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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!

Rich Brownn

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We're only discussing the most recent quarter, not the full year.

As far as capacity, there are no restrictions on gate capacity at this time (and there haven't been in quite a while)
Not according to Comcast - they specifically state they aren't allowing capacity at this time:

“In terms of Epic itself, our focus now is just driving increased ride capacity. It's a new park and very technologically advanced, so working on the labour and the kinks to drive it to full capacity.

We've been holding back a little bit to make sure the experience is what we want it to be. We expect it to fully scale up in the months ahead, and we'll really be driving higher attendance, per caps, and improved operating leverage.”
 

Unbanshee

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Not according to Comcast - they specifically state they aren't allowing capacity at this time:

“In terms of Epic itself, our focus now is just driving increased ride capacity. It's a new park and very technologically advanced, so working on the labour and the kinks to drive it to full capacity.

We've been holding back a little bit to make sure the experience is what we want it to be. We expect it to fully scale up in the months ahead, and we'll really be driving higher attendance, per caps, and improved operating leverage.”

They can certainly say whatever they'd like (and I would draw your attention to "ride capacity" as the topic of the quote), but the fact is that they are not hitting capacity limits. Tickets remain available, which means that they aren't "holding back" anything in terms of gate capacity.

Perhaps they're discussing "holding back" capacity in terms of not offering an Annual Pass, but that interpretation would require reading past the words that were actually said

I believe that they are holding back in terms of ride capacity. Say, running 10 cars instead of 15 because they are concerned that the ride may break when a 12th car enters the track.
 

Rich Brownn

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They can certainly say whatever they'd like (and I would draw your attention to "ride capacity" as the topic of the quote), but the fact is that they are not hitting capacity limits. Tickets remain available, which means that they aren't "holding back" anything in terms of gate capacity.

Perhaps they're discussing "holding back" capacity in terms of not offering an Annual Pass, but that interpretation would require reading past the words that were actually said

I believe that they are holding back in terms of ride capacity. Say, running 10 cars instead of 15 because they are concerned that the ride may break when a 12th car enters the track.
What exactly do you think they meant by "holding back a little bit" - that they are deliberately not running the rides at full capacity. No, they are limiting park capacity. They even added "to make the experience is what they want it to be" Thats specifically attendance. Saying "we're not running the rides at full capacity to make the experience what they want it to be" would equate to "We're deliberately making long lines because thats what people want"
 

JT3000

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Since wait-time data on Thrill-Data has been recorded, this has been the busiest year yet.

Unlike previous years with highs and low, every single night has been consistently busy.
That would suggest that even non-peak nights, of which I've been attending, should be unusually busy. They haven't been. I could maybe be convinced of unusually busy weekends, but I was there personally to witness business as usual on the other nights. For the longest time, FNAF was the only house regularly breaking the three digit mark. Even Terrifier was usually only 80-90 until more recently.
 
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Tom Morrow

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They can certainly say whatever they'd like (and I would draw your attention to "ride capacity" as the topic of the quote), but the fact is that they are not hitting capacity limits. Tickets remain available, which means that they aren't "holding back" anything in terms of gate capacity.

Perhaps they're discussing "holding back" capacity in terms of not offering an Annual Pass, but that interpretation would require reading past the words that were actually said

I believe that they are holding back in terms of ride capacity. Say, running 10 cars instead of 15 because they are concerned that the ride may break when a 12th car enters the track.

I think it's just corporate big wigs saying things that will please shareholders that they don't even really have to "prove" of doing. If they actually increase how many people they allow in the park, the way it currently is, it would be a big mistake.

I thought it was normal to not run at capacity. Disney does not run their attractions at capacity, like Sorin?

No. Disney and Universal are both very good at running "at capacity" or close to it whenever they can or need it, in terms of how many vehicles/theaters/etc are operating for the day.

Just in case there's confusion, a ride's theoretical maximum hourly capacity is not the same as a ride considered to be running at full capacity. For example, Hulk can run with three trains, so having all three on means the ride is operating at full capacity. However, the theoretical maximum hourly capacity is how many riders could ride in one hour if every seat is filled and there are absolutely no delays. This is rarely ever achievable, so every ride has an adjusted expectation for how many riders should be able to ride per hour given the number of available ride vehicles.
 
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Sir_Cliff

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I know the parks are coming of a rough few years, but is a 13% jump in profits for the division of the basis of a new park a bad result? I guess it comes down to how much they spent to build it and their expectations. However, I would have thought that was a reasonable bump considering it is for the whole division and seems to be coming entirely from Epic and the associated hotels.
 

Rich Brownn

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I thought it was normal to not run at capacity. Disney does not run their attractions at capacity, like Sorin?
Depends on the crowds. If it's busy, yes, it runs at the fullest capacity they can manage (and sometimes, if you squeeze, you can even pass theoretical capacity. Not that I eve did that working Pirates in the 70s :D )
 

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