MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[FettFan]

They better fill this in soon or it's just gonna keep filling back up...lol

Rivers Refilled: Rivers of America Draining Faces Continued Setbacks Following Heavy Rain

Following heavy rain, the Rivers of America has refilled in Magic Kingdom as Walt Disney World attempts to make progress on demolition

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This is "Rocket Rods" level of boneheadedness.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Interesting that Walt didn't care about his golden city idea being turned into a theme park that got clowned on the Simpsons but he REALLY cared about a planter and broken lighting. Damn that mischievous Walt!

I don't know what Walt would think about the ugly planter and broken in ground lighting, but to me, these are failures.

I would guess (and its only a guess) Walt would not find these acceptable.

Its fun to think of "Walt's curse" as a real thing, but in reality we are seeing genuine failures by Disney.

I know Disney is trying to create new, good things, but they are failing.

 

[Disstevefan1]

This is "Rocket Rods" level of boneheadedness.

Lets see what happens in 3 to 5 years when they open this.

I have posted before, this cars thing could be WDW's Rocket Rods.

 

[Purduevian]

Lets see what happens in 3 to 5 years when they open this.

I have posted before, this cars thing could be WDW's Rocket Rods.

What exactly do you mean by this? A ride that destroys an area of the park but closes quickly?

Disney doesn't really make "disasters" of rides anymore. The certainly make rides that aren't great, but I think the last time a ride opened and closed within 3 years was Luigi's flying tires in 2012-2015.

As much as people on here will hate it, Road Rally will almost certainly be popular as every thrill ride with a lowish height requirement is at WDW.

 

[Disstevefan1]

What exactly do you mean by this? A ride that destroys an area of the park but closes quickly?

Disney doesn't really make "disasters" of rides anymore. The certainly make rides that aren't great, but I think the last time a ride opened and closed within 3 years was Luigi's flying tires in 2012-2015.

As much as people on here will hate it, Road Rally will almost certainly be popular as every thrill ride with a lowish height requirement is at WDW.

OK, ok, will this cars thing be as much of a disaster as Rocket rods?? I HOPE NOT but we don't know till we see what happens.

But this cars thing could be "WDW's Rocket Rods" if it fails.


The one good thing for Disney is they do still have a strong customer base that will defend even their disasters.

 

[jah4955]

The one good thing for Disney is they do still have a strong customer base that will defend even their disasters.

No one, I mean absolutely no one, has enjoyed the goodwill that Disney developed. But I still fear they have been squandering it away in numerous ways. I remember reading in 2019 (can't remember source), "Disney will be the only Dow company that will still exist in 100 years." I agreed with them then. I still want to agree, but I don't feel that way so much now. Look how fast so very many far-and-ahead leaders and standard-bearers such as Sears and Kodak went from "100 to (virtually) zero." I realize Disney will forever be in this "tightrope" act of placating shareholders and staying relevant, but I feel they've shot themselves in the foot with many of their fails, from which I hope (& believe) they can still recover.

 

[Andrew M]

This is "Rocket Rods" level of boneheadedness.

Any open trench will collect water after heavy rainfall, this happens on literally every construction site. I'm not sure how this is news or an example of "boneheadedness", I assure you additional pumping of rainwater after heavy storms is something the construction company accounted for while planning on working in Florida in September.

 

[Timothy_Q]

This is "Rocket Rods" level of boneheadedness.

Yeah I can't believe current managent doesn't control the weather the way Walt used to

There were never any weather related obstacles during his time

 

[WorldExplorer]

It doesn't need to actually be destructive or a sign of poor planning for it to be funny.

Like when lightning hit the tentacle monster in the middle of World Showcase Lagoon. Totally natural and not really avoidable, but very funny.

 

[FettFan]

Yeah I can't believe current managent doesn't control the weather the way Walt used to

There were never any weather related obstacles during his time

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

They’re building a Florida attraction based on plans designed in California from the perspective of a California climate.

And that’s why I drew the comparison to Rocket Rods; they were so worried about getting the project done on time and shaving the budget that they tried to shove a heavy high-speed attraction onto the 30-year-old track of a slow moving, weight-distributed attraction.

It’s basic engineering but they keep missing it.
I’m fairly certain it’s the same mentality that caused Disco Yeti.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

They’re building a Florida attraction based on plans designed in California from the perspective of a California climate.

And that’s why I drew the comparison to Rocket Rods; they were so worried about getting the project done on time and shaving the budget that they tried to shove a heavy high-speed attraction onto the 30-year-old track of a slow moving, weight-distributed attraction.

It’s basic engineering but they keep missing it.
I’m fairly certain it’s the same mentality that caused Disco Yeti.

If this were true they wouldn’t have sought a water management permit and be working on that right now. There is no benefit to lying.

 

[Andrew M]

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

They’re building a Florida attraction based on plans designed in California from the perspective of a California climate.

And that’s why I drew the comparison to Rocket Rods; they were so worried about getting the project done on time and shaving the budget that they tried to shove a heavy high-speed attraction onto the 30-year-old track of a slow moving, weight-distributed attraction.

It’s basic engineering but they keep missing it.
I’m fairly certain it’s the same mentality that caused Disco Yeti.

While I'm not defending the removal of ROA nor is it a topic for this thread, how could you make any of these statements from a photo of rainwater filling an empty trench? They could be vastly improving the drainage in the finished product and this would still occur during this early phase of construction.

 

[Timothy_Q]

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

They’re building a Florida attraction based on plans designed in California from the perspective of a California climate.

And that’s why I drew the comparison to Rocket Rods; they were so worried about getting the project done on time and shaving the budget that they tried to shove a heavy high-speed attraction onto the 30-year-old track of a slow moving, weight-distributed attraction.

It’s basic engineering but they keep missing it.
I’m fairly certain it’s the same mentality that caused Disco Yeti.

None of what you just said is based on any factual information we have, but sure

 

[Incomudro]

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

They’re building a Florida attraction based on plans designed in California from the perspective of a California climate.

And that’s why I drew the comparison to Rocket Rods; they were so worried about getting the project done on time and shaving the budget that they tried to shove a heavy high-speed attraction onto the 30-year-old track of a slow moving, weight-distributed attraction.

It’s basic engineering but they keep missing it.
I’m fairly certain it’s the same mentality that caused Disco Yeti.

You seriously think nobody took Florida into account?
You did, but no one designing, engineering, and issuing permits for this did?

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

You seriously think nobody took Florida into account?
You did, but no one designing, engineering, and issuing permits for this did?

The neighbors across the street never do

On a serious note, yeah this is crazy to think that this would be overlooked especially considering the permits they need to remove waterways in Florida. Obviously, a ton of research went into this.

 

[LSLS]

You seriously think nobody took Florida into account?
You did, but no one designing, engineering, and issuing permits for this did?

I agree there's no way they don't have a drainage system plan, but to be fair, Toy Story Land does exist as far as them considering Florida.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I agree there's no way they don't have a drainage system plan, but to be fair, Toy Story Land does exist as far as them considering Florida.

Shade isn’t a regulated requirement of a project design. Buildings don’t risk failure because of a lack of shade. Toy Story Land was also significantly designed in Florida. The area development design was done by an Orlando company.

 

[danlb_2000]

You miss the point; these bozos never took the weather and the fact that Florida’s RoA served as a rainwater drainage system into account.

The 1000's of pages of water management permit documentation would say otherwise.

 

[Purduevian]

I'm amazing how often people think a billion dollar company "missed" something routine. They didn't "miss" shade in toy story land, they decided it wasn't worth the budget. They didn't "miss" the fact that it rains in FL in September in a construction timeline.

Did they miss on Rocket rods and the Yeti? You mean the 1 of a kind, customized, prototype technology that had never been done before? Yeah they miss on stuff like that sometimes.

 

[Timothy_Q]

The way people here love to think they know more about construction than the actual construction companies handling these jobs is always so funny to me