the river to save his camera.

And he GOT IT (I suppose it might take a few seconds for such a large plastic housing to fill and sink.)

He lumbered back onto the raft (CM was distressed at this point, of course) and the man "checked" his camera by turning it on (!)

The red light came up and he said something like, "Hey, its WORKING!"
and then the light went OUT and as far as the poster who told this story knew, (and I concur, under the circumstances) the camera (or the red light) never came on again.

I can't verify the story, but with all the high-dollar video cameras (many used to cost $1200 or so) and the variety of "less-than-wise" guests in the parks, I'm sure it could have happened... and maybe more than once!
I used to work for a UK retailer, in the day when camcorders cost that much. I sold one chap the model that was on display in the window that he was going to use at a wedding. Before packing it up I let him have a good look so he could see it was unused and in new condition.

The following week he came in demanding a refund, claiming I'd sold him one with a hole in the side :eek:

Knowing that he'd used it at a wedding and had probably imbibed a quantity of alcohol I refused to accept his story or his threats about me to the manager for selling him damaged goods. Eventually we wore him down to confessing that he'd accidentally smacked it against a brick wall. :brick:
 

WDWRLD

Active Member
I carry my camera and use it quite alot at Disney. After riding the rides you will learn where the chances of getting wet are. My planning for this is like this. Mk...not a issue, quickly hold camera under seat in front of me on splash mountain when I come to the big drop and also when I go through the briar patch just before the lift hill. MGM...mist on Castrophy Canyon only causes camera lense to get dirty and spotted and needing a cleaning. Epcot....watch out for the water fountain outside of honey i shrunk the audience. AK....a ziplock bag will do for KRR although you wont be able to film it all. However if you ride it once you will find all the places you could get wet and inbetween you could pull it out for a quick shot. BB & TL....I use a small Pellican Case to keep camera in and keep it dry. The case can be submerged for short periods with no leaking. Then you can carry it throughout the day with you. The biggest moisture problem I have is the condensation on and in the camera when I take it out of the room. To solve this keep the camera wrapped in a towell and place it beside the warm tv.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Realize that you can get drenched even on Splash, and it doesn't even necessarily happen on the main drop--the most drenched I tend to get is rounding the turn leading up to the 2nd lift hill. The jets of water don't always hit you but when I visited this past summer, they seemed to be nailing every boat. I've had some rides on Splash where I only got a few drips of water, and others where I have been sopping wet. I wouldn't risk it if it were my camera...and Kali...no question there. Talk about drenched!
 

dolbyman

Well-Known Member
I use a simple plastic bag for my videos .. just tape it around the case and leave the lens free (a srew on uv filter will protect the inner lens from water) ... and as I use external mics, covering the internal cam mic is no problem

and the drop of SplashMountain is a pretty risky drop for a camera .. the fine splashs could easly reach into the fine openings of mic or speakers ... and shortcircuting any system in your camera might ruin it ...
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
I used to work for a UK retailer, in the day when camcorders cost that much. I sold one chap the model that was on display in the window that he was going to use at a wedding. Before packing it up I let him have a good look so he could see it was unused and in new condition.

The following week he came in demanding a refund, claiming I'd sold him one with a hole in the side :eek:

Knowing that he'd used it at a wedding and had probably imbibed a quantity of alcohol I refused to accept his story or his threats about me to the manager for selling him damaged goods. Eventually we wore him down to confessing that he'd accidentally smacked it against a brick wall. :brick:

Eh, if we're gonna share funny camcorder/retail job stories. :D ...

I used to work for an electronics chain called Silo (long gone now, at least in this part of the country), back when camcorders had the following tape formats

VHS, which you could just pop in a VCR and watch...
VHS-C, which required an adapter that looked like a VHS tape, but you popped it in the adapter, popped the adapter in the VCR and it played like a regular tape...

8MM and Hi8MM, which looked far better than VHS or VHS-C, but required you to plug the camcorder into a VCR or TV's inputs to watch (or buy an 8MM VCR, which were rare and expensive).

And this was at a time when camcorders were rarely less than 500, and those were bare-bones, point-and-shoot, a little zoom focus piece of medicority. Getting features that are now pretty much standard would jack the price up to at least an 800-dollar range.

So, a guy came into Silo's and had to have the best camcorder in the joint, nothing else would do. Didn't want a sales shpiel, didn't have time, just wanted the best camcorder, a whole lot of tapes, tripod, case, extended warranty, just give it to me and give it to me now, he had to go go go.

So we sold him a Hi8 camcorder, extra battery & plenty of tapes. The sales rep who finalized the sale, having a bad couple of weeks anyway, finally had a decent commission (great commission, actually). Goodbye, Prince Macaroni & Cheese, Hel-LO Kraft kind of commission.

Aaaaaand a few weeks later, the guy came back into the store demanding a full refund on the camcorder, battery, tripod and bag. It never worked! The pictures looked like garbage! He was threatening to sue us for "ruining his vacation memories!"

At this point, we knew what the deal was, he essentially "borrowed" the camcorder for the vacation, and now that he was home, he didn't need or want this 1200-dollar camcorder. We also noticed that he didnt return ANY of the tapes, but hey the return policy was 30-days, no questions asked. The unit was in OK condition, and he had all the packaging It totally screwed up his sales rep (who also essentially had to "return" his commission), but store policy was story policy. We gave him his money back and he left...

And then came in an hour later, looking to buy the "adapter" for the tapes. You know, the tapes that he already knew looked like crap. The tapes that would remind him how much the P.O.S. 1200-dollar camcorder we sold him ruined his vacation memories. He wanted to watch him.

The wheel of justice turns slowly, but it turns.

We told him there was no such "adapter" to allow someone to play Hi8MM tapes in a VHS VCR. Different tape formats, apples and oranges. You have to plug the camcorder, which he returned, into the VCR to watch the tapes. He started complaining that nobody told him this when he bought the damn thing, we reminded him that he was adamant that he didn't want a tape shpiel, he just wanted the best camcorder in the store, no questions asked. Had we been allowed to talk to him, we could've told him this. Besides, why did it matter? The camcorder was crap, right? The tapes were awful anyway, right? Why would you want to watch such awful tapes? :lol:

Knowing he was caught trying to scam us, and that had absolutely no leg to stand on in the argument, he started getting redder and redder, filled withembarrassment. We then let him off the hook, and, off the record, agreed to copy his tapes for him. It would only cost him the price of the VHS tapes...AND the commission his sales rep lost when he returned the camcorder and accessories. He balked a little, especially when we showed him how much money the sales rep lost through his attempted duplicity. But I promised him, with the sheer volume of tapes he used on that awful AWFUL camcorder, our price was comparable to what a "dub house" would charge to make copies of the tapes, but he was free to shop around, it's not like we weren't sick of looking at him. He agreed, the sales rep could make his car payment that month and we all had a good laugh at this Doo Schnozzle's expense.

Sorry for rambling, but the one story reminded me of the other.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
I've recorded at Fantasmic without a cover on the camcorder; I've recorded Splash Mountain with a plastic bag surrounding the camcorder (only to 'hide' the camera in a rucksack as we descended the final drop). No problems on either ride.

I've sat in the Splash Zone to watch Shamu Rocks America only to get very wet. Luckily it was at the end of the show and we returned back to the room immediately and dried the insides with a hairdryer (luckily the camera still works to this day).

Specialist camera shops will sell waterproof housings (custom made by the manufacturer to fit the camcorder and keep it dry when submerged) they are expensive. Alternatively you can buy what I would best describe as a raincoat for it - a general multi fit plastic cover which should be splash proof
 

GenerationX

Well-Known Member
I've taken my videocamera on several water rides and one dry ride that became a water ride. For the water rides, I put a plastic ziploc bag over my hand, camera, and forearm. Kept the camera dry, even on Kali. However, the water droplets on the plastic bag interfered with the focus.

I was crazy enough to take my videocamera when my middle son and I went parasailing. The rope got stuck when they were reeling us in, and we slowly descended into the water. Thanks to how gradually they were able to bring us down and thanks to our lifevests, I was able to hold my hand high enough to keep the camera dry. Still works fine. And I got some great footage of my son and I discussing whether or not we were actually going into the water. We were both surprisingly calm about the whole situation, and we were rescued very quickly from the warm water by the Disney Coast Guard.
 

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