Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[D.Silentu]

Note that the biography for Tiana (visible in one of the tweets you shared) likewise has her avoiding discussion of anything that might be construed as controversial (stuff do with race, Hurricane Katrina, etc.).

Well shoot, I really wanted to hear Tiana's thoughts on Hurricane Katrina.

 

[waltography]

No wonder it took a long time for someone to leak this after all the nonstop talk of censorship. Sounds like a very simple concept; they just wanted performers to avoid talking about religion and hell to guests.

I don't know, I had a spirited conversation with Esmeralda in Fantasyland the other day about the persecution of religious minorities.

 

[chadwpalm]

Man.....and here I am only talking to Goofy about hot diggity dogs.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I will echo the comments that this document was a fascinating read and gives me more respect for the friends that have to inhabit and take in all of that info, prepared responses, etc.

I'm grateful that after much talk of the documents, said documents actually appeared. Not sure who specifically to thank for that, but good on them.

I'm absolutely judging the boneheads that go up and ask Tiana about Hurricane Katrina.

 

[Agent H]

I'm absolutely judging the boneheads that go up and ask Tiana about Hurricane Katrina.

That’s not even the weirdest thing they get asked. Of course There’s the (expected) people trying to get them to break character and I’ve read internet comments from people saying they’re cast members saying that they’ve been asked very not family friendly questions….

 

[PiratesMansion]

That’s not even the weirdest thing they get asked. Of course There’s the (expected) people trying to get them to break character and I’ve read internet comments from people saying they’re cast members saying that they’ve been asked very not family friendly questions….

Oh I'm sure, that was just what stuck out to me.

The very fact that people are asking a fictional character from a film set in the 1920s about Hurricane Katrina is just kind of sad and funny to me.

Perhaps she gets that question more in Florida, given the comparative proximity to New Orleans. Either way, woof.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Well shoot, I really wanted to hear Tiana's thoughts on Hurricane Katrina.

I wonder how the tariffs will affect her business.

 

[Touchdown]

I wonder how the tariffs will affect her business.

The Smoot-Hawley tariffs will likely hit very hard and combined with the dust bowl and Great Depression cause her to lose her company and have to move to Maldonia.

 

[Figments Friend]

And yet, at WDW the good Doctor is still on stage during MNSSHP singing ‘ I’ve Got Friends On The Other Side’ and talking about shadowy friends with the Sanderson Sisters…..and still dressed in his original, now apparently taboo, attire.

So he is thankfully still around conjuring delightfully.

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[Dear Prudence]

Off a POV from yesterday, the waterfall after the splashdown is still turned off and the rocks are still neon orange. I truly don't have words for this. If the waterfall effect isn't returning, can they at least paint it brown and throw some moss on it?
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Sigh, like I KNEW shiz like this was going to happen, but I expected it to run nicer a little longer than this. I didn't expect Tiana with an exposed wrist of her wires showing or them posting a reel to their own Instagram account featuring busted/frozen animatronics. Good God, how....sad.

 

[Professortango1]

I think the waterfall is also connected to the waterwheel. I know I typically see them both not working or both working.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Oh I'm sure, that was just what stuck out to me.

The very fact that people are asking a fictional character from a film set in the 1920s about Hurricane Katrina is just kind of sad and funny to me.

Perhaps she gets that question more in Florida, given the comparative proximity to New Orleans. Either way, woof.

This kind of stuff makes me lose all faith in humanity, ngl.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Seems like adding him to the ride is doable. Just play the music and don’t play all the lyrics.

Oh, please. This is the company that pulled any hint of Zip a Dee Doo Dah from their parks- even instrumental versions because of a tenuous connection to a minstrel song that's never been verified.

When the tune Turkey in the Straw, used in Steamboat Willie and is a part of Toontown's area music loop, is the literal tune the minstrel song was sung to. But that's okay. Since it's not Zip.

At a certain point when you scrub everything squeaky clean to make sure it won't offend anyone, you end up making something boring and bland that appeals to no one. It's how we ended up with TBA- they spent so much time trying to make a ride that could withstand any criticism- that they made something so bland and generic that no one is happy.

Making the Laughin' Place portion voodoo and psychedelic, with a final lift that is actually scary would have been amazing.

 

[Jedi14]

they spent so much time trying to make a ride that could withstand any criticism- that they made something so bland and generic that no one is happy.

Why are we still using this narrative that no one likes TBA?

 

[Professortango1]

Why are we still using this narrative that no one likes TBA?

I ride it because the infrastructure, but I can't say that I like TBA. Moreso I like the bones of Splash. And because I never wait over 20 minutes.

 

[mickEblu]

Oh, please. This is the company that pulled any hint of Zip a Dee Doo Dah from their parks- even instrumental versions because of a tenuous connection to a minstrel song that's never been verified.

When the tune Turkey in the Straw, used in Steamboat Willie and is a part of Toontown's area music loop, is the literal tune the minstrel song was sung to. But that's okay. Since it's not Zip.

At a certain point when you scrub everything squeaky clean to make sure it won't offend anyone, you end up making something boring and bland that appeals to no one. It's how we ended up with TBA- they spent so much time trying to make a ride that could withstand any criticism- that they made something so bland and generic that no one is happy.

Making the Laughin' Place portion voodoo and psychedelic, with a final lift that is actually scary would have been amazing.

Yup that’s exactly what happened.

Yeah it would have been really cool and although it wouldn’t solve all the issues with the attraction I think it would help a lot and go a long way in changing peoples perception of this snooze fest.

 

[Professortango1]

Or we can take it as a sign that he was never "banished" in the first place and it was just a creative decision to leave him out of the attraction because the story they crafted dictated it.

Other way around. Their trepidation about using Facilier in this new permanent change, as well as other controversies from the film, dictated what the story couldn't be. And that's why we have a sequel attraction with two weak plots.

 

[Disney Irish]

Other way around. Their trepidation about using Facilier in this new permanent change, as well as other controversies from the film, dictated what the story couldn't be. And that's why we have a sequel attraction with two weak plots.

So you're responding to a post from 4 weeks ago why? A lot has been discussed since then.

Also what you're saying here is not really anything that hasn't already been discussed in the last 4 weeks (or for months and years before it), which you were part of. So again why go back 4 weeks to respond to a post and not anything more recent?

Also also, you're not really saying anything that I don't really disagree with. They crafted a story that they wanted to have happen after the movie. The reasons for that are probably many, some of which we've probably never even thought of, but I wouldn't call it fear or trepidation, but use whatever word will make you feel better. In the end I honestly don't really care all that much, I've long said (and you can probably find quotes from years ago on it if they haven't been purged) that I thought the attraction should be set after the movie not include Facilier because it makes the most sense if not telling a book report.

I however don't still subscribe to the claim that he was "banished", never did and never will, and the recent reveal of those documents proves there is/was no banishment of the character. Only an attempt to stave off potential issues related to questions from guests that may come up, which is probably good.

 

[mickEblu]

So you're responding to a post from 4 weeks ago why? A lot has been discussed since then.

Also what you're saying here is not really anything that hasn't already been discussed in the last 4 weeks (or for months and years before it), which you were part of. So again why go back 4 weeks to respond to a post and not anything more recent?

Also also, you're not really saying anything that I don't really disagree with. They crafted a story that they wanted to have happen after the movie. The reasons for that are probably many, some of which we've probably never even thought of, but I wouldn't call it fear or trepidation, but use whatever word will make you feel better. In the end I honestly don't really care all that much, I've long said (and you can probably find quotes from years ago on it if they haven't been purged) that I thought the attraction should be set after the movie not include Facilier because it makes the most sense if not telling a book report.

I however don't still subscribe to the claim that he was "banished", never did and never will, and the recent reveal of those documents proves there is/was no banishment of the character. Only an attempt to stave off potential issues related to questions from guests that may come up, which is probably good.

lol my guy, nobody said he was banished except you. How could he banished if he’s still at the parks?

 

[Disney Irish]

lol my guy, nobody said he was banished except you. How could he banished if he’s still at the parks?

Look, maybe I mistook what you said 4 weeks ago when this all started. But your original post made it really seem like you believed he had been in the process of being "banished' or "cancelled" or whatever else, ie actively trying to be removed from the parks, and that his inclusion in the concept art for Villains was a surprise because of that. And the fact that you've brought up many times in the last 4 weeks how its real easy to just remove a M&G seems to indicate that you sort of actually still do believe it even if you don't want to admit it. And I wasn’t the only one who talked about the rumors of him being “banished”, if you go back and look 4 weeks ago there were other posters who talked about those rumors, so it’s clear some thought he had been “banished” and that is the reason for not including him.

Also I'm responding to someone who is quoting a post from 4 weeks ago where I discuss it. So I'm just responding to that. Take it up with the poster who decided to quote an old post.