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October 2025 Price Increases

SamusAranX

Well-Known Member
I bought an Ikon Pass today. Pricing on the top end pass has gone from 1049 to 1519 since 2019. Just an interesting data point that Disney isn’t totally out front on its own.
As an avid snowboarder I felt this. Epic to me is a much better value but it’s still going up too. Eventually us peasants will be priced out
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
It seems like it would have made more sense to have a regular Star Wars hotel (complete with indoor pool) with a few special immersive events a year… maybe the location was prohibitive in terms of getting all the supplies needed for a hotel in and out of Hollywood Studios though. Assuming with the “cruise” model they had off time to stock up on everything.
 

monothingie

Dynamically Raising Prices Excites Me
Premium Member
Original Poster
It seems like it would have made more sense to have a regular Star Wars hotel (complete with indoor pool) with a few special immersive events a year… maybe the location was prohibitive in terms of getting all the supplies needed for a hotel in and out of Hollywood Studios though. Assuming with the “cruise” model they had off time to stock up on everything.
It was an echo chamber of focus groups and bad leadership that led them to this turd.

They had a marvelous track record of wonderfully themed hotels (Wilderness, AKL, Boardwalk, Beach, Yacht, Poly, PO) that they could have capitalized on to make a massive intricately detailed SW deluxe. But they don’t do that anymore because theming is expensive and difficult for Disney so the focus is on generic cookie cutters ( Reflections, Poly Tower, Riviera…)
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
I think it would have been completely empty…which is was undoubtedly trending to…and been the embodiment of how they all but destroyed the Appeal of IP genius bobs “masterpiece” $4,000,000,000 buy…

Every day…spun in SM and the source of scorn and ridicule. They couldn’t allow that to happen. So that’s why it was shut so fast. Smart move…in a way the only smart one here. They should have razed it though…huge mistake.

But anyway…been watching this Star Wars phenomenon for a bit…since it’s book of genesis…
And though I don’t think about it as much now (that’s a problem)…I think they might be looking at Waterloo with this Mandolorian thing? It best be better than that awful trailer or this may be the their final shot at regaining relevancy.

And though I tend to be a harbinger of destruction in everything…Star Wars was one of the weird exceptions

I never would have said that when Disney bought…10 years ago…or even 5 ago after they brutally and obviously tanked the sequels (most anticipated in Hollywood history)…

Something really seems different now…finality on the horizon? For the first time ever I doubt Star Wars resiliency…which has always been right up there with its parent corp’s now.

They might be at the edge…

Does that seem logical? As our Vulcan friend would ask? 🖖🏿
I actually feel the same way about Trek right now, in spite of the glut of products being produced for Paramount+. I really feel like neither CBS nor Disney have leadership now that really "gets" their respective sci-fi behemoths. Of course, I am far more passionate about Trek, so I have far more opinions about it as well, but I hate seeing what is happening to both franchises.

I've said it before, but I think one of the things Disney was not prepared to embrace was the fact that part of the appeal of Star Wars was its scarcity. For the movies, you had two trilogies that were 16 years apart. Every Star Wars movie was an event. And there was essentially no Star Wars, particularly live action Star Wars, on TV (unless you want to count the Holiday Special). Disney wanted to pump out one or two films a year, plus load up Disney+ with streaming offerings. It was too much.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
They had a marvelous track record of wonderfully themed hotels (Wilderness, AKL, Boardwalk, Beach, Yacht, Poly, PO) that they could have capitalized on to make a massive intricately detailed SW deluxe. But they don’t do that anymore because theming is expensive and difficult for Disney so the focus is on generic cookie cutters ( Reflections, Poly Tower, Riviera…)

I’m still kinda hopeful that they do a SW resort one day… bummed that it will be at least a decade from now if it ever happens though.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I actually feel the same way about Trek right now, in spite of the glut of products being produced for Paramount+. I really feel like neither CBS nor Disney have leadership now that really "gets" their respective sci-fi behemoths. Of course, I am far more passionate about Trek, so I have far more opinions about it as well, but I hate seeing what is happening to both franchises.

I've said it before, but I think one of the things Disney was not prepared to embrace was the fact that part of the appeal of Star Wars was its scarcity. For the movies, you had two trilogies that were 16 years apart. Every Star Wars movie was an event. And there was essentially no Star Wars, particularly live action Star Wars, on TV (unless you want to count the Holiday Special). Disney wanted to pump out one or two films a year, plus load up Disney+ with streaming offerings. It was too much.
I agree…I don’t think kurtzman or goldsmith have a clue…

So much potential and so little production…

The problem there…much like the other one we’re talking about…is they keep attempting to “modernize” the feel when what worked was that 90’s feel.

It wasn’t really “broke”…but Hollywood is arrogant and never believe that the old feel was the draw

Just my opinion
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Premium Member
I agree…I don’t think kurtzman or goldsmith have a clue…

So much potential and so little production…

The problem there…much like the other one we’re talking about…is they keep attempting to “modernize” the feel when what worked was that 90’s feel.

It wasn’t really “broke”…but Hollywood is arrogant and never believe that the old feel was the draw

Just my opinion

I think a lot of that is just the world today. Tech and specifically Social Media contribute to the disease.

Must have: new cupcake, new food offerings, new ride, new ride concept, new souvenir popcorn bucket, new land, new restaurant, new quick serve, new bar, new merchandise, and in general, new stuff…
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I think a lot of that is just the world today. Tech and specifically Social Media contribute to the disease.

Must have: new cupcake, new food offerings, new ride, new ride concept, new souvenir popcorn bucket, new land, new restaurant, new quick serve, new bar, new merchandise, and in general, new stuff…
Bajorans and cardassians…the most perfectly crafted cultural studies in sci fi history…

Prove me wrong 🤪
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Premium Member
Bajorans and cardassians…the most perfectly crafted cultural studies in sci fi history…

Prove me wrong 🤪

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MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I actually feel the same way about Trek right now, in spite of the glut of products being produced for Paramount+. I really feel like neither CBS nor Disney have leadership now that really "gets" their respective sci-fi behemoths. Of course, I am far more passionate about Trek, so I have far more opinions about it as well, but I hate seeing what is happening to both franchises.

I've said it before, but I think one of the things Disney was not prepared to embrace was the fact that part of the appeal of Star Wars was its scarcity. For the movies, you had two trilogies that were 16 years apart. Every Star Wars movie was an event. And there was essentially no Star Wars, particularly live action Star Wars, on TV (unless you want to count the Holiday Special). Disney wanted to pump out one or two films a year, plus load up Disney+ with streaming offerings. It was too much.
Worked for Marvel* so why not?!



*Well, until it didn't, anyway.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I actually feel the same way about Trek right now, in spite of the glut of products being produced for Paramount+. I really feel like neither CBS nor Disney have leadership now that really "gets" their respective sci-fi behemoths. Of course, I am far more passionate about Trek, so I have far more opinions about it as well, but I hate seeing what is happening to both franchises.

I've said it before, but I think one of the things Disney was not prepared to embrace was the fact that part of the appeal of Star Wars was its scarcity. For the movies, you had two trilogies that were 16 years apart. Every Star Wars movie was an event. And there was essentially no Star Wars, particularly live action Star Wars, on TV (unless you want to count the Holiday Special). Disney wanted to pump out one or two films a year, plus load up Disney+ with streaming offerings. It was too much.
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It's the Bob Way© - If one or two of something is special, then 25 of them is even more specialerererer. The missteps exhibited since Lucas sold out to the wolf in sheep's clothing are astounding.
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
Back in September I got an email from DIsney destinations with a pin code for DL park hoppers. 2 day park hopper with LL for 259.00. Seemed like a good deal so I made an impulsive decision and bought them. I made park reservations for a weekend in December.
Were all kind of busy this Fall so I thought about changing them to February and just paying the difference. The cost of 2 day park hopper in February with LL is 503.00 We'll stick with December, but I think this is my last trip ever.
 

dlfan1313

Active Member
I wonder how much of a market there is for that level of "immersion" to begin with. I get that I was not the target market for this particular product, being a casual Star Wars fan and not a hardcore devotee, but the immersion actually made me less likely to do it. I want a nice, entertaining experience during the day and then I want to come back to my completely unrelated, non-immersive hotel at night and unwind. I don't want to be surrounded by people playing characters when I want to call the front desk for some extra towels. Being involved in a fantasy environment and storyline 24/7 during a trip just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

(For the record, I am a rabid Star Trek fan, and if this were Trek-themed and offering to spend three days, 24 hours a day aboard the Enterprise, I still wouldn't be interested.)
I wonder if it would have done better as a traveling, standalone experience. I am a huge Star Wars fan, and the experience looked awesome to me, but I chose not to partake. Not only because of the absurd cost, though that was a major factor, but mainly because of the time it would take up to get my money's worth out of it. Maybe they could have paired if they cruises it would have been more successful?
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
I look at indicators like the latest Prime day sales figures or home remodeling projects, Home Depot’s latest earnings or just the other day, CarMax.

People are not spending. The only way you continue to raise prices into these type of headwinds are:

1: You are delusional

2: You are counting on affluent customers to continue to spend regardless of the price increase or economic environment.


Can Disney parks survive on the Upper Class alone?

I hope Bob has checked the math twice, because we are about to find out.
 

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