MK Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack

[Walter Elias Disney]

There will aways be a Space Mountain. The first Space Mountain attraction opened at the Magi Kingdom on January 15, 1975. Disneyland's Space Mountain opened two years later, on May 27, 1977. It has been in the plans for a refurbishment.

 

[doctornick]

Nobody will ever be able to convince me that plans are not in place to demolish Space or gut it and use it for something completely different.

You don’t build Tron next door and then don’t have those plans in blue sky / concept / feasibility plans.

Now they may choose another plan…. But that plan has to exist as an option.

Tron and Space Mountain are very different rides, no matter how Tron was framed when built for Shanghai. There's no reason the two cannot exist near each other.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There will aways be a Space Mountain.

The only thing I’m willing to say with any confidence about a castle park is there will always be a castle.

There is nothing particularly special about Space Mountain that requires it to exist.

 

[Touchdown]

Tomorrowland is the saddest story right now....

Go to DL, you’ll change your opinion of MK Tomorrowland

 

[JackCH]

Tomorrowland is the saddest story right now....

I’d actually argue of all MK’s lands Tomorrowland is the one that might be the best of the castle parks? That being said there is a lot of updates needed and waste of space. But two E’s (Tron and Space), plus classics like PeopleMover and CoP.

I’d argue the weakest land of MK is actually Adventureland. No unique E-Ticket (like DL’s Indy) and a weaker Pirates.

So, I’d vote for a new AL attraction (Moana?) and refresh before TL.

 

[MisterPenguin]

If WDW is waiting for anything before pulling the trigger on a new Space Mt. coaster is first seeing guests' reaction to Tokyo's new SM.

And for Carlains to open.

And for SGE to be filled.

And for a new Speedway.

And a Space Mountain memorial cupcake to be designed.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Go to DL, you’ll change your opinion of MK Tomorrowland

They are both in really sad shape.

Visually DL does look worse, especially since it’s easy to forget the long closed Terrace is part of Tomorrowland and Stitch is behind walls.

 

[eddie104]

They are both in really sad shape.

Visually DL does look worse, especially since it’s easy to forget the long closed Terrace is part of Tomorrowland and Stitch is behind walls.

DL Tomorrowland is literally half abandoned so I think there is a huge difference between the two.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

DL Tomorrowland is literally half abandoned so I think there is a huge difference between the two.

Only thing abandoned is peoplemover and magic eye theatre.

Edit: again they are both in sad shape. I have major issues with both. WDW does look better but the same major issues are there, just not as obvious. Tomorrowland Terrace and Stitch being closed is completely inexcusable in the world’s busiest theme park.

 

[Touchdown]

Only thing abandoned is peoplemover and magic eye theatre.

Launch Bay may as well be abandoned and Star Tours is currently down with an unknown return.

 

[Professortango1]

Only thing abandoned is peoplemover and magic eye theatre.

And the Carousel Theatre. And the Tomorrowland Terrace Stage. And the Starcade. Of the 11 attraction spaces, 6 are operational.

In comparison though, Tomorrowland still has more attractions than Adventureland, Frontierlend, Galaxy's Edge, New Orleans Square. It just has a ton of unused spaces as well as needing a replacement for Buzz, Nemo, Autopia, and Star Tours.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Star Tours is currently down with an unknown return.

It was running when I was there 2 weeks ago. I don’t call that abandoned.

And the Carousel Theatre. And the Tomorrowland Terrace Stage. And the Starcade.

Carousel is technically used - just underused. Like Tomorrowland terrace at WDW.

The stage is also used…. For dance parties. Not a fan but it is used.

 

[larryz]

The first Space Mountain attraction opened at the Magi Kingdom on January 15, 1975.

Ecclesiastically appropriate.

 

[Professortango1]

Carousel is technically used - just underused. Like Tomorrowland terrace at WDW.

The stage is also used…. For dance parties. Not a fan but it is used.

Every time I walk by either, they are closed up and lifeless. Opening the former Who Wants to be a Millionaire building for a temporary pop up store or event that runs for less than 10% of the operating hours isn't being used, in my opinion. These are spaces where shows and attractions used to occur throughout the day for all guests. That isn't the case anymore.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Every time I walk by either, they are closed up and lifeless.

Tomorrowland Terrace stage hosts the Galactic Dance Party nightly from 5:30-9:30

The Carousel Building is used daily - but indeed it’s underused. It’s a DVC lounge and a Visa meet and greet location.

 

[James Alucobond]

I’d actually argue of all MK’s lands Tomorrowland is the one that might be the best of the castle parks? That being said there is a lot of updates needed and waste of space. But two E’s (Tron and Space), plus classics like PeopleMover and CoP.

It’s the land itself that is most problematic. They only partially reverted it from the 90s makeover. Well, that and the fact that two core structures sit mostly unused.

I’d argue the weakest land of MK is actually Adventureland. No unique E-Ticket (like DL’s Indy) and a weaker Pirates.

So, I’d vote for a new AL attraction (Moana?) and refresh before TL.

IMO, use Aladdin rather than Moana. Transition beyond Pirates to a better-realized Agrabah bazaar, move the spinner and camels over to that courtyard, add a Cave of Wonders simulator, and revert the Adventureland plaza to something resembling its original theming. Moana is probably better for Animal Kingdom based purely on the kinds of rides it needs; they just need to properly frame it within an Oceania land unlike in the blue sky.

 

[owlsandcoffee]

It’s the land itself that is most problematic. They only partially reverted it from the 90s makeover. Well, that and the fact that two core structures sit mostly unused.

Yeah, I'd say MK Tomorrowland is too sparse. Two great rollercoasters but there's not much to do between. TL is just a poorly themed path on the way to Space Mountain.

IMO, use Aladdin rather than Moana. Transition beyond Pirates to a better-realized Agrabah bazaar, move the spinner and camels over to that courtyard, add a Cave of Wonders simulator, and revert the Adventureland plaza to something resembling its original theming. Moana is probably better for Animal Kingdom based purely on the kinds of rides it needs; they just need to properly frame it within an Oceania land unlike in the blue sky.

I've always felt like the plot beyond Pirates would be great for an archeology-themed rollercoaster and maybe a reskin of Aladdin. I do think the Magic Carpets are great as an ADA-accessible ride and they could be rethemed around like... equipment... or something. A Drill. Who knows. lol. But I honestly do like the idea of a proper bazaar and reverting Adventureland.

 

[JackCH]

It’s the land itself that is most problematic. They only partially reverted it from the 90s makeover. Well, that and the fact that two core structures sit mostly unused.

IMO, use Aladdin rather than Moana. Transition beyond Pirates to a better-realized Agrabah bazaar, move the spinner and camels over to that courtyard, add a Cave of Wonders simulator, and revert the Adventureland plaza to something resembling its original theming. Moana is probably better for Animal Kingdom based purely on the kinds of rides it needs; they just need to properly frame it within an Oceania land unlike in the blue sky.

Oh I agree Aladdin/Cave of Wonders would be my first choice. I just don't think it is likely and we know Moana has been rumored for there.

 

[solidyne]

Ecclesiastically appropriate.

only nine days late?

 

[Tha Realest]

DL Tomorrowland is literally half abandoned so I think there is a huge difference between the two.