DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

[AidenRodriguez731]

I am still flabbergasted that the company founded by a man who said he didn't want to do sequels is now basically running on re-makes and sequels.

I mean, no offense but the guy died 60 years ago in a vastly different theatrical environment. In order to be able to make anything new, you have to "play the game" to put it lightly. Sequels/remakes simply make way too much money to ignore while, for the most part, original films are not. The movies are expensive and we have less money and time than ever, families want to have a certain amount of certainity going into the theater, for many this is now a $100+ outing.46/50 of the top grossing movies are sequels/remakes.

 

[jah4955]

Well, at least we still have Mickey's Philharmagic...

Forgot about that one (I was thinking of the turkey instead lol).

Zoogether is a turkey.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Zootopia 2 was a great movie. Too bad they spoiled it with a pig.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I got to enjoy WDW at it's 3-D heyday:

• EPCOT: Captain EO (but imo unable to be enjoyable after 1993 at the latest ...nm all the other overwhelmingly cringeworthy "dated" elements.
• Magic Kindgom: Magic Journeys (with "Working for Peanuts" in 3-D one of the best Donald Duck/Chip n' Dale offerings to date even if it wasn't also in 3-D). [But I admit Magic Journeys is best enjoyed by either being in the 1980s or being "high" (I've never been "high" for the record...it's just my impression lol)]
• MGM: Muppetvision (still hoping this ultimately comes back in what is now the Villians building).
• AK: It's tough to be a bug (my favorite memory was seeing my little brother going airborne in the finale lol)

Today: Zoogether and Pixar short "festival" *sigh again*

Phillarmagic, star tours, toy story mania, and flight of passage still exist.

 

[HMF]

I mean, no offense but the guy died 60 years ago in a vastly different theatrical environment. In order to be able to make anything new, you have to "play the game" to put it lightly. Sequels/remakes simply make way too much money to ignore while, for the most part, original films are not. The movies are expensive and we have less money and time than ever, families want to have a certain amount of certainity going into the theater, for many this is now a $100+ outing.46/50 of the top grossing movies are sequels/remakes.

He must have cared about more than just making money. Let's not pretend that sequels did not exist during his lifetime. Not that the sharp pencil boys running Disney today can understand or appreciate that.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

He must have cared about more than just making money. Let's not pretend that sequels did not exist during his lifetime. Not that the sharp pencil boys running Disney today can understand or appreciate that.

He cared about more than making money sure. Sequels did not exist in the way they do today, there was no massive interconnected universes (there were some popular interconnected universes but not at the level we have today), fandom culture wasn't a real thing yet back with Walt, Sequels did not absolutely shred at the box office back then either, thats a relatively newer thing.

 

[HMF]

He cared about more than making money sure. Sequels did not exist in the way they do today, there was no massive interconnected universes (there were some popular interconnected universes but not at the level we have today), fandom culture wasn't a real thing yet back with Walt, Sequels did not absolutely shred at the box office back then either, thats a relatively newer thing.

That I will grant you. However, I do think the fandom culture is shifting in the sense that I think Disney has now learned the hard way that the Marvel or Star Wars brand name is not large enough to satisfy fans if the product sucks.

 

[BrianLo]

I am still flabbergasted that the company founded by a man who said he didn't want to do sequels is now basically running on re-makes and sequels.

While it’s uncomfortable how much Hollywood is eroding originality, animation still remains our last reprieve. The company puts out more original animated content today than they did in Walt’s time. With the monkey paw of oodles more sequels. It’s a mirage of volume, but it is there.

Unfortunately - I wish the public awarded originality better.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

From what I've heard, Moana 2 wasn't particularly good and that still made mucho moolah at the box office (and that was up against the first Wicked too). I think Zootopia 2 will be fine.

Until The little yellow sponge comes to theaters a month later...

 

[jah4955]

Phillarmagic, star tours, toy story mania, and flight of passage still exist.

I honestly forgot about the first (as I admitted earlier), and that the latter 3 were in 3-D (nm Rat 'til recently). There are so many attractions I have yet to experience once....idk if I ever will ...hopefully....maybe...soonish?

I was thinking only theater mode and harping on Zootopia & "festival" in particular...my apologies for the oversight

 

[EagleScout610]

Until The little yellow sponge comes to theaters a month later...

SpongeBob isn't going to do anything. It's the other group of animals this weekend Zootopia has to worry about.

 

[HMF]

While it’s uncomfortable how much Hollywood is eroding originality, animation still remains our last reprieve. The company puts out more original animated content today than they did in Walt’s time. With the monkey paw of oodles more sequels. It’s a mirage of volume, but it is there.

Unfortunately - I wish the public awarded originality better.

Sadly, none of it is hand-drawn like it was during Walt's time and the renaissance.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I am still flabbergasted that the company founded by a man who said he didn't want to do sequels is now basically running on re-makes and sequels.

He must have cared about more than just making money. Let's not pretend that sequels did not exist during his lifetime. Not that the sharp pencil boys running Disney today can understand or appreciate that.

Son of Flubber (The Absent-Minded Professor sequel)​

Savage Sam (Old Yeller sequel)​

Maybe Walt cared about money a little bit.

 

[networkpro]

Well at least the new attraction has a wait time more than 5 minutes long. However the queue is a sloppy disaster.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Well at least the new attraction has a wait time more than 5 minutes long.

says who?

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

I am still flabbergasted that the company founded by a man who said he didn't want to do sequels is now basically running on re-makes and sequels.

You are flabbergasted that a company isn’t simply following the personal feelings of a guy that has been dead for 60 years? Do you think there is ANY company, let alone an entertainment company who services are based on public opinion/consumption trends, that is following the same strategies they did 60 years ago?

 

[networkpro]

says who?

Me half an hour ago. The wife hates it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Me half an hour ago. The wife hates it.

Did you wait more than 1 show length?

 

[jah4955]

You are flabbergasted that a company isn’t simply following the personal feelings of a guy that has been dead for 60 years? Do you think there is ANY company, let alone an entertainment company who services are based on public opinion/consumption trends, that is following the same strategies they did 60 years ago?

Towards the end of his life Walt himself lamented how he felt "boxed in" a bit, in regards to film...which I'm sure was at least a lesser motivation for focusing all his energy on EPCOT.

I forgot which book, but their analogy of Disney between 1966 & 1984 was largely apropos: a big ship coasting along by a current--no immanent danger, but no extraordinary feats in the sailing either.

Although there were some bold steps during this time (EPCOT, Touchstone, The Disney Channel), the main current was "What Would Walt Do?" Kurt Russell, who got his big break with Disney and was a "Disney poster child" throughout much of this era, supposedly had the boldness to call it out, even though he was essentially just a cog.

The significant breakaway from WWWD in the era Eisner/Wells was that it was a hybrid of Walt's philosophy with a pulse on the currents of the day.

Disney's future depends upon "both" a Walt-philosophy "and" current awareness imo.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disney's future depends upon "both" a Walt-philosophy "and" current awareness imo.

Short answer - I agree for the most part.

I do think Disney as a legacy brand is much more valuable than the current Disney company - I think embracing new ways to expand the legacy brand is the best.