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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Vegas Disney Fan

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The most delicate way to put it is: he likes very, very young women - many who are technically girls - and he likes them in an unusually aggressive, controlling way.

A seasoned tour manager warned a few of us once, very early in my career, at music festival Leto was also performing at, to never be alone with him or his people.

It wasn’t the only time I heard this, or saw why.
It’s interesting what Disney finds acceptable and not acceptable, filming near a genocide site for Mulan and then thanking the people who did it? All good! Hiring actors with serious SA allegations? All good! Say something controversial? Cancelled and blacklisted!
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
It’s interesting what Disney finds acceptable and not acceptable, filming near a genocide site for Mulan and then thanking the people who did it? All good! Hiring actors with serious SA allegations? All good! Say something controversial? Cancelled and blacklisted!
In Disney's defense on Leto, and lets not get off into things that are not supposed to be talked about here, most of this came out after he was already contracted for the projected. And its very likely he had a pay or play contract which would means they would have to pay him anyways. So I'm sure they hoped they could manage any fall out from it in the short term.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
In Disney's defense on Leto, and lets not get off into things that are not supposed to be talked about here, most of this came out after he was already contracted for the projected. And its very likely he had a pay or play contract which would means they would have to pay him anyways. So I'm sure they hoped they could manage any fall out from it in the short term.
Likely true but I suspect it would have cost them less in the long run to reshoot his scenes than they lost in sales.

The Flash (DC) had a similar situation and IMHO made the same mistake, with something this controversial I think you have to err on the side of caution and recast the role, even if it’s expensive.
 

brideck

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In Disney's defense on Leto, and lets not get off into things that are not supposed to be talked about here, most of this came out after he was already contracted for the projected. And its very likely he had a pay or play contract which would means they would have to pay him anyways. So I'm sure they hoped they could manage any fall out from it in the short term.

Right. To corroborate the timeline on this, although it may have been an open secret, allegations didn't really hit the public sphere until June 2025. So any impact to Leto's career re: casting decisions will happen from here on out. For example, he'll be Skeletor in next year's Masters of the Universe, but that was also cast and shot before any of this came out in the mainstream news.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Likely true but I suspect it would have cost them less in the long run to reshoot his scenes than they lost in sales.

The Flash (DC) had a similar situation and IMHO made the same mistake, with something this controversial I think you have to err on the side of caution and recast the role, even if it’s expensive.
However that would have likely doubled the budget, as not to give much away of the movie he is in at least half the movie. I mean he is the Ares of Tron: Ares after all. Plus he still would have been paid anyways.

So the cost analysis side of things figures it cheaper to just go ahead than try to reshoot around him.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Right. To corroborate the timeline on this, although it may have been an open secret, allegations didn't really hit the public sphere until June 2025. So any impact to Leto's career re: casting decisions will happen from here on out. For example, he'll be Skeletor in next year's Masters of the Universe, but that was also cast and shot before any of this came out in the mainstream news.
True, and from what I understand it was actually Leto himself who push to get this project greenlit anyways. He would have been tied to it no matter what.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Right. To corroborate the timeline on this, although it may have been an open secret, allegations didn't really hit the public sphere until June 2025. So any impact to Leto's career re: casting decisions will happen from here on out. For example, he'll be Skeletor in next year's Masters of the Universe, but that was also cast and shot before any of this came out in the mainstream news.
Not quite. His sexual misconduct was publicly reported in 2022.

https://www.newsweek.com/jared-leto...-resurface-after-photo-olivia-rodrigo-1694924
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think it's less about public perception and more about Disney's decision-making. With such rumours flying around several years ago, they shouldn't have hired him.
As stated above though, Leto is who got the project off the ground in the first place back with Disney in 2017. He likely had it in his contract when they began working on the project back in 2017 that he would be paid whether it was made or not, ie a pay or play contract. So Disney didn't "hire" him just a couple year ago, it was contracted for this back in 2017.
 

LittleBuford

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As stated above though, Leto is who got the project off the ground in the first place back with Disney in 2017. He likely had it in his contract when they began working on the project back in 2017 that he would be paid whether it was made or not, ie a pay or play contract. So Disney didn't "hire" him just a couple year ago, it was contracted for this back in 2017.
OK, but the allegations were already out there even then.

 

Stripes

Premium Member
Likely true but I suspect it would have cost them less in the long run to reshoot his scenes than they lost in sales.

The Flash (DC) had a similar situation and IMHO made the same mistake, with something this controversial I think you have to err on the side of caution and recast the role, even if it’s expensive.
Frankly, I think the situations are quite different. The available evidence to support the Jared Leto allegations are weak to non-existent whereas the Ezra Miller situation had moved beyond mere allegations to demonstrable facts.

Allegations alone do not prove someone’s guilt.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
OK, but the allegations were already out there even then.

Look I'm not defending the guys actions, and maybe Disney should have done a deeper dive into him and that may have turned up things. But at the time that article you posted doesn't indicate anything about any of the subsequent allegations. Being a "creep" on-set doesn't equate to what was alleged as he is known to go full method, which was even acknowledged in the article.

Now hindsight maybe you want to say there was a pattern, but that again wasn't known at the time, and as was just stated doesn't prove someone's guilt.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Look I'm not defending the guys actions, and maybe Disney should have done a deeper dive into him and that may have turned up things. But at the time that article you posted doesn't indicate anything about any of the subsequent allegations. Being a "creep" on-set doesn't equate to what was alleged as he is known to go full method, which was even acknowledged in the article.

Now hindsight maybe you want to say there was a pattern, but that again wasn't known at the time, and as was just stated doesn't prove someone's guilt.
I have no interest in the actor or the film under discussion. I'm just weighing in on the question of Disney's judgement in this matter. I'm not saying they did anything terrible by hiring him when they did, but there were, it seems, enough warning signs out there that they might have rethought the collaboration at some point before the project had gone too far.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
OK, but the allegations were already out there even then.

His allegations go back to the early 2000s, he’s been known as a creep who likes young girls as long as he’s been famous.

No one’s brought undeniable proof but when there’s 20 years of non stop allegations Disney should have known better.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I have no interest in the actor or the film under discussion. I'm just weighing in on the question of Disney's judgement in this matter. I'm not saying they did anything terrible by hiring him when they did, but there were, it seems, enough warning signs out there that they might have rethought the collaboration at some point before the project had gone too far.
Unfortunately if you were to look for "warning signs" you basically would have to stop any production coming out of Hollywood. Actors are a weird bunch, and if you look hard enough you can find something that someone finds questionable with everyone.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately if you were to look for "warning signs" you basically would have to stop any production coming out of Hollywood. Actors are a weird bunch, and if you look hard enough you can find something that someone finds questionable with everyone.
This is a logical fallacy. There are plenty of actors who don't have such skeletons in their closet.
 

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