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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

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celluloid

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HMF said:
Eisner was the person who extended the idea of IP attractions outside Fantasyland but unlike Iger, Eisner actually was open to original ideas whereas Iger has enshrined in policy that completely original ideas are forbidden.
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Eisner understood entertainment. A fairly creative guy for sure. He was willing to understand and elevate theme parks.

I am a Michael Eisner fan. My comment was to the poster who said it is not just Iger. It is not. It is the leadership with Iger that grew and become the norm more and more since 2010.
 
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HMF

HMF

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celluloid said:
Eisner understood entertainment. A fairly creative guy for sure. He was willing to understand and elevate theme parks.

I am a Michael Eisner fan. My comment was to the poster who said it is not just Iger. It is not. It is the leadership with Iger that grew and become the norm more and more since 2010.
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Eisner did have some pretty glaring flaws during the post-Wells period, though for every Rocket Rods or Disney's California Adventure there was a Hunchback of Notre Dame or IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth. Igers Disney would never go near the last two.
 
Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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mickEblu said:
I couldn’t care less for it as well. But if they have to put it somewhere DHS is where it belongs. Ideally Zootopia wouldn’t take any precious real estate at any park especially if the ride is just another version of MMRR that already exists. Definitely don’t think it’s needed at DLR where we already have Toontown. I look at Zootopia land as Shanghai’s Toontown with their version of MMRR.
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But it is too similar to Mickey and Riss to put it in DHS…
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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HMF said:
Eisner did have some pretty glaring flaws during the post-Wells period, though for every Rocket Rods or Disney's California Adventure
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Those projects got budget cut cause he was scared after Paris. If we had gotten Westcot and a full budget DAK!? Oh man. We were so close.
Fox&Hound said:
But it is too similar to Mickey and Riss to put it in DHS…
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Iger says “hold my ears”
 
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celluloid

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HMF said:
Eisner did have some pretty glaring flaws during the post-Wells period, though for every Rocket Rods or Disney's California Adventure there was a Hunchback of Notre Dame or IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth. Igers Disney would never go near the last two.
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100 percent. No one is perfect. And he served his time.

And those flaws were among consistent growth and change to the parks. Stagnent, was rarely a thing with Eisner.

He also put his face on it for acountability, for sure ego is there somewhere, but by putting his face and name on Wonderful World of Disney etc...he made himself accountable. This, Iger can never touch, even in a time when transparency is easier than ever.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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celluloid said:
Eisner understood entertainment. A fairly creative guy for sure. He was willing to understand and elevate theme parks.

I am a Michael Eisner fan. My comment was to the poster who said it is not just Iger. It is not. It is the leadership with Iger that grew and become the norm more and more since 2010.
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Eisner was the worst thing ever…never forget that

The reality that the current one is way more of an egomaniac who is failing with total control and is burning down the forest around is just background noise…

…did I get it write?
 
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V_L_Raptor

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Does anyone think Bruce “cool sh**” is a good thing for WDI? Are you just hoping that he had nothing to do with this so cars of the frontier isn’t a disaster?
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Mind you, Bruce would not be the singular possible point of failure on any of these. No, the whole thing (pick a thing) could still go mammaries up no matter who the visionary is. Disney just has to keep on Disneying along its current trajectory.

(It's not as though Front-Tire Land is any more inspirational than Zoogether Day...)
 
Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

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For some reason I feel the last bit of the show was the cheap knockoff ending..
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Now, it's just a thought but, "What-If" Flash was intended to be an animatronic that popped up at the end where Flik usually came out of..And waved at everyone while they were heading out of the theater.


Also, another thought....Do they even have a B-Mode version if Clawhauser goes down?
 
HMF

HMF

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Those projects got budget cut cause he was scared after Paris. If we had gotten Westcot and a full budget DAK!? Oh man. We were so close.
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As has been said a thousand times, If only they had resisted the urge to build so many damn hotels before they knew the economic feasibility.
 
HMF

HMF

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celluloid said:
100 percent. No one is perfect. And he served his time.

And those flaws were among consistent growth and change to the parks. Stagnent, was rarely a thing with Eisner.

He also put his face on it for acountability, for sure ego is there somewhere, but by putting his face and name on Wonderful World of Disney etc...he made himself accountable. This, Iger can never touch, even in a time when transparency is easier than ever.
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Ironically, one of the last things Eisner did was make Matt Ouimet President of DLR. He did a pretty good job cleaning up the Pressler/Harris mess for the 50th Anniversary. Once Iger settled in, He was gone, as for the last WDI project Eisner approved . the "non descript mountain themed to India or something."
 
Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

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HMF said:
Ironically, one of the last things Eisner did was make Matt Ouimet President of DLR. He did a pretty good job cleaning up the Pressler/Harris mess for the 50th Anniversary. Once Iger settled in, He was gone, as for the last WDI project Eisner approved . the "non descript mountain themed to India or something."
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Then he took over Cedar Fair and built a great success with it during his time there before he left..
 
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WorldExplorer

WorldExplorer

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This makes me think the Muppet replacement show is more likely to be Put That Thing Back Where It Came From or So Help Me.

Which is a terrible idea because the whole joke was that it sucked and was being pulled from thin air, and they do not have the comedic chops to make that work for a full show. Or bits of one.

But it would make it easy to throw in movie characters and reference specific moments (which was clearly important to them here) and they can just recycle movie jokes, potentially with some stock meta references ("this is the part where...!") if they really feel like hitting all the comedy cliches.


We've complained about Disney scrubbing fear from their parks, let's acknowledge their war on humor. We've lost actually funny things like Country Bears, Dinoland, Muppet Vision, and It's Tough to Be a Bug. And they replace them with unfunny crap like this. I miss actually laughing in Disney.

But wait, let me guess...

- oh no George Sanderson got hit with 2319 again
- we don't talk about- stop
- Mike got blocked on something again
- oh no snakes I hate snakes

Ha...ha...
 
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Biff215

Biff215

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Cmdr_Crimson said:
For some reason I feel the last bit of the show was the cheap knockoff ending..
Zootopia-Better-Zoogether_Full_62758.jpg

Now, it's just a thought but, "What-If" Flash was intended to be an animatronic that popped up at the end where Flik usually came out of..And waved at everyone while they were heading out of the theater.


Also, another thought....Do they even have a B-Mode version if Clawhauser goes down?
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Someone else claimed a Gazelle animatronic was originally supposed to drop down out of the ceiling at the end, Country Bears style. This wouldn’t have fixed the terrible story but would have helped the overall experience and provided a wow moment. The problem with having any character in theater is this whole “live stream” nonsense though.

Good question on “B” mode. It would be awkward if Clawhauser wasn’t visible/not moving but the characters on screen were still talking to him. Nothing would surprise me much after this mess though, it doesn’t have many redeemable qualities sadly.
 

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