WOL Demo coming ..

[Biff215]

The problem with adding Coco is that it would be such a popular addition that they would have to get rid of retail and restaurants space to fit a queue and I don’t think Disney is willing to do that

I don’t see them doing that so the queue would likely need to be built beside the pavilion. Still the issue is the length of the current ride, particularly while they build a brand new Coco ride at DCA. The comparisons would be inevitable and likely brutal.

 

[HMF]

narratively they bent over backwards to mesh Guardians into Epcot as far as centering the pavilion around Xandar (though fictional, it’s presented as educational) plus all of the actual real life space facts (such as the shuttle to contact life outside of earth with stuff like music on it). Plus the storyline being about the Big Bang? By all means they bent over backwards to fit guardians into Epcot. Besides, people love it.

That being said, it is very funny to imagine a world where universal wanted the rights to, not only the guardians (who at the time were not the famous team), but also Star-Lord who showed up once every ten years for legal reasons and nothing else.

GOTG intrinsically cannot fit in EPCOT. Tomorrowland is where science fiction should go, EPCOT is about reality.

 

[HMF]

The problem with adding Coco is that it would be such a popular addition that they would have to get rid of retail and restaurants space to fit a queue and I don’t think Disney is willing to do that

That didn't stop them with Frozen.

 

[ChrisFL]

That didn't stop them with Frozen.

I think that's a bit of a different situation due to the layout.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

GOTG intrinsically cannot fit in EPCOT. Tomorrowland is where science fiction should go, EPCOT is about reality.

Except for Body Wars

 

[flynnibus]

Except for Body Wars

Body Wars was future reality

 

[OptimusPrime]

GOTG intrinsically cannot fit in EPCOT. Tomorrowland is where science fiction should go, EPCOT is about reality.

Captain EO famously happened in real life.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Except for Body Wars

And a purple dragon

 

[OptimusPrime]

GOTG intrinsically cannot fit in EPCOT. Tomorrowland is where science fiction should go, EPCOT is about reality.

This statement is also messy because there are plenty of offerings in Tomorrowland that fit into Epcot (which is a common talking point among Disney Adults). At the end of the day, this comment doesn't come from any source of appreciation for the park, but from nostalgia. EPCOT has always had science fiction in its dna. Whether it be Dreamfinder and Figment, Captain EO, those classic outfits Mickey and the gang used to wear. What separates the reality of a man and his dragon searching for imagination to inspire people and a man and his raccoon going back to the big bang?

A non-Guardians big bang coaster would also be science fiction since you'd have to explain how you got there with time travel. Not to mention Body Wars and shrinking down? Cranium Command and being in a fictionalized version of the human mind. As much as Horizons was about "future" living, it was very much a science fiction ride. Jules Vern is there!!!

It is okay to be nostalgic for what was there when you were a kid. But it is disingenuous to bring up this specific issue for Guardians because sci fi has always been part of EPCOT's identity.

 

[FigmentFan82]

This statement is also messy because there are plenty of offerings in Tomorrowland that fit into Epcot (which is a common talking point among Disney Adults). At the end of the day, this comment doesn't come from any source of appreciation for the park, but from nostalgia. EPCOT has always had science fiction in its dna. Whether it be Dreamfinder and Figment, Captain EO, those classic outfits Mickey and the gang used to wear. What separates the reality of a man and his dragon searching for imagination to inspire people and a man and his raccoon going back to the big bang?

A non-Guardians big bang coaster would also be science fiction since you'd have to explain how you got there with time travel. Not to mention Body Wars and shrinking down? Cranium Command and being in a fictionalized version of the human mind. As much as Horizons was about "future" living, it was very much a science fiction ride. Jules Vern is there!!!

It is okay to be nostalgic for what was there when you were a kid. But it is disingenuous to bring up this specific issue for Guardians because sci fi has always been part of EPCOT's identity.

Very well said

 

[flynnibus]

This statement is also messy because there are plenty of offerings in Tomorrowland that fit into Epcot (which is a common talking point among Disney Adults). At the end of the day, this comment doesn't come from any source of appreciation for the park, but from nostalgia. EPCOT has always had science fiction in its dna. Whether it be Dreamfinder and Figment, Captain EO, those classic outfits Mickey and the gang used to wear. What separates the reality of a man and his dragon searching for imagination to inspire people and a man and his raccoon going back to the big bang?

optimism and celebrating the advancement of civilization with technology was not the same as random science fiction fantasy. World Fairs were rooted in demonstrating the potential and generating optimism for how things are advancing.

Space Suit Mickey is not a hall pass for Alien Super Heros.

 

[OptimusPrime]

optimism and celebrating the advancement of civilization with technology was not the same as random science fiction fantasy. World Fairs were rooted in demonstrating the potential and generating optimism for how things are advancing.

Space Suit Mickey is not a hall pass for Alien Super Heros.

Then I must once again raise you the question why Captain EO is okay but Star-Lord isn’t

 

[flynnibus]

Then I must once again raise you the question why Captain EO is okay but Star-Lord isn’t

Because Captain EO was made for Disneyland TL - not EPCOT.

Captain EO was brought in as a clone - not an attraction built for Imagination and then reverse engineered to claim it was about EPCOT all along

 

[networkpro]

GOTG intrinsically cannot fit in EPCOT. Tomorrowland is where science fiction should go, EPCOT is about reality.

Watch out France Pavilion, Germany is coming for you!

 

[OptimusPrime]

Because Captain EO was made for Disneyland TL - not EPCOT.

Captain EO was brought in as a clone - not an attraction built for Imagination and then reverse engineered to claim it was about EPCOT all along

Yes but it was still at Epcot and everyone accepts and loves it as an Epcot attraction. So I must ask you again why is Captain EO okay at Epcot?

 

[networkpro]

I'm waiting for the CMs to make little rafts to immigrate between pavilions.

 

[Jrb1979]

Yes but it was still at Epcot and everyone accepts and loves it as an Epcot attraction. So I must ask you again why is Captain EO okay at Epcot?

Captain EO was also a part of the Imagination Pavilion. It wasn't the main focus.

 

[flynnibus]

Yes but it was still at Epcot and everyone accepts and loves it as an Epcot attraction. So I must ask you again why is Captain EO okay at Epcot?

Why are you insisting I answer for a statement I never made?

Captain EO's presence is not a reference to establish EPCOT was always about Sci Fi or "in its dna" as you claimed. It wasn't even part of EPCOT's design, nor was the product even designed FOR EPCOT. The fact it was later put there does not retrocon those facts.

 

[OptimusPrime]

Captain EO was also a part of the Imagination Pavilion. It wasn't the main focus.

See now we’re changing the goal post. And if we want to bring it back to the original topic, why does Imagination belong in Epcot if it doesn’t focus on strictly reality.

See how this is a stupid circular argument about what does and doesn’t belong in Epcot based on rules made up by nostalgic grown men who can’t dare to see a ride that regular guests will enjoy in their precious nostalgia den?

There are plenty of reasons why specific attractions don’t belong in certain places like Zootopia in Animal Kingdom. But Guardians really wound up being very organic in the area and most people who either don’t care enough or study the parks from a lens outside of their own personal nostalgia understand that.

 

[flynnibus]

why does Imagination belong in Epcot if it doesn’t focus on strictly reality

It's literally in the name... IMAGINATION. The theme of the pavilion was about creativity and optimism for the future because of the limitless power of... your imagination. It celebrated and encouraged human potential by focusing on the boundless limits of human imagination.

Did you ever listen to the song?

We all have sparks, imaginations
That's how our minds, create creations
For they can make, our wildest dreams come true
Those magic sparks, in me and you

Imagination! Imagination!
A dream, can be a dream come true
With just that spark, in me and you

The problem is you are so literal you're missing the actual message that wove through Future World.