MK New Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge

[SJN1279]

I’m happy that Captain Jack, Davy Jones, and hopefully Barbossa are represented in this space. I was worried it would just be Captain Red.

 

[Dragonman]

Walt Disney Imagineering has shared a new look inside The Beak and Barrel:

Love the carvings.

 

[eddie104]

Why would a hundred-billion-dollar media company put a video on the internet if they don't want it reacted to? I didn't sneak in there. If that content doesn't represent the project, that's on them.


My feedback is a concern that they are making a strategic mistake in calibrating the art direction's demographic appeal. This back bar looks dialed in for a five year old's pirate-themed birthday party. But as kids get older, they reject things from their childhood. Ask a ten year old girl if she loves Disney Princesss or Barbie. Ask a ten year old boy if he wants a pirate or construction or dinosaur-themed birthday party.

The appeal of that cartoonized look is a tight age-4 to age-10 and then it's lame, and "for babies." At age 10, kids want to do what teenagers do, they want things that are cool and authentic and adult. That's "age compression" and why the toy industry is in shambles. What they will do is say to their parents: "Let's go to Universal, Disney is for babies."

My criticism is that the leaders in charge of Imagineering and the parks are running the risk of turning Magic Kingdom into something like Universal's Texas "Kids Resort." The Tiana ride's story is "find a band for the party" and Cars with eyeballs replacing the river and steamboat. All these incremental moves to age the park down is risky.

Yes I'm going to raise these kinds of issues on a forum about the Disney Parks.

You’re jumping to conclusions on a project that is not complete.

Also coming off as a little arrogant like you know the project better than Imagineers working on it.

 

[DrStarlander]

You’re jumping to conclusions on a project that is not complete.

In the video, they say the back bar is "the feature of the space." So that's what I'm looking at. It has a children's birthday party look to me. If you love it, great. I think it's unhelpful and unnecessary to skew the art direction that childish.

Also coming off as a little arrogant like you know the project better than Imagineers working on it.

I'm just responding to what they're showing.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

In the video, they say the back bar is "the feature of the space." So that's what I'm looking at. It has a children's birthday party look to me. If you love it, great. I think it's unhelpful and unnecessary to skew the art direction that childish.
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I'm just responding to what they're showing.

That does look rough. I can only hope (assume) that it'll be heavily-textured so the base shapes still read. Otherwise, yeah... Playdoh fun house.

 

[DisneyHead123]

In the video, they say the back bar is "the feature of the space." So that's what I'm looking at. It has a children's birthday party look to me. If you love it, great. I think it's unhelpful and unnecessary to skew the art direction that childish.
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I'm just responding to what they're showing.

Just my take but I wouldn’t worry yet. Most of the woodwork looked amazing. This specific piece is a bit different but it’s just one piece… also there could be some reason for it that has to do with show elements. Like is something meant to go inside those four circles, a light or reflective surface or something like that?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And I'm very sorry to have to do it, as a 50-year Disney Parks fan. But this cartoonizing and dumbing down of everything is bad for the long-term, broad-demographic appeal of the parks.
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Oh, come on.

As you are probably aware, every new project that Disney does is prejudged, criticized, and badmouthed on these forums almost immediately.

It’s a shame.

 

[larryz]

As you are probably aware, every new project that Disney does is prejudged, criticized, and badmouthed on these forums almost immediately.

The only thing I don't like about this project is that it's dreadfully too small considering the 50,000-100,000 people per day in busy seasons who visit the MK.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The only thing I don't like about this project is that it's dreadfully too small considering the 50,000-100,000 people per day in busy seasons who visit the MK.

It’s only for DVC.

 

[larryz]

It’s only for DVC.

Who told you that -- a bus driver? Or (more likely) a DVC "consultant"?

 

[Ayla]

It’s only for DVC.

No, it isn't.

 

[larryz]

It’s only for DVC.

No, it isn't.

And so he scours the thread looking for the tidbit about being DVC only until he realizes to his horror he mixed it up with the DVC lounge in Frontierland...

 

[plutofan15]

It’s only for DVC.

You have gotten some bad information, my friend. Or perhaps getting it confused with the DVC lounge in Frontierland.

 

[Agent H]

And so he scours the thread looking for the tidbit about being DVC only until he realizes to his horror he mixed it up with the DVC lounge in Frontierland...

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In their defense I'm sure someone else who hasn’t been paying attention said it was a dvc lounge or something to that effect.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It’s only for DVC.

Easy to confuse.

The DVC-only lounges are

McKim's at Frontierland​

The one atop the Imagination Pavilion​

The one atop Contemporary's Bay Tower​

And upstairs at Disney Spring's "Welcome Home" DVC sale center​

Besides all the lounges attached to restaurants and hotel lobbies, there are:

Oga's in SWL​

Pirate's Lounge, the topic of this thread​

GEO-##, the 21+ only lounge in SSE​

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Of course, there are the Clubs 33 scattered about.

AFAIK there are no current lounges for APers or holders of certain credit cards anymore.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

AFAIK there are no current lounges for APers

For AP’s there is the old Morocco Restaurant at Epcot.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It’s only for DVC.

Who told you that -- a bus driver? Or (more likely) a DVC "consultant"?

No, it isn't.

And so he scours the thread looking for the tidbit about being DVC only until he realizes to his horror he mixed it up with the DVC lounge in Frontierland...

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You have gotten some bad information, my friend. Or perhaps getting it confused with the DVC lounge in Frontierland.

I stand corrected!

You could banish me to Tom Sawyer Isl…oh, well.

Just got home, not sharp, no “bad information,” for the love of God, thanks for the correction(s) and

 

[MisterPenguin]

For AP’s there is the old Morocco Restaurant at Epcot.

I forgot about that. But...

1. I don't think it serves adult drinks, so, it's not that kind of lounge. Although... right outside in the old open market, there are adult drinks in that mini-lounge.

2. The V.I. Passholder days in Marrakesh ends at the end of this July.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

1. I don't think it serves adult drinks, so, it's not that kind of lounge.

Correct. Just water. I wish they had some tea or lemonade or something like that but hey free snacks are free snacks. Haha

 

[Agent H]

I stand corrected!

You could banish me to Tom Sawyer Isl…oh, well.

Just got home, not sharp, no “bad information,” for the love of God, thanks for the correction(s) and

You are 100 percent forgiven.