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October 2025 Price Increases

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I’m gonna guess somewhere that doesn’t raise prices as they can’t fill their rooms or sell park tickets?
Oh I’m not excusing the prices - I was just curious.

By the way…. When did the annual price hikes start? I think it’s a bad business move to raise prices annually the way Disney does - it’s bad optics. It makes them look greedy, which they are, but they don’t even try to hide it. It’s like a religious ritual of “thou shalt increase your tithe to the mouse”
 

Chi84

Premium Member
So many great posts the last couple pages but ultimately this is what it boil down to for us also.

Prices are up on everything, the necessities are taking a larger piece of everyones budget… but with vacations it’s all about value… and when you compare the price of a Disney vacation to something like a trip to Europe it’s gotten harder every year to pick Disney over the other options.
Not if you want to go to WDW instead of Europe.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Oh I’m not excusing the prices - I was just curious.

By the way…. When did the annual price hikes start? I think it’s a bad business move to raise prices annually the way Disney does - it’s bad optics. It makes them look greedy, which they are, but they don’t even try to hide it. It’s like a religious ritual of “thou shalt increase your tithe to the mouse”
There have been close to annual hikes on some things for decades

But across the board? Never

That’s the problem
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I know this is already long but I want to address something people like to mention which is that LL and ILL are optional so you can't count that as an increase. Maybe you* say "It's not so bad for me because I didn't use FP+ to begin with" but that's exactly why Disney did it this way - to make people think they're being given more options now which disguises the price increase

I think your train of thought is off. This is not about masking price increases. This is about monetizing demand. These are generating new revenue streams by monetizing things that previously we got for free.

It is a very different mindset verse shifting where dollars show up… this is considered new money, not revenue from price increases.

Yes, the net effect to a customer really isn’t different… especially if the attach rate is high… but the assignment of motivation is very different from what you elude to.

This is ‘a way to drive revenue’ not ‘a way to increase prices in deceptive ways’. Impact to totsl spend prople fo is viewed differently. These new streams for things like ILL are very much considered new money… mondy thag is tracked on its own because it requires conversion/buy in.

Motivation is same… drive revenue, but i think it’s a mischaractoration to phrase it like hiding increases. The motivation id no deceit- but generating nee revenue by monetizing things.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I don't have a problem with Disney making money on me. I would expect that. They are a business and businesses are in the business of making a profit.

The only thing that mattered is that I was comfortable with the price, I could afford it and I felt like it was worth it. The prices have gotten so high that those three things no longer apply. I'm okay with that.

Oh, absolutely.

Everyone has to turn a profit. That's how the system works.

I think most of us all know that in this day-and-age, there is no direct relationship with wholesale/operational costs and retail price on almost anything anymore.

It's just that in many ways, for many things being charged, it's not just detached from cost but it appears to be also detached from reality. I'm starting to wonder how many more existing rooms they'll need to convert to DVC going forward.

I don't see how they can continue at the current rate at which they're raising prices, cutting back and finding ways to split things out to create additional purchases to accelerate price increases.

How is that sustainable?

In less than 7 years, at the rate of increases they're currently on, the most expensive single day ticket for a single park with no park-hopper option, no lightning lane and whatever new ways they find to shave value off the entry price and sell it to us as an add-on will be over $300 per person... for a ticket where people will then spend the majority of their day waiting in lines.

That's not even considering increases of LL, churro increase, Mickey Ear increases, room rates, parking, etc. which will also of course, occur at the same time.

With the current financial outlook and it not being uncommon this year for employers to not even be giving annual perforamnce review/cost of living increases, I wonder who Disney sees as their demographic if they continue. I suspect it won't be most of the people in this forum, today who aren't retired and are feeling the brunt of the current conditions.

Of course, the same can be said for the touring show of Hamilton but they don't need to sell nearly as many seats as Disney does hotel rooms and Mickey ears to keep that money train rolling so Disney trying to compare the "value" of a Disney vacation to other forms of entertainment is a good talking point but that talking point's not going to save them as more people move from being a little annoyed at how much they ended up paying in the end for the experience they got ("but it was still worth it to give my kids that Disney trip"*) into the camp who simply can't book the vacation to begin with.

I wonder if they have a plan or like so many things over the past twenty or so years, people doing this today don't seem to think they're still going to be there when this has to be figured out.


*Thinking back to some of the commercials from the limited time only campaign.
 
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MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I think your train of thought is off. This is not about masking price increases. This is about monetizing demand. These are generating new revenue streams by monetizing things that previously we got for free.

It is a very different mindset verse shifting where dollars show up… this is considered new money, not revenue from price increases.

Yes, the net effect to a customer really isn’t different… especially if the attach rate is high… but the assignment of motivation is very different from what you elude to.

This is ‘a way to drive revenue’ not ‘a way to increase prices in deceptive ways’. Impact to totsl spend prople fo is viewed differently. These new streams for things like ILL are very much considered new money… mondy thag is tracked on its own because it requires conversion/buy in.

Motivation is same… drive revenue, but i think it’s a mischaractoration to phrase it like hiding increases. The motivation id no deceit- but generating nee revenue by monetizing things.

I get your point but free FP was a tool that allowed them to push more people into the parks while not increasing desirable attraction capacity disguised as a benefit until for many people, it became a necessity due to the standby situation created by the line skip option and them taking a decade off from doing the expansion they needed to in order to keep up with increasing attendance.

Just a reminder: how awful so many people remember the parks feeling in 2019 with crowding was entirely of management's making and they were profiting off it hand-over-fist. There is zero chance they could have introduced Lighting Lane and called it "found money" in that environment, though.

COVID was the reset.

You can say deceit isn't the intent (and I concede, I don't think it's 100% the goal) but taking away value in place of increasing prices (or doing both) is a pretty common practice. As you very well know, a cereal box staying as tall but getting thinner and that bubble at the bottom of the peanut jar becoming more pronounced with ounces going down while prices slightly inch up and the product at a glance, doesn't appear any different isn't accidentally deceptive - companies know what they're doing and I think it would be really generous to suggest Disney is any different.

When you hear their leaders talk about continued investment and the value they continue to provide to counter ticket price increase complaints in interviews, they conveniently leave off the loss of benefit part. Why is that? Are you suggesting they somehow aren't aware?

... or would they prefer guests not think about that? It doesn't take Dr. Evil villainy for any company, including Disney, to act this way and I'm not trying to suggest otherwise. I don't think anyone in a meeting is going "how can we stick it to our customers without them realizing?" but I do think they were likely saying things along the lines of "how can we increase spend with the majority of customers without major investment and without putting a 20% price increase directly on tickets all at once that no customer will be okay with?"

People always seem to forget this huge pricing shift when comparing current ticket pricing to historical (like the one used to compare today's prices adjusted for inflation to those of 2012 a few pages back where Disney still doesn't come out of it looking that good).

Call me cynical but I don't think that's a happy accident for Disney.

Maybe I'm totally wrong but LL and especially ILL look to me to be one of Disney's versions of shrinkflation, just like their attempt at resort fees kind of was - although that was more blatantly scummy* since it was an unavoidable cost so not quite the same.

Perhaps it's semantics but an honest new revenue stream to me is adding value and charging for it - not taking away value and charging people extra to get it back.

That's just my opinion, though.

If Regal increases the price of their nachos and then starts charging $2 extra for the cheese, I'll be shaking my fist at that "new revenue stream" like a crazy person, too. 🤬

*Disney's excuse was something like "aligning with industry standards" which is a nice way of saying "everyone else has been getting away with it so we want to, too". Yes, I called it scummy. I think it's just as scummy when the other places do it and I feel like at some point when this started popping up everywhere, Disney management thought it was, too... Or at least they already knew what kind of a good thing they had with their room rates and didn't want to upset the cart. Obviously, there was a Bob who wasn't concerned and tried but apparently the magic wasn't strong enough to pass that under the guest radar. Should have called it something else and started it off cheap and then just aggressively raised the price of it year over year like they have LL - probably would have gotten away with it.
 
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wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
Question in 1977 spent our honeymoon at the Contemporary $49/night. Based on the inflation rate what should that room cost today ?
As per AI:
$49 in 1977 is equivalent to approximately $261.96 in 2025. This is calculated based on the average inflation rate of about
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3.55%3.55 %
per year between 1977 and 2025, which resulted in a cumulative price increase of
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434.61%.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
As per AI:
$49 in 1977 is equivalent to approximately $261.96 in 2025. This is calculated based on the average inflation rate of about
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3.55%3.55 %
per year between 1977 and 2025, which resulted in a cumulative price increase of
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434.61%.
The cheapest “garden” room rack is $609

The cheapest tower room is $854

For the week after Labor Day
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I think your train of thought is off. This is not about masking price increases. This is about monetizing demand. These are generating new revenue streams by monetizing things that previously we got for free.

It is a very different mindset verse shifting where dollars show up… this is considered new money, not revenue from price increases.

Yes, the net effect to a customer really isn’t different… especially if the attach rate is high… but the assignment of motivation is very different from what you elude to.

This is ‘a way to drive revenue’ not ‘a way to increase prices in deceptive ways’. Impact to totsl spend prople fo is viewed differently. These new streams for things like ILL are very much considered new money… mondy thag is tracked on its own because it requires conversion/buy in.

Motivation is same… drive revenue, but i think it’s a mischaractoration to phrase it like hiding increases. The motivation id no deceit- but generating nee revenue by monetizing things.
I think a decade ago someone at Disney noticed how well Spirit airlines was doing and convinced the board room to adopt their business model, offer a discounted admission price (which Disney decided not to do) and then charge extra for anything and everything you could slap a price tag on.

The problem with that model, as Spirit found out, is it only works until people catch on that they’re being nickel and dimed to death. Once they realize they’re ultimately paying as much, or more, for a lessor experience they look for alternatives.

The nickel and dime model worked amazingly well for Spirit, right up until it didn’t, and they’ve been struggling to survive ever since.

Once a company loses their reputation it’s nearly impossible to recover from it, hopefully Disney learns that lesson before it’s too late.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You left out credit card debt, and auto debt.
…I did that intentionally…I didn’t want to scare 25% of the people here who won’t be able to cope

But there’s about 25% of people who use parks to sub for whatever is missing and then come here and manifest by making unconditional excuses for documented bad management
 
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networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Observing the north bound Yankee-Jam today (that's the intersection of the Florida Parkway and I75 just South of Ocala) I wouldn't say that crowds are down for a Columbus day holiday week.
 

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