MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

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celluloid

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Chi84 said:
So it’s beneficial for Disney and gives guests a good option.
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Beneficial to operations, throughput and number of sales.(someone hungry in the oark can now submit an order before changing their mind to eat off property or just waiting to eat later)
No real gsats showing too positive. Indifferent there. So more self serving.
But it is great marketing. Numbers of sales and AoV all up.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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celluloid said:
Beneficial to operations, throughput and number of sales.
No real gsats showing too positive. Indifferent there. So more self serving.
But it is great marketing.
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What do the gsats show about mobile ordering? Do you have access to them and when are they from?

I’m only asking because I know there on people on these boards who have access to that type of information.
 
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celluloid

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Some thoughts on expectations - walk around new fantasyland. That’s kind of what we should expect. The fancy rockwork is there. The waterfalls are there. It’s not “bad” - in fact several places look quite nice, especially at night.

But I’ve yet to see any current imagineers (post Joe and Kevin projects) able to accomplish what the 1st and 2nd generations did.

Look at this art from Herb Ryman…. View attachment 872644
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I think what Rolly Crump said holds most true. Disneyland(parks) have lost their handmade touch and attitudes.

In a sense it is very formulaic and safe. That feeling even at the MK is leaving rapidly.
 
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celluloid

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Chi84 said:
What do the gsats show about mobile ordering? Do you have access to them and when are they from?

I’m only asking because I know there on people on these boards who have access to that type of information.
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Marketing analysis. Results are good for profits but gsat feedback are negligible. They are considered a pinchpoint when it is when it is mobile only, which some leadership at Disney and Universal are starting to realize...slowly.
AoV and sales themselves are up, which is most important.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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celluloid said:
Marketing analysis. Results are good for profits but gsat feedback are negligible. They are considered a pinchpoint when it is when it is mobile only, which some leadership at Disney and Universal are starting to realize...slowly.
AoV and sales themselves are up, which is most important.
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I don’t quite understand what you mean by “marketing analysis.” Do you work for Disney and have access to their GSAT results?

Or is that your background and are you talking about mobile-ordering in general?
 
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DisneyHead123

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phillip9698 said:
I hate that people place the blame of current Disney disappointments on the engineers.

They are doing what is asked of them and budgeted for. If management doesn’t want something it doesn’t matter what level of talent is underneath them.

But it’s always easier to blame the workers I guess.
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I definitely don’t blame the Imagineers in terms of their dedication or talent. As an outsider looking in, I do sometimes wonder if there’s been a loss of institutional knowledge over time. Or maybe not - it may be all about expectations and budgets. I don’t know and I’m not invested in one answer over the other, but I am somewhat curious about it.

In terms of positives - I think recent Disney excels in the area of technology, and should be applauded for that. I get all weepy about what humankind has accomplished when I watch Disney documentaries, it’s really amazing. I think they’re branching out in new directions and trying new things, which is great. I think their use of lighting at night is a newish phenomenon and looks great. And I think they make things that are quite lovely, if sometimes a little nondescript (Usually… CommuniCore Hall is more than “a little” nondescript. But in general.)

In terms of criticisms - I sometimes just wonder if the days of truly amazing design intricacy are behind us for the foreseeable future. I have a hard time imagining something like New Orleans Square, World Showcase, or Animal Kingdom being built today. Or for rides - I have a hard time seeing something like Pirates, Mansion, or Splash being built today.

Not that intricacy of design is the be-all end-all. I’ll be honest, I’m pretty basic, if you make a new lounge and serve me a cocktail with one of those weird fog bubbles on top, I’ll be pretty happy. Add a seasonal sorcerer’s hat dessert and I’m thrilled, lol. But things like all the rock work over building architecture - yeah, I am kinda curious where that comes from. Maybe the knowledge of how to build that kind of thing is too esoteric these days, or maybe it’s budget and other concerns, like guests damaging the buildings.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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celluloid said:
No.
Yes and yes.
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Okay thanks. There’s a world of difference between mobile ordering at a place like your local McDonald’s and mobile ordering at WDW.

It really is unique in so many ways that I think general stats would be unpersuasive.
I don’t care enough to do it but if someone else wanted to start a thread on the issue it could be interesting.

But we’re exasperating the posters in this cars thread.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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Disgruntled Walt said:
What is the ride system for this attraction going to be? Test Track? Something new?
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I think if it was test track they would use cars that actually resemble cars.

The vehicle design is a real head scratcher for me. The art that we have seen so far is obviously just illustrative. If it really is 4 per vehicle - I’m guessing the capacity will be pretty low so I hope it’s actually 6 or 8.
 
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celluloid

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I think if it was test track they would use cars that actually resemble cars.

The vehicle design is a real head scratcher for me. The art that we have seen so far is obviously just illustrative. If it really is 4 per vehicle - I’m guessing the capacity will be pretty low so I hope it’s actually 6 or 8.
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6 I think is more likely than 8. Presuming the ride system once shown is the same partnership.
 
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Figments Friend

Figments Friend

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TrainsOfDisney said:
That’s a satire / clickbait page.

And one that will resort to extremely poor taste. They said they were scrapping the 614 right after Ross Rowland died. I don’t mind satire and humor but that’s really uncalled for.

(Ross was a legend in the steam train preservation world and passed away recently after a very quick battle with cancer. To tie this back to Disney…. The 614 locomotive is at Strasburg - the same company that rebuilds the WDW locomotives).
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Thank you.
I have deleted the original post , as I don’t want people to be misled.


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Gusey

Gusey

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Disgruntled Walt said:
What is the ride system for this attraction going to be? Test Track? Something new?
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This is a model they had at the South by South West Expo, so it looks like a tracked ride, with the vehicle having more suspension. Looks kind of like Indiana Jones but instead of the ride vehicle simulating rough terrain and the ride track being flat, the ride vehicle is actually able to go over rough terrain
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easyrowrdw

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Gusey said:
This is a model they had at the South by South West Expo, so it looks like a tracked ride, with the vehicle having more suspension. Looks kind of like Indiana Jones but instead of the ride vehicle simulating rough terrain and the ride track being flat, the ride vehicle is actually able to go over rough terrain
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Oh wow. So the trackless off-roading vehicles that were rumored (and shown in videos) at one point are not the plan? I wonder what that was for then
 
phillip9698

phillip9698

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DisneyHead123 said:
This might not mean anything but the Disney section of our Target just added a few shelves of Lightning McQueen merchandise. Kind of interesting as nothing Cars related has been out recently - wonder if they’re building up to a Cars 4 announcement?
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Cars merchandise always picks up when it’s back to school time. That’s when kids get new everything, and contrary to the opinion in this thread, Cars is still a popular IP.
 

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