Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

This is a logical fallacy. There are plenty of actors who don't have such skeletons in their closet.

That you know of.... Everyone has some skeleton in their closet, and someone will always be outraged by such things.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That you know of.... Everyone has some skeleton in their closet, and someone will always be outraged by such things.

I agreed with the previous comment but had a similar thought, there’s been many “squeaky clean” Hollywood celebs who we later found out were complete degenerates… they don’t call it Hollyweird for nothing.

Still probably best to avoid the ones you absolutely know are questionable though.

 

[TP2000]

The most delicate way to put it is: he likes very, very young women - many who are technically girls - and he likes them in an unusually aggressive, controlling way.

A seasoned tour manager warned a few of us once, very early in my career, at music festival Leto was also performing at, to never be alone with him or his people.

It wasn’t the only time I heard this, or saw why.

He’s accused of many bad things.

Cripes. That's ridiculous.

But as a very wise woman on the Burbank payroll once proudly smirked... "That's Hollywood, baby!"

 

[Disney Irish]

I agreed with the previous comment but had a similar thought, there’s been many “squeaky clean” Hollywood celebs who we later found out were complete degenerates… they don’t call it Hollyweird for nothing.

Still probably best to avoid the ones you know are questionable though.

Hindsight is always 20/20 though.

So its hard to know what can become problematic later. As you said its not called "Hollyweird" for nothing.

 

[LittleBuford]

That you know of.... Everyone has some skeleton in their closet, and someone will always be outraged by such things.

I mean, yes, we all make mistakes and have secrets. But there are different levels of controversy at play here. Sexual impropriety is a very specific kind of offence, and one that, today at least, is (rightly) viewed as more serious than others.

 

[TP2000]

Happy Columbus Day, gang! Is this a good time to mention that Leif Erikson got here first? Or at least didn't walk here?

Overseas Box Office is now in for Tron: Ares from this past weekend. It's not good. The movie has opened in all markets, except China, so this is it as far as momentum overseas. $27 Million total from all overseas markets for Weekend #1.

Which gives Tron: Ares a $60 Million global opening weekend. It's going to be very, very tough to get it to $450 Million and a best-case-scenario breakeven point.

 

[Disney Irish]

I mean, yes, we all make mistakes and have secrets. But there are different levels of controversy at play here. Sexual impropriety is a very specific kind of offence, and one that, today at least, is (rightly) viewed as more serious than others.

Understood, and don't disagree, but again this is why we can't always just look at it through the lens of today in 2025 as again hindsight will always be 20/20. And it probably goes without saying, I'm sure if done over today Disney never would have attached Leto to the project.

 

[TP2000]

Google says that filming on Tron: Ares began in January, 2024 and wrapped up later that summer.

Was Mr. Leto's name attached to the general state of Hollywood moral ethics by January of '24? Or was this stuff that was finally admitted to publicly after 2024?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when Disney would have reasonably known of Mr. Leto's seedy reputation, for the next time someone in Burbank's executive ranks tries to lecture us about our own moral failings in their eyes.

 

[DKampy]

As far as I am aware the allegations on Jared Leto happened within the last year…correct me if I am wrong on that… Tron was well in production at that point

Also so far these are only rumors and allegations from what I have heard…despite what some officials believe everyone living in the USA is entitled to due process

I am sure If Disney heard the allegations before production began they would of gone in a different direction to avoid controversy… but this was not a Kevin Spacey or Ezra Miller situation as it is all just speculation at this point no matter how suspicious it is… I am sure Leto will having a tough time finding work now no matter the studio

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Google says that filming on Tron: Ares began in January, 2024 and wrapped up later that summer.

Was Mr. Leto's name attached to the general state of Hollywood moral ethics by January of '24? Or was this stuff that was finally admitted to publicly after 2024?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when Disney would have reasonably known of Mr. Leto's seedy reputation, for the next time someone in Burbank's executive ranks tries to lecture us about our own moral failings in their eyes.

The reports of inappropriate behavior with underage girls began around 2005, the more serious assault accusations didn’t happen til summer of 2025 though. (And I believe all involve incidents that happened in the late 00s to early 10s)

They had to have known he had a questionable past before they hired him but they probably thought it was all in the past, I don’t think they could have foreseen his past becoming headline news again right before their movie released though.

 

[Tha Realest]

The point is that while reported on previously it was still mostly out of the public consciousness, I don't believe it hit a crescendo until this year.

As far as I am aware the allegations on Jared Leto happened within the last year…correct me if I am wrong on that… Tron was well in production at that point

Also so far these are only rumors and allegations from what I have heard…despite what some officials believe everyone living in the USA is entitled to due process

I am sure If Disney heard the allegations before production began they would of gone in a different direction to avoid controversy… but this was not a Kevin Spacey or Ezra Miller situation as it is all just speculation at this point no matter how suspicious it is… I am sure Leto will having a tough time finding work now no matter the studio

We posted stories about him on these threads in 2022. His abhorrent behavior towards costars was known soon after his work on Suicide Squad (2017?). None of this is new, and we’re just randos on a message board.

 

[Tha Realest]

That you know of.... Everyone has some skeleton in their closet, and someone will always be outraged by such things.

That’s pretty disgusting to suggest “everyone” has done things on the level of Jared Leto, or that reasonable minded people shouldn’t be outraged by such conduct.

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s pretty disgusting to suggest “everyone” has done things on the level of Jared Leto, or that reasonable minded people shouldn’t be outraged by such conduct.

Did I say everyone had something on the same or similar levels? Or that people can’t be outraged by his actions? No, so stop with the faux outrage here as you knew what I meant. There is a new scandal coming out every other week with someone, so let’s not play like people in and out of Hollywood don’t have lots of skeleton’s they don’t want revealed.

 

[coffeefan]

Well anyway. A costly mistake most likely. Probably a nail in the Tron coffin.

Hope that prevents the Tron ride from going to Disneyland. I used to want it, but it would look too out of place at DL.

 

[TP2000]

Hope that prevents the Tron ride from going to Disneyland. I used to want it, but it would look too out of place at DL.

Agreed. And looking at these box office results, I think it's safe to say that Disneyland's Tomorrowland can remain stagnant and abandoned for at least another decade or two. Who is even counting at this point?

 

[Prince-1]

Also we all should be supporting a movie IP that was home grown at Disney and not acquired.

I am not a fan of Tron but I wished it killed at the box office. Unfortunately it did not so maybe they can try again in another 15 years.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

In Disney's defense on Leto, and lets not get off into things that are not supposed to be talked about here, most of this came out after he was already contracted for the projected. And its very likely he had a pay or play contract which would means they would have to pay him anyways. So I'm sure they hoped they could manage any fall out from it in the short term.

They also may have “learned” from the Johnny Depp situation. I think they regret cutting him off before his situation played itself out.

Also we all should be supporting a movie IP that was home grown at Disney and not acquired.

This doesn’t not factor into my moviegoing.

The point is that while reported on previously it was still mostly out of the public consciousness, I don't believe it hit a crescendo until this year.

Maybe they should have just pushed it back a year.

 

[DKampy]

We posted stories about him on these threads in 2022. His abhorrent behavior towards costars was known soon after his work on Suicide Squad (2017?). None of this is new, and we’re just randos on a message board.

I never said people did not post rumors on this site…. But all was rumors at that point… and I Don’t based my movie going on unconfirmed rumors….still not confirmed… that is why the use of the word “alleged”

All of this is beside the fact Jared Leto is not the reason this movie underperformed… Tron is just not that big of an IP… it has always been niche among a few people that grew up in the 80’s… I was surprised early projections were in the 40’s

 

[Disney Irish]

We posted stories about him on these threads in 2022. His abhorrent behavior towards costars was known soon after his work on Suicide Squad (2017?). None of this is new, and we’re just randos on a message board.

Did you? "stories", as in multiple? Because the only thing I remember is you posted that same Newsweek article you just posted here, as in one story, which didn't really say much beyond he was very method and creepy, again par for the course with Hollyweird.

Now maybe you're a "person is automatically guilty once rumors come out" type person. But I was always taught that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And again while I don't condone any of his actions whether real or not, this is all still rumor and alleged at this point. For example if there really was inappropriate behavior with underage girls you'd think he'd be brought up on charges at this point, especially in this day and age with certain lists making the headlines.

All of this is to say that again while Disney maybe should have done a deeper dive into him none of what has come out recently was in the public consciousness until this year. So you may want to try to connect the dots and claim you were talking about it for years, but in reality it was not a huge story until 2025.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Imagine how Hasbro and Amazon are feeling about the upcoming Masters of the Universe movie with Leto as Skeletor…