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New Tomorrowland @ Disneyland? Is this the year it finally gets announced? No, and that’s OK

britain

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Have you all seen the recently released concept art for star wars taking over Tomorrowland? Not sure which links are allowed but it is at laughing place.

I think this version of Tomorrowland looks great. It doesn't even scream star wars and I feel like they could still go this direction one day.
I saw it and thought it was very interesting.

They are from a collection of art by Lucasfilm artist Doug Chang. Very prequel-y

It seemed more like "Tomorrowland as if it was on Courasant" than a Star Wars land because it still had to accommodate Buzz Lightyear and Space Mountain. It did have a LOT of elevated landing pads for recognizable vehicles which kinda sorta ended up in Galaxy's Edge. But this concept art feels more like a "Spaceship Hall of Fame" than a working port.

I think I can find the images on X.
 

britain

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Phroobar

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I was watching a vid on how Disney Adults are ruining the parks. Everything has to be an ip character to please this group. Looking at the cute characters only is a superficial way of experiencing the parks. Walt used to make experiences to counter balance the childrens need to see Mickey Mouse with adult environments like Pirates or Mansion. Now even those attractions need ips. Buzz Lightyear Mountain or Stitch Mountain would have been a terrible idea. Even a Star Wars Tomorrowland would seem dated eventually. An original tomorrowland sci fi spaceport with no existing IP would have been best.
 

PiratesMansion

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I was watching a vid on how Disney Adults are ruining the parks. Everything has to be an ip character to please this group. Looking at the cute characters only is a superficial way of experiencing the parks. Walt used to make experiences to counter balance the childrens need to see Mickey Mouse with adult environments like Pirates or Mansion. Now even those attractions need ips. Buzz Lightyear Mountain or Stitch Mountain would have been a terrible idea. Even a Star Wars Tomorrowland would seem dated eventually. An original tomorrowland sci fi spaceport with no existing IP would have been best.
There is no way that Disney Adults are solely responsible for the IP invasion.

You don't think little kids aren't going to say, when asked, that they want a Frozen ride or a Coco ride a Spider-Man ride or whatever over something they can't easily picture like Geyser Mountain?

Not to mention that the leaders and shakers long ago decided that this was the only direction the parks could go and have pivoted them in that direction very intentionally for twenty plus years.

Just because you mostly see youngish people hyping up the parks on Instagram and YouTube doesn't mean they're the ones to blame.

Frankly, if we're going to blame Disney Adults for anything, it's probably the growing number of bars-though since post-Millenial generations are apparently drinking much less alcohol than generations before them, perhaps only to a point.
 

Phroobar

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There is no way that Disney Adults are solely responsible for the IP invasion.

You don't think little kids aren't going to say, when asked, that they want a Frozen ride or a Coco ride a Spider-Man ride or whatever over something they can't easily picture like Geyser Mountain?

Not to mention that the leaders and shakers long ago decided that this was the only direction the parks could go and have pivoted them in that direction very intentionally for twenty plus years.

Just because you mostly see youngish people hyping up the parks on Instagram and YouTube doesn't mean they're the ones to blame.

Frankly, if we're going to blame Disney Adults for anything, it's probably the growing number of bars-though since post-Millenial generations are apparently drinking much less alcohol than generations before them, perhaps only to a point.
Disney corporate found that Disney Adults will buy up branded stuff. In order to keep them in the park, they build more ip attractions to sell more ip merch. It's a superficial way of attending the parks. Well at least that is what I got from the vid.

The obsession on bars is weird because post millennial generations drink less.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Disney corporate found that Disney Adults will buy up branded stuff. In order to keep them in the park, they build more ip attractions to sell more ip merch. It's a superficial way of attending the parks. Well at least that is what I got from the vid.
Interesting theory and I can see how they came to that conclusion, in my circle of Disney friends we buy a ton of Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Stitch, Grumpy, Chip and Dale, etc, etc, etc merchandise. We buy very little of the new IP merch though, Frozen, Pandora, Guardians, etc is not likely to end up in any of our carts. IF Disney has concluded they need more IP in the parks my guess is it’s to appeal to the younger generations, older Disney adults already have tons of IP we love and buy, maybe they’re hoping with new IPs in the parks they can recreate that demand with the younger crowd.

The new Carsland, Encanto, Monsters, etc seem to be targeting young Disney adults (30 somethings) and kids more than the older Disney adults who already have tons of merchandise options in the parks.
 

PiratesMansion

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Disney corporate found that Disney Adults will buy up branded stuff. In order to keep them in the park, they build more ip attractions to sell more ip merch. It's a superficial way of attending the parks. Well at least that is what I got from the vid.
Of course adults are buying branded stuff, there aren't exactly tons of children walking into Disneyland of their own accord spending their own money on this stuff. They require adults to buy stuff for them.

I have no doubt there are plenty of adults buying things like that for themselves, but there's not really a way to separate those people from those buying from their kids, so it doesn't exactly strike me as a profound insight.
 

DLR92

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My thoughts on Tomorrowland.
Majority of the structure/buildings are beyond dated. Space Mountain and Astro Orbiter are the only pleasing aesthetics of the land. Disneys should tear down 90% of the land from scratch. Tomorrowland train station should be an enclosed majestic structure. The berm from behind Tomorrowland train station look like tree life is lacking/overtrimmed. Or beyond stressed. I can see parts of Harbor Blvd. Perhaps doesn’t need that section of that berm. And ultize that space.

Autopia and the Submarine should be axed out. And retire Buzz Lightyear and StarTours.
Space Mountain should have updated facelift like akin to Tokyo Disneyland is receiving of a new Space Mountain. And Disney should DO something with the Innovations building. It just being wasted as a hang out for Magic Key Holders to spend on overpriced food.

It probably best to remove the Peoplemover/Rocket Rods track if these will never return back in any new contemporary form.

I liked the previous concept art of Lucasport structure. I think a modern take would be ideal for land aesthetics.
 
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CaptinEO

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I was watching a vid on how Disney Adults are ruining the parks. Everything has to be an ip character to please this group. Looking at the cute characters only is a superficial way of experiencing the parks. Walt used to make experiences to counter balance the childrens need to see Mickey Mouse with adult environments like Pirates or Mansion. Now even those attractions need ips. Buzz Lightyear Mountain or Stitch Mountain would have been a terrible idea. Even a Star Wars Tomorrowland would seem dated eventually. An original tomorrowland sci fi spaceport with no existing IP would have been best.
This is the direction Eisner and then his successor started going in post California Adventure opening in 2001. It started with throwing properties all over Disney World like Stitch and Nemo rethemes and has not stopped.

There are adults that fully grew up in this era too. Also some people do just want to see their favorite recognizable characters and don't care about anything else.

That being said at least in the US parks the Walt Disney Company has not made non character based attractions in 20 years now and doesn't even try to see how an original concept would go over.
 
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Phroobar

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My thoughts on Tomorrowland.
Majority of the structure/buildings are beyond dated. Space Mountain and Astro Orbiter are the only pleasing aesthetics of the land. Disneys should tear down 90% of the land from scratch. Tomorrowland train station should be an enclosed majestic structure. The berm from behind Tomorrowland train station look like tree life is lacking/overtrimmed. Or beyond stressed. I can see parts of Harbor Blvd. Perhaps doesn’t need that section of that berm. And ultize that space.

Autopia and the Submarine should be axed out. And retire Buzz Lightyear and StarTours.
Space Mountain should have updated facelift like akin to Tokyo Disneyland is receiving of a new Space Mountain. And Disney should DO something with the Innovations building. It just being wasted as a hang out for Magic Key Holders to spend on overpriced food.

It probably best to remove the Peoplemover/Rocket Rods track if these will never return back in any new contemporary form.

I liked the previous concept art of Lucasport structure. I think a modern take would be ideal for land aesthetics.
Your saying nuke the pace from orbit and start over with a new modern Space Mountain and some other stuff. I can get behind that. I always thought that a mini future world would work but a sci-fi fantasyland might be cool. Problem is there are no successful IPs for Disney to use. I don't want an Alien/Predator land and Disney doesn't do creative non ip lands anymore. Too bad they are sticking Avatar in DCA. That would have been a great replacement for the Autopia/Lagoon.
 

britain

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Looks like a kid bought a tommorowland playset and threw his star wars toys on top of it. As a fan of Doug's have to say this is surprisingly uninspired but maybe this concept was verbally given to him to draw.

The constraint given to him on this project was that the current buildings essentially had to stay where they were. All that could change were the facades.

Ultimately, while this might have breathed SOME new life into TL, it certainly wouldn’t be the Star Wars Land of our dreams. While Galaxy’s Edge falls short of that for various reasons, it’s closer than this concept.
 

CaptinEO

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The constraint given to him on this project was that the current buildings essentially had to stay where they were. All that could change were the facades.

Ultimately, while this might have breathed SOME new life into TL, it certainly wouldn’t be the Star Wars Land of our dreams. While Galaxy’s Edge falls short of that for various reasons, it’s closer than this concept.
I guess that explains a lot. The TL Star Wars redo was definitely a low budget project than. It'd look much better without having all those ships.

I remember Micechat claiming autopia and the submarines would go for an endor speeder bike attraction. Those areas do both seem to be missing from this concept art.
 

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