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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

WorldExplorer

Well-Known Member
I watched it now. Definitely a hot mess.

I think this was an eye opening demonstration of the heart of the problem: these people aren't story tellers. Or at least they suck at it.

People will tell you that the great Imagineers were all storytellers.

From that perspective, this should be the softball assignment, the easy one. Make a film that incorporates water spritzes, a fog cannon, and an animatronic being spoken to in the corner. It's a video and the number of effects have been greatly diminished. Compared to stuff like retrofitting Splash Mountain (there's still no excuse for Tiana's sucking, but I can at least acknowledge it was a tough assignment) this should be a breeze.

Just tell a story with a few effects.

But they seem to have bungled everything in a wide variety of ways. The effects are forced or don't make sense, the plot is nonsense, everything about it is bad. Has anyone in here mentioned how a whole day passes in the video while we sit there for ten minutes?

The only good thing about this is that it makes me appreciate It's Tough to Be a Bug more.

Also, this is me, about ten months ago saying complaining about puns isn't funny:

Same for if any character refuses to sing or otherwise makes an "ugh singing" comment.

They actually did this.

At this point if you told me that part of the Imagineer hiring process was asking if you have ever made anyone laugh in your entire life and then immediately rejecting you if you say yes, I would believe you.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
Can we create a new term from this? "Theme park slop"? Attractions that aren't just bad in an interesting way, or maybe something that had potential to be good but the project fell apart along the way and it missed the mark?

This is something else. This is pure, cynical, lazy, corporate-mandated slop and it feels like a new low for Disney. I think theme park fans need to be vocal about this one because there are, of course, going to be a lot of less engaged park-goers are going to handwave it as "it's cute."
 
In the Parks
Yes
To me, the worst part of the show is that it lacks the gravitas required to be in The Tree of Life.
I always thought a Jungle Book 3D show would've been a good replacement for Bug. Have a Bagheera animatronic where Hopper/Clawhauser is located to serve as our guide. You could even retain the musical revue story line from Bug but instead have Baloo be the host. Include appearances from Kaa, Hathi, the vultures, King Louie, Shere Khan, the possibilities are endless.

And yet here we are.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Here’s a look at the meet-and-greet space:

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Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
Is Ms. Slate that desperate for acting jobs that she needs to return as Bellwether?
She's a popular celebrity, she gets voice acting jobs tossed her way left and right. So, no, she's not desperate for work.

Did they get EVERYBODY from the film back? I know Ginnifer Goodwin and Jason Bateman came back, so I'm guessing everyone else is back too but I haven't found official confirmation...
 

lightningtap347

Well-Known Member
I walked by this today at 6PM (I did not know today was the preview day) and they were letting anyone in. They didn't check if you were an AP or not. Overall, I didn't like it and I don't think I'm the target audience.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
A Lion King show would have made so much more sense in the Tree of Life. Then put the Zootopia land in DHS.
The Zootopia land they chose to build in Shanghai does not make me desirous of another no matter what park they opt to put it in, and it's not just because the associated attraction is meh. When translated semi-faithfully to the real world, the film's cities are aesthetic disasters that are neither visually pleasing nor authentic-feeling. This is part of the inherent problem with building facsimile IP lands based on environments that weren't designed to seem real or lived in. Potter, Pandora, and Batuu work because they come from world-building franchises, but Zootopia's core city is just a zany, busy, colorful backdrop.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
The Zootopia land they chose to build in Shanghai does not make me desirous of another no matter what park they opt to put it in, and it's not just because the associated attraction is meh. When translated semi-faithfully to the real world, the film's cities are aesthetic disasters that are neither visually pleasing nor authentic-feeling. This is part of the inherent problem with building facsimile IP lands based on environments that weren't designed to seem real or lived in. Potter, Pandora, and Batuu work because they come from world-building franchises, but Zootopia's core city is just a zany, busy, colorful backdrop.

I couldn’t care less for it as well. But if they have to put it somewhere DHS is where it belongs. Ideally Zootopia wouldn’t take any precious real estate at any park especially if the ride is just another version of MMRR that already exists. Definitely don’t think it’s needed at DLR where we already have Toontown. I look at Zootopia land as Shanghai’s Toontown with their version of MMRR.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I couldn’t care less for it as well. But if they have to put it somewhere DHS is where it belongs. Ideally Zootopia wouldn’t take any precious real estate at any park especially if the ride is just another version of MMRR that already exists. Definitely don’t think it’s needed at DLR where we already have Toontown. I look at Zootopia land as Shanghai’s Toontown with their version of MMRR.
Personally I think it could stay in Shanghai and never appear anywhere else. :cautious:
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
People will tell you that the great Imagineers were all storytellers.
It depends on what your definition of story is. The majority of the WED era attractions were more of a series of experiences building to a climax Not really a story with a main character and a beginning middle and end. The idea of the rides telling explicit stories really was an invention of the Eisner era. The problem with the more recent efforts under WDI is that a lot of the "story" beats of the rides feel contrived and the attractions themselves feel more like elaborate advertisements rather than a loosely-connected series of vignettes like the WED days or the more story driven style of the Eisner era. Iger tells them what to build and what IP it should be, They randomly cram it into a park it often doesn't fit in. They come up with an elaborate backstory or more accurately "excuse" for it to be there. Iger's philosophy is basically that WDI is essentially the most expensive marketing firm in the world and they have outsourced most of the actual production to companies like Garner Holt for AAs. So really WDI now is a handful of creative executives who supervise the projects but have very little creativity because the Iger mantra refuses to let them actually be creative.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
They can’t feasibly fail to this extent because they’ll just generally be larger, more exciting, more desirable attractions. They could be thematic messes for AK and will still be very popular rides, whereas a sit-down show kind of lives and dies by the content.
Themed Rides can live and die by their content too.

"They can't mess Tiana's up come to mind."

heck, most of DCA's original content.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
"They can't mess Tiana's up come to mind."
Tiana is an enjoyable ride in a vacuum despite the nothingburger story. It’s the specter of what preceded it that throws a real wrench in the works. If they built something similar in scope and narrative as a new attraction rather than a reskin, absolutely no one would reasonably rate it a D-, to reference your original post. I’d wager Encanto will at least be similar because it’s basically too large to be an abject failure. It can miss on both park theme and narrative and will still be a draw because it will be massive and technically impressive. It also has the advantage of no one having ever cared about Primeval Whirl. By comparison, a 4D show like Zoogether will never have the scope, thrill, or complexity necessary to be enjoyable in spite of its content.
 

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