MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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CoastalElite64 said:
Do you have evidence that it’s not?
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That’s not how this works. When people make baseless claims as to how popular the merchandise is, I’ve repeatedly asked for some recent evidence more recent than, say, 2011 that it still moves a lot of merch like it may have in the 2000’s. Nothing. Someone here (not necessarily this thread) pointed out the franchise used to be singled out in the earnings reports given how much it made, but that’s been many years ago.

Again, can you or anyone else point to some recent evidence it remains the merchandising juggernaut it was once reported to be?
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Tha Realest said:
Again, can you or anyone else point to some recent evidence it remains the merchandising juggernaut it was once reported to be?
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Nothing is stopping Disney from having dedicated cars merch stores at WDW and yet…. There isn’t one.

Cars is a hugely successful franchise - because of merch though. That is true.
 
SpectroBro

SpectroBro

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In the Parks
Yes
Tha Realest said:
My dude look at the thread title: “Cars-themed attractions” (plural).

There’s been a lot of “it’s not a Land” talk and people suggesting it’s only going to be a single attraction. Disney has announced and shown multiple attractions within the land.

Which begs the question: have they already cut back on the budget for this project? Do you have info to share? Or are you being intentionally misleading by trying to understate the announced scope of this project?
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Yes, “Cars-themed attractions” not “Cars-themed Land”. The footprint of all of this is not as large as many of you are making it out to be. It is truly just Frontierland expansion. Which is honestly how I prefer it to be. Single IP lands have no business being in the castle parks.
 
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DisneyHead123

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Tha Realest said:
The last reports of any consequence on the supppsed merch juggernaut is incredibly dated. Like, over a decade old. But it’s repeated as gospel it still sells a ton of merch without any backed up evidence.
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That’s interesting, I wonder what more recent merch sales have been like? Also wonder if a Cars 4 would get sales back up.
 
CoastalElite64

CoastalElite64

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Tha Realest said:
The last reports of any consequence on the supppsed merch juggernaut is incredibly dated. Like, over a decade old. But it’s repeated as gospel it still sells a ton of merch without any backed up evidence.
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You can say the evidence people have used is outdated but at least it was backed on data.

Now if your opinion is that sales have slowed down that can be said about every franchise after its peak.

Regardless, Disney knows how much Cars has made for the company.
 
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Emamba

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“…announced that a new area inspired by the Pixar Animation Studios film “Cars” will be coming to a reimagined section of Frontierland at Magic Kingdom. “The American West has always been about keeping your eyes on the horizon … believing in yourself, carving your own path, and striving toward success. That goes for miners in the mountains, bears from the country, a princess from the bayou … or a racecar from the big city,” - Disney Parks Blog
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Tha Realest said:
That’s not how this works. When people make baseless claims as to how popular the merchandise is, I’ve repeatedly asked for some recent evidence more recent than, say, 2011 that it still moves a lot of merch like it may have in the 2000’s. Nothing. Someone here (not necessarily this thread) pointed out the franchise used to be singled out in the earnings reports given how much it made, but that’s been many years ago.

Again, can you or anyone else point to some recent evidence it remains the merchandising juggernaut it was once reported to be?
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That was me. Disney calls out nine franchises in their 10Q’s and Cars was last in the top nine in 2022, when Stitch overtook its spot in 2023.

The combo of tracking the 10Q and these very recent comments from Deadline would lead me to believe Cars is now either 10th or 11th. The other franchise frequently mentioned but not currently in Disney’s 10Q is Lion King. Knowing that just had a 2024 film entrant, it’s possible Cars has fallen to 11th. But either way the revenue is both beyond its prior peak, but also not insignificant.

The reckless priorities of the company that they feel they need a Cars attraction warrants this effort, would be the third clue the revenue remains still significant.

Retail sales for Stitch have grown from $0.2B in 2019 to $2.6B in 2024, representing a ten-fold increase. Stitch is one of 11 evergreen franchises for the Walt Disney Company that has surpassed $1B in retail sales last year (Stitch being in the top 10).
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BrianLo

BrianLo

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Interestingly, this information on Stitch specifically taking off is newer than when I last looked at this. I now suspect they actually order their top 9 by gross and it’s not randomly listed. Here’s 2023 and 2024 for sake of discussion.

2023
1) Mickey and Friends
2) Star wars
3) Spider-Man
4) Disney Princesses
5) Avengers
6) Frozen
7) Toy Story
8) Winnie the Pooh
9) Lilo and Stitch

2024
1) Mickey and Friends
2) Star wars
3) Spider-Man
4) Disney Princesses
5) Lilo and Stitch
6) Frozen
7) Avengers
8) Winnie the Pooh
9) Toy Story
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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I wouldn’t be worried about the sounds from the Cars main ride bleeding over to other areas of Frontierland or Liberty Square if we’re going to judge based off RSR. All you hear is the ride system anywhere outside of the attraction. I’d be more worried about the kiddie ride that will most likely have an ongoing music loop and character narration like Maters or Luigi’s. But I’d imagine that’s why it’s located where it is in the concept art.
 
JackCH

JackCH

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BrianLo said:
Interestingly, this information on Stitch specifically taking off is newer than when I last looked at this. I now suspect they actually order their top 9 by gross and it’s not randomly listed. Here’s 2023 and 2024 for sake of discussion.

2023
1) Mickey and Friends
2) Star wars
3) Spider-Man
4) Disney Princesses
5) Avengers
6) Frozen
7) Toy Story
8) Winnie the Pooh
9) Lilo and Stitch

2024
1) Mickey and Friends
2) Star wars
3) Spider-Man
4) Disney Princesses
5) Lilo and Stitch
6) Frozen
7) Avengers
8) Winnie the Pooh
9) Toy Story
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All I see is evidence they should do more with Galaxy’s Edge. Perhaps theming to OT.

And good Lord Spider-Man is such an icon. Separated from the rest of the Avengers and he is still third. It’s no wonder Universal wants to hang onto that contract.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Gremlin Gus said:
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Sigh... I'm finally Disney-ed out. After visiting DINOSAUR, MV3D, and Liberty Belle on my last trip (I went to TSI on an earlier trip) and even flew out to Disneyland for the first time, I'm in no mood to be surrounded by construction everywhere. Especially in MK when the heart and sould of the park have been ripped out. So I'm thinking Pigeon Forge in the Fall and literally made plans last night for USF next Spring.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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TheCoasterNerd said:
Thank the lord for the big-a$$ sinkhole that makes it impossible to have anything but water there
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There isn’t actually a sink hole.

Sinkholes of Orange County, Florida , 2008

Map of This map was created by FCIT and represents reported sinkhole events in Orange County based on data gathered by the Florida Geological Survey (FGS) and the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP). " This dataset represents a set of...
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MickMinn22

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One thing I am interested to see as construction progresses in this area, does Disney use this construction as a way to prep future expansion beyond the berm. Do they make the railroad bridge permanent and build a walkway under it similar to DL toontown which can be used to access the lay down yards for future expansion? I know nothing about the various permits filed and how water management could impact future use of these areas. This is all probably wishful thinking but would definitely be the time to prep for true expansion and increase the parks footprint.
 
JD80

JD80

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MickMinn22 said:
One thing I am interested to see as construction progresses in this area, does Disney use this construction as a way to prep future expansion beyond the berm. Do they make the railroad bridge permanent and build a walkway under it similar to DL toontown which can be used to access the lay down yards for future expansion? I know nothing about the various permits filed and how water management could impact future use of these areas. This is all probably wishful thinking but would definitely be the time to prep for true expansion and increase the parks footprint.
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You have to look through the land use agreements and suitability maps to get some hints.

Land use:
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Pink color is for entertainment.
Brown is mixed use.
The Light green/yellow color is for Resource Management and Recreation.
Purple is for Hotel/Resort.

Suitability:
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Red is suitable.
The lighter green is marginally suitable. All other greens are various levels of unsuitable.

All the red/light green you see around the NW/W corners of ROA are red/light green.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another resort on the lagoon before we saw any building outside the railroad.
 

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