DrStarlander
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I'm surprised we haven't heard about about animated versions of old live-action movies. Star Wars: A New Hope, animated? Doesn't that seem like a Bob thing to do?
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Live-Action reimagining of Moana
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lazyboy97o
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Part of the reason that it’s largely been animated films being remade is because Disney more wholly owns those movies and everything associated with them. Live action movies are often more tangled with who they may have to consult, credit and/or pay.
Maybe don’t do remake “A New Hope”, but an animated Indiana Jones film, or Rocketeer would be nice.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
While not remakes that is essentially what they did with Clone Wars, and then Bad Batch, in my opinion.
Phroobar
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We already have a remake of A New Hope. It's called The Force Awakens.
Surferboy567
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It’s a very weird thing I have like a disassociation with this.
1.) It’s too new to be a live action movie
2.) The sequel just came out
3.) Her face just doesn’t look like the animated one.
It’s pointless, but besides that I guess it’s fine
EDIT: Maui looks weird but that’s kinda what I expected in live action. Some characters are just better animated. This whole exercise is just pointless I think. Much rather have a Moana 3 then a live action movie.
1.) It’s too new to be a live action movie
2.) The sequel just came out
3.) Her face just doesn’t look like the animated one.
It’s pointless, but besides that I guess it’s fine
EDIT: Maui looks weird but that’s kinda what I expected in live action. Some characters are just better animated. This whole exercise is just pointless I think. Much rather have a Moana 3 then a live action movie.
Disstevefan1
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In my opinion -
The good news, this will be a winner at the box office.
The bad news, as a result of the movie's success, Disney will cram more Moana into their theme parks and ships whether if fits or not.
The good news, this will be a winner at the box office.
The bad news, as a result of the movie's success, Disney will cram more Moana into their theme parks and ships whether if fits or not.
Pizza Moon
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I actually think this may flop now.
There can’t be enough dumb parents taking their kids to this abomination, can there?
I didn’t think they could make it look visually worse than Lilo and Stitch, I mean it’s a safe true “remake” it’s not reinventing the wheel like Snow White did, similar to it, yet somehow, holy.
I actually have no words.
This is completely soulless too, in its own way. Just a continuation of it.
There can’t be enough dumb parents taking their kids to this abomination, can there?
I didn’t think they could make it look visually worse than Lilo and Stitch, I mean it’s a safe true “remake” it’s not reinventing the wheel like Snow White did, similar to it, yet somehow, holy.
I actually have no words.
This is completely soulless too, in its own way. Just a continuation of it.
Moana the Franchise has done so well so far, it doesn't need to notch another success for the cramming.
Pizza Moon
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Don’t shoot the messenger but it’s a continuation of miscast people. Even if she’s a fine singer (unlike the train wreck that was Emma Watson), these movies need to feel more like their characters. Emma Stone played an outstanding Cruella, so we know Disney can indeed deliver, Jasmine was well casted too, as was the kid that played Mowgli.
But then you also just have so many movies from Beauty and the Beast to Aladdin in Aladdin, Little Mermaid, hell even the voice actors in Lion King, Snow White, I mean need I go on?
Tangled looks like it has an elite cast though. It’s drawing buzz in a good way, while everyone is mocking Dwayne at least so maybe nature is healing.
I have a feeling Maui is going to visually be a bigger problem than the 7 Dwarfs were in Snow White remake or the anliens in the Lilo and Stitch remake.
God can these remakes just end? Why do people still go see them in theaters? Like I’m burnt out just casually having them on in theaters background on Disney+.
Hopefully people go see Project Hail Mary; a real movie.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
What you call soulless Disney calls money in the bank.
So if your only addition to this is to try and compare this to Lilo and Stitch, then I think the movie will do fine. Sometimes a movie can just be a movie for fun, doesn't have to be groundbreaking or "art".
Pizza Moon
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This actually looks like if Dwayne hosted SNL and jokingly played his character Maui as a skit.
Disstevefan1
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True, thanks for the correction -
Disney will cram more Moana into their theme parks and ships whether if fits or not, no matter how this movie does.
Pizza Moon
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I think it has appeal like Lilo and Stitch, Moana is very popular, that doesn’t mean I don’t think a remake done right wouldn’t make hundreds of millions more.
And Lilo and Stitch making that much is literally just a testament to solid marketing and banking on a beloved character that has been slept on for 20+ years. I could’ve told you that Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, and Lilo and Stitch were billion dollar movies.
Snow White or say Cinderella never could achieve that even if they were masterpieces, tho Cinderella despite being by the numbers and unoriginal like Stitch remake, instead was beautifully shot, perfectly cast, had insane costumes and art direction, all totally absent from Lilo, but it is an average type remake, “safe.”
I could’ve also told you Snow White was going to flop when I first saw the 7 bandits leak LMAO.
Moana I felt was going to do upwards of How to Train Your Dragon, but that was actually a well put together movie, safe like Lilo and stitch, but also better made still.
Moana legitimately looks like a clusterf*** and I sincerely hope parents won’t blow money on this movie, I doubt it’ll be a 1/10 like Snow White or Rise of Skywalker, but idk, 5, like average, looks optimistic. Aladdin had problems, and was truly lacking heart, but it did *some* things right too, where as I don’t know, will there be a single improvement over the original Moana? I actually doubt it, and it’ll be compared so closely with the 2016 movie. I mean you see the reactions of Tangled over Moana, both relatively the same era, but totally different.
I haven’t put enough thought and we’re too far out to know for sure (Snow White was an automatic flop for me like Project Haul Mary was always going to be a success, I mean you could tell the quality difference and the team attached behind it, stars, production design and craftsmanship), but Moana and Mando both are like the embodiment of Disney’s problem.
I think the public’s back is starting to break though with how much they’re willing to tolerate.
Lilo and Stitch wasn’t a train wreck, but will it inspire people to see its sequel being that it was mid and totally lacking heart like the original. Kind of reminds me of Maleficent: Mistress of Evil or Alice Through the Looking Glass. The bankability of the IP and marketing of it only goes so far. When people taste a bad burger they stop eating, and the same quality issues have indeed hurt Disney’s numbers on many films.
I guarantee you if TRON: Ares was a true Legacy sequel with Ryan Gosling as a star and had the Spider-Verse writers attached it would’ve made a profit. Guarantee it like I’d put money in it.
Not every franchise would operate this way, but it’s like would Dark Knight Rises have made more than Dark Knight if it sucked? Absolutely not.
You seem to ignore, consistently, Disney’s just awful output generally, and the totally lacking heart remakes and sequels they pump out.
You occasionally get a gem like Guardians 3, but it feels almost every time like, “wow, we’re lucky Disney let us have this cut.”
Maybe there’ll be a viral TikTok trend to boycott this movie to get Disney to stop the cash grabs, I’m hoping everyday.
People rejected with their wallets 1/10s in Snow White, slop after slop of mid marvel movie from The Marvels to Quantumania to Brave New World, and it’s beautiful to see.
The cultural tide has changed if you can sense it.
People do want high quality movies.
Disney only hurts themselves and their brand by not trying.
It’s like, release a Hunchback of Notre Dame PG-1r movie that follows more so the off-Broadway approach, and adapt it entirely new for live action. Same plots characters, but added depth. Hire an elite writer that has made a banger before. Maybe a second one and see who writes a better plot independently.
I genuinely feel like the CEO needs to start reading the scripts to some degree.
Like if you’re the Disney CEO, it’s your life, you’re not going to have a 40-hour work week. You live eat and breathe Disney, and you do what it takes. It’s totally a writing room problem and Disney’s corporate HR meddling in everything.
Iger’s mantra that has milked Disney of “just make it cuz they’ll come and they’re peasants that will eat anything we put out” has been proven spectacularly wrong, as have other studios that have been doing the same.
And it’s like, when you make a trilogy like Star Wars, hire someone competent like Dune got. It’s instant money when you pair talent with popular franchises. Instant money. Anytime you don’t try you’re leaving money on the table. It literally makes no sense, you could keep the heart and shoot Lilo and Stitch well you’re already spending millions, it’s just pure laziness, like totally on management and no one else.
Ya know?
The fact Disney has been messing up the basics while coasting on the most valuable IP library of any company by far is profoundly mind blowing.
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Pizza Moon
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I hope so. I’d also love to see Moana, Lilo and Stitch, and Tangled rides as well, vastly overdue. Same with Aladdin. Hercules would well as a Greece pavilion at EPCOT too!True, thanks for the correction -
Disney will cram more Moana into their theme parks and ships whether if fits or not, no matter how this movie does.
I wouldn’t want any of these remakes though to touch the parks with a 100 foot pole, keep it as the originals. They’re considered exceptional filmmaking for a reason.
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Brer Panther
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Maui in live action looks incredibly strange. It’s like his head is too small for his body.
Gremlin Gus
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I'm going to be honest... this looks mid, like I don't think it'll be horrible, but probably a 4-5/10, shame since the animated Moana is really good and I'm 99% certain this was done only because of Dwayne Johnson and money :/
At least the actress playing Moana does a nice job at the role imo, Dwayne is only really doing for his voice of Maui, but not at all for the live-action counterpart, but it's cool they animated his tattoos ig.
At least the actress playing Moana does a nice job at the role imo, Dwayne is only really doing for his voice of Maui, but not at all for the live-action counterpart, but it's cool they animated his tattoos ig.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Holy stream of consciousness batman, you're all over place here.
I don't ignore anything, let alone Disney's output. They can put up a stinker just like any Studio out there. Some around here try to hold them up to a higher standard than every other Studio in Hollywood for some reason, yet forget that they have a long history of over 100 years now of many many many lean years where they couldn't find a hit with a map.
I learned long ago not to try to predict how a movie will do, especially after a single trailer, because everything is at the whim of the audience's mood. What some think will be flops end up being $Billion movies and what some think will be successes end up being flops. Nothing is guaranteed in the movie business.
I'm reminded of all the people who after the first trailer for Moana 2 dropped how they claimed it would flop because of how bad it looked, and yet.....
Also people want to be entertained first and foremost, quality is secondary to that. Never forget that. That is why we have about a Billion hours of Reality TV and why people flock to garbage movies all the time. Its called the Entertainment Business for a reason, to entertain. And entertainment comes in all forms, even if it doesn't personally appeal to YOU.