Avengers Campus: E-Watch! (Waiting on the new ride)

[DrStarlander]

A family in my neighborhood just got back from Tokyo and the entire family of five had to hold their eyes closed through Pan as otherwise they would have been nauseated, they said. They're experienced park travelers (WDW, DLR, DLP, SDR, UOR, USH). That's discouraging for me.

 

[Disney Irish]

A family in my neighborhood just got back from Tokyo and the entire family of five had to hold their eyes closed through Pan as otherwise they would have been nauseated, they said. They're experienced park travelers (WDW, DLR, DLP, SDR, UOR, USH). That's discouraging for me.

I wouldn't be discouraged by that, everyone experiences motion sickness differently. I get motion sickness on ST or MF but I don't on other motion simulators or even trackless rides. Everyone is different. Also we don't know what specifically caused their nauseating experience, ie if it was the ride itself, screens being out of sync, or something else like something they ate prior to riding.

 

[D.Silentu]

They also said you could feel the difference between floating on water and flying and that the transition was pure magic.

Other reviews have mentioned this as well and I have heard more than one comparison to Flight Of Passage, here and elsewhere. I shared a shrug with everyone when the ride vehicle appeared to be a clone of Transformers, but all of the reviews of Tokyo's Pan have fostered my enthusiasm for this attraction.

 

[mickEblu]

I shared a shrug with everyone when the ride vehicle appeared to be a clone of Transformers, but all of the reviews of Tokyo's Pan have fostered my enthusiasm for this attraction.

Same here. I’d also imagine that Avengers will have greater scope/ scale than Pan being the lands headliner and considering the IP. I’m not as pumped up as Drew but I think there is potential for it be a solid attraction.

I’d like to compare the size of the show buildings on Google Earth.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

Having first-hand experience with Pan in Tokyo, I'll tell you it is the best attraction in Fantasy Springs by a mile. The motion sickness wasn't a problem for me, and everyone in my crew (consisting of people who care very little about Disney parks) were thrilled by the attraction.

Personally having that experience, I'm more thrilled by the fact that this ride is based on Pan's system than the IP. Don't really care for the latter.

 

[WaluigiTime]

I haven’t, but two of my friends just got back from Tokyo and said Pan was their favorite Fantasy Springs Ride. They said it was Disney doing a more immersive and smoother version of a universal ride. Plus the setwork mixed with projections and some moving props really brings everything together. Again second hand, but they really liked it. The comparison is there but WDI is just operating at a different level and the graphics are from Disney Animation. They also said you could feel the difference between floating on water and flying and that the transition was pure magic.

I have been on Spider-man and Transformers and this is all true. It feels as if they put the Indiana Jones Adventure / Dinosaur ride vehicle on it.

 

[MistaDee]

Having first-hand experience with Pan in Tokyo, I'll tell you it is the best attraction in Fantasy Springs by a mile. The motion sickness wasn't a problem for me, and everyone in my crew (consisting of people who care very little about Disney parks) were thrilled by the attraction.

Personally having that experience, I'm more thrilled by the fact that this ride is based on Pan's system than the IP. Don't really care for the latter.

I have been on Spider-man and Transformers and this is all true. It feels as if they put the Indiana Jones Adventure / Dinosaur ride vehicle on it.

For those who have done both Spidey/Transformers as well as Pan - could you break down some of the major differences?

Blending the sets, projections and moving props all seem like things we've seen done pretty well by Uni, even if mixing in the animatronics/effects is more in the Potter rides than the top 2.

 

[BrianLo]

I haven’t, but two of my friends just got back from Tokyo and said Pan was their favorite Fantasy Springs Ride. They said it was Disney doing a more immersive and smoother version of a universal ride. Plus the setwork mixed with projections and some moving props really brings everything together. Again second hand, but they really liked it. The comparison is there but WDI is just operating at a different level and the graphics are from Disney Animation. They also said you could feel the difference between floating on water and flying and that the transition was pure magic.

@Disney Analyst and I also share this opinion and it’s not because Frozen is bad, Pan is just unexpectedly good.

For those who have done both Spidey/Transformers as well as Pan - could you break down some of the major differences?

Facetiously - it’s the Pixie Dust.

Simply: it’s why do people harp on many of Universals Motion simulators when Flight of Passage somehow has become transcendent? It is the highest rated attraction at WDW and it’s “just” a simulator. There’s just something about their execution and pacing that Universal Creative has never captured.

Pan has a frantic adventure, takes a breath, then takes you on an emotional sweeping journey, says goodbye, then says nope unexpectedly and gives you another kiss goodnight.

I rather like Spiderman and Transformers. Until this recent worldwide 2016+ bolus I don’t think it would have been an unpopular opinion if someone’s favourite attraction in the world was Spiderman. Pan just reminds us it was always a good platform.

 

[BrianLo]

I’m enormously skeptical that this “first of its kind at the resort” will do anything we haven’t already seen from universal

Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong, but this video feels like sunshine pumping from someone who felt special they got invited on a tour

Not to harp on Drew who very kindly answered my question about this. I do want to continue to leave open the possibility he got ahead of himself. No one else reporting on it worsens the veracity as well.

A “first of its kind for Disneyland Resort” or a “Prototype” while calling Rise a Prototype or a 2.0 version of Pan are all not how he previously framed the comment and appear to be a walk back that it was a new ride platform than Pan entirely. The comment Tom made I think he non maliciously conflated.

I’m still hopeful it’s good and if it’s “just” another Spiderman from Scott Trowbridge that is hardly bad.

 

[MistaDee]

@Disney Analyst and I also share this opinion and it’s not because Frozen is bad, Pan is just unexpectedly good.



Facetiously - it’s the Pixie Dust.

Simply: it’s why do people harp on many of Universals Motion simulators when Flight of Passage somehow has become transcendent? It is the highest rated attraction at WDW and it’s “just” a simulator. There’s just something about their execution and pacing that Universal Creative has never captured.

Pan has a frantic adventure, takes a breath, then takes you on an emotional sweeping journey, says goodbye, then says nope unexpectedly and gives you another kiss goodnight.

I rather like Spiderman and Transformers. Until this recent worldwide 2016+ bolus I don’t think it would have been an unpopular opinion if someone’s favourite attraction in the world was Spiderman. Pan just reminds us it was always a good platform.

Not to harp on Drew who very kindly answered my question about this. I do want to continue to leave open the possibility he got ahead of himself. No one else reporting on it worsens the veracity as well.

A “first of its kind for Disneyland Resort” or a “Prototype” while calling Rise a Prototype or a 2.0 version of Pan are all not how he previously framed the comment and appear to be a walk back that it was a new ride platform than Pan entirely. The comment Tom made I think he non maliciously conflated.

I’m still hopeful it’s good and if it’s “just” another Spiderman from Scott Trowbridge that is hardly bad.

Appreciate the insights from your first hand experience. I’m definitely expecting a Peter Pan/Spidey style platform done on a larger scale befitting the Avengers IP and bestowed with all the “pixie dust WDI can muster.

Hopefully that includes creative flourishes like we saw with all the creative utilization of pre shows on Rise. Also agree with those who feel at least a few animatronics, Thanos and Iron Man in particular, would go a long way towards making the experience feel like a true “E+ ticket” capable of anchoring a land, and not just a D+ like I perceive Pan to be (lmk if that’s a bad take). I’ll also caveat that for 3D rides that rely on screen-based suspension of disbelief, animatronics might make more sense at the very beginning or end, so as to not interrupt the illusion.

But the talk about first of its kind or a prototype definitely seems like a bit of an overstatement based on what we know so far. I’d love to be wrong though and see something truly new

 

[BrianLo]

and not just a D+ like I perceive Pan to be (lmk if that’s a bad take).

It’s an E ticket, I would very much die on that hill!

Unless one really does not consider Universals Spiderman to be an E ticket. But that depends on one’s bias, no one would call Tokyo’s Frozen Journey a D ticket (because it has animatronics) and like I said I prefer Pan a hair.

Will it be a worldwide park defining signature akin to Rise, Radiator Springs Racers, Shanghai Pirates or Kilimanjaro Safari’s? No.

That said, I do very much anticipate Avengers will do what you think. A bit more practicality and sets than Pan offers. Ironically, I’m not certain that means I’ll personally prefer it. It depends on how they execute.

 

[Distorian]

I expect this ride to be well received by the theme park community only to end up being viewed as outdated in 10-15 years. In many ways I feel that’s what’s happened to the Harry Potter ride at Universal.

 

[Disney Vault]

this did not need a ribbon cutting ceremony

 

[DrStarlander]

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Did you see the photo of the team that planned the ribbon cutting ceremony?

 

[MistaDee]

It’s an E ticket, I would very much die on that hill!

Unless one really does not consider Universals Spiderman to be an E ticket. But that depends on one’s bias, no one would call Tokyo’s Frozen Journey a D ticket (because it has animatronics) and like I said I prefer Pan a hair.

Will it be a worldwide park defining signature akin to Rise, Radiator Springs Racers, Shanghai Pirates or Kilimanjaro Safari’s? No.

That said, I do very much anticipate Avengers will do what you think. A bit more practicality and sets than Pan offers. Ironically, I’m not certain that means I’ll personally prefer it. It depends on how they execute.

Really awesome insights - thank you! I will absolutely defer to your classification of Pan as an E ticket, and imagine if Infinity Defense has a grander scale and a longer ride time there will be no question about that ride.

Do you think that platform has the opportunity to deliver something that would rise to the level of a resort defining “F/Super E+ ticket” like RSR? Excited by the possibilities

 

[Disney Irish]

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If it doesn't get a ribbon cutting ceremony is it even worth doing?

 

[DrStarlander]

I could be wrong but I have this feeling Rolly Crump would have gotten that thing done with the help of like one or two other people, and one of them just to hold the ladder.

 

[Disney Irish]

I could be wrong but I have this feeling Rolly Crump would have gotten that thing done with the help of like one or two other people, and one of them just to hold the ladder.
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Union rules, you need at least 3 people to hold the ladder, 2 to supervise, and 1 to manage the project. So a minimum of 7 people.

 

[DL-fan]

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This is AI right, tell me this wasn’t real

 

[Disney Vault]

This is AI right, tell me this wasn’t real

Definitely real. I recognize some of the people