MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Bocabear]

and of course, we are going to have 5-6 years of construction walls and mess coming up..... There is no way they can scrape that land and then rebuild it in 3 years.... not at their current construction rate... and then Villains land after that....At least the Villains land plot is behind everything and won't be noticeable as much until it opens in 2032-3

 

[MisterPenguin]

and of course, we are going to have 5-6 years of construction walls and mess coming up..... There is no way they can scrape that land and then rebuild it in 3 years.... not at their current construction rate... and then Villains land after that....At least the Villains land plot is behind everything and won't be noticeable as much until it opens in 2032-3

All of Avatar was built from scraping to finish in 3 1/2 years.

Cars Piston Peaks and Villain Land were part of the D23 claim of shovel-ready and done by at least 5 years from the announcement. Stop trying to sneak in 5-6 years from now (which would be 6-7 years from announcement).

Permits are approved. Lay down yards are in full progress. RoA is going away this week. It's in the works.

Also, they aren't completing Cars and then start to work on Villains Land. They are being built at the same time.

All of this has been made known in the threads you frequent.

Stop making stuff up.

 

[Jedi14]

So today is Independence Day. There will be a year long celebration of the 250th anniversary of the US culminating one year from today. Just waiting for the media stories on Disney tearing out The Rivers of America and The Liberty Belle as we are celebrating the 250th anniversary of the US. Really bad optics for a company that used to be known for Americana and family. Good luck with that Disney.

Be so for real.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Also, they aren't completing Cars and then start to work on Villains Land. They are being built at the same time.

I’m still skeptical on Villains - it’s been pretty quiet hasn’t it? Or maybe I’ve missed things cause I don’t care that much.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

The riverboat is being lifted out by helium balloons.

I thought it was a Cars attraction, not Up!

 

[MisterPenguin]

I’m still skeptical on Villains - it’s been pretty quiet hasn’t it? Or maybe I’ve missed things cause I don’t care that much.

The laydown yard is for both Cars Piston Peak and Villains. Part of RoA will be where Villains will be.

So, everything we're seeing in prep for Cars is also prep for Villains.

Disney blog has said both are being worked on now. Not one first then the other.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Part of RoA will be where Villains will be.

Oh yes, the land is being filled in. So yes, it’s being “worked” on sure. But last I heard Disney didn’t even know what they were actually building?

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

@MisterPenguin so will they open at the same time or will Cars open first?

 

[MisterPenguin]

@MisterPenguin so will they open at the same time or will Cars open first?

That is unknown. As far as I know.

They could purposefully do a staggered opening for the PR. Or one might be finished before the other because of new-ride-tech issues regardless of 'plans.'

But, they are both being worked on at the same time. That has been made known by Disney.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Oh yes, the land is being filled in. So yes, it’s being “worked” on sure. But last I heard Disney didn’t even know what they were actually building?

Based on the changes in Concept Art of Cars -- and the lack of info of the kiddie "attraction" -- that could apply to Piston Peak, too!

As @lazyboy97o says often, Disney changes scope of work and is known not to have completed design as the project begins. But once the land is cleared and they're ready to pour cement concrete, the form of the attraction (coaster, off-road vehicle, dark ride, etc...) is set, if not all its elements are decided upon.

It's like how a movie with an unfinished script is made... they have a year of filming to keep changing things!

 

[WDWhopper]

and of course, we are going to have 5-6 years of construction walls and mess coming up..... There is no way they can scrape that land and then rebuild it in 3 years.... not at their current construction rate... and then Villains land after that....At least the Villains land plot is behind everything and won't be noticeable as much until it opens in 2032-3

All of Avatar was built from scraping to finish in 3 1/2 years.

Cars Piston Peaks and Villain Land were part of the D23 claim of shovel-ready and done by at least 5 years from the announcement. Stop trying to sneak in 5-6 years from now (which would be 6-7 years from announcement).

Permits are approved. Lay down yards are in full progress. RoA is going away this week. It's in the works.

Also, they aren't completing Cars and then start to work on Villains Land. They are being built at the same time.

All of this has been made known in the threads you frequent.

Stop making stuff up.

Well, Josh told us that dirt was already being moved two years ago, so I think the 5 to 6 year timeframe is probably spot on

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, Josh told us that dirt was already moving two years ago,

The D23 event in which Josh announced Cars and Villains for MK and 'dirt was moving' was in August of 2024.

That's only 11 months ago.

You, too, please stop making things up.

 

[Bocabear]

Scope of work changes and frequently these projects take much longer than anticipated.... Considering it took literally multiple years to build a Margarita Kiost in front of the Mexico Pavilion,and I lost track of how much time it has taken to add the seating to the Lunch Box snack stand at DHS, I really never know how long to consider for a project, but feels like most of them take longer than expected.... A project like this one where literally the land has to be scraped and a riverbed removed before anything can actually begin, I am anticipating a longer window...espcially with the complexity of the rockwork and build out... I would love to see them complete it in under 3 years as some have said....but it seems like a lot of demo and rebuild for a pretty gigantic project.
And they did initially say that Carsland would be completed before Villain Land....whether that has changed or not, I have no idea.

 

[Jedi14]

Well, Josh told us that dirt was already being moved two years ago, so I think the 5 to 6 year timeframe is probably spot on

It was in August.

 

[EagleScout610]

Slighty OT, but does anyone think they're gonna bring the wristband system they used last month for Muppets back for the last ride on the riverboat, or the last raft to Tom Sawyer?

 

[lazyboy97o]

As @lazyboy97o says often, Disney changes scope of work and is known not to have completed design as the project begins. But once the land is cleared and they're ready to pour cement concrete, the form of the attraction (coaster, off-road vehicle, dark ride, etc...) is set, if not all its elements are decided upon.

There is still plenty of time for things to be changed even as concrete in being poured. You just make it strong enough to support a variety of uses.

 

[BrianLo]

Scope of work changes and frequently these projects take much longer than anticipated.... Considering it took literally multiple years to build a Margarita Kiost in front of the Mexico Pavilion,and I lost track of how much time it has taken to add the seating to the Lunch Box snack stand at DHS, I really never know how long to consider for a project, but feels like most of them take longer than expected.... A project like this one where literally the land has to be scraped and a riverbed removed before anything can actually begin, I am anticipating a longer window...espcially with the complexity of the rockwork and build out... I would love to see them complete it in under 3 years as some have said....but it seems like a lot of demo and rebuild for a pretty gigantic project.
And they did initially say that Carsland would be completed before Villain Land....whether that has changed or not, I have no idea.

Walk me through your logic then.

It’s exactly 10 years ago. Disney hasn’t announced their DHS redo. Toy Story land will be announced in a month. Its concept art precedes scope reduction.

A Star Wars land is also to be announced. The company has yet to fully settle on where exactly it will be built. They are hovering around Toontown and South of Indy internally. The concept they release in no way represents the product they will build, it’s very early blue sky.

They manage to open the first phase in a 3 years and the second in 4. Construction starts the following year.

The build also includes a new marquee Mickey attraction, they haven’t even decided that yet. It won’t be publically announced for two more years.

Now we’re a decade ahead and a year ahead of that schedule. 2028/2029 on these two phases isn’t optimistic, even. Somehow everyone has gone from Disney takes a while and stretched it to comedic ends.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Slighty OT, but does anyone think they're gonna bring the wristband system they used last month for Muppets back for the last ride on the riverboat, or the last raft to Tom Sawyer?

I would guess that the riverboat can accommodate everyone who wants to be on the last ride.

Island may be a little tricky since some will want to be “on the last raft back”

 

[WDWhopper]

I asked ChatBot the following question:
“Analyzing everything that Walt Disney said in his lifetime, what do you think his reaction would be to the removal of the River boat and the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer’s Island?”
And here’s Chatbots answer:
“Based on everything Walt Disney said and stood for during his lifetime—especially regarding frontier Americana, guest immersion, and educational storytelling—it is highly likely that Walt would have strongly opposed removing the Rivers of America, the riverboat, and Tom Sawyer Island from Magic Kingdom.
Here’s why:

Walt’s Deep Personal Connection to the Rivers of America

Walt loved the Mississippi River mythology and American frontier culture. He personally helped design and layout the original Rivers of America at Disneyland in the 1950s.

• He was so invested in the Mark Twain Riverboat that he actually piloted it himself on Disneyland’s opening day in 1955.
• He referred to that whole area—Tom Sawyer Island, the riverboat, the surrounding frontierland—as an idealized, romantic piece of American heritage meant to educate and delight both children and adults.

His Love of Tom Sawyer

Walt said: “I wanted to have a place where I could take my daughters and enjoy the things I loved when I was a boy.”

• Tom Sawyer was a symbol of childhood adventure, freedom, and exploration to Walt. He once claimed it was the kind of experience he wished for as a Missouri farm boy.
• He was personally involved in the design of Tom Sawyer Island and even dictated how the caves and fort should look.

His Philosophy on Theme Parks

Walt wasn’t building just thrill parks—he said, “Disneyland is a show.” Every part had to tell a story, reflect a piece of history, or serve a deeper purpose.

• He once remarked, “You can’t top pigs with pigs.” Meaning: you shouldn’t chase fads or short-term thrills over enduring themes and meaningful environments.
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• Walt’s Probable Reaction

If someone proposed eliminating the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island from the Magic Kingdom today, Walt would likely have said something like:

“Why would you take away one of the most beautiful and educational parts of the park? That’s real American history brought to life. Children today still need to know what it felt like to ride a steamboat, to crawl through caves, to live out an adventure. That’s the spirit of this place.”

Final Verdict:

Walt Disney would likely be heartbroken and firmly against the removal of those elements. He believed in blending entertainment with storytelling, nostalgia, and education, and the Rivers of America embodied all of that.

So as you can see, even AI understands it.

 

[JohnD]

The Big Beautiful Belle everyone!