lazyboy97o
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Why does the world’s busiest theme park have less dining capacity today than it did in 1993? Why was Tomorrowland Terrace closed today as it has been for years now?
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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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DarkMetroid567
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what even is the debate here
mattpeto
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The debate is that MV3D closed early simply as a cost cut initiative. As Disney wouldn’t have to pay operating costs to the staff to run the show.
I honestly think it’s more nuance than that for both sides.
I tend to think that Grand Avenue was closed because it’s going to be a construction zone soon and too dangerous for nearby guests. I find it curious they closed the whole land and I am interested on the pace and progress of the construction.
Most people here think the Grand Avenue makeover could be completed in a year or less and most of the work is going to be done beyond the berm so they could have had MV3D run for longer run before closing it down.
easyrowrdw
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I wouldn’t expect the show to open before the coaster based on what happened with Galaxy’s Edge.
They opened Galaxy’s Edge without Rise and it was kind of a letdown. I think the VQ for the land was done before the end of the day. I imagine it would’ve been more well received if the premier attraction had been there from Day 1. The VQ for Rise was crazy; people lined up at 5:00am or earlier to get one.
I don’t expect the door coaster to be as good as Rise but I think the same thing will apply. Assuming the coaster is a hit, they can get by with whatever the show is and people won’t care as much. If they stagger it, it puts the show on display.
They opened Galaxy’s Edge without Rise and it was kind of a letdown. I think the VQ for the land was done before the end of the day. I imagine it would’ve been more well received if the premier attraction had been there from Day 1. The VQ for Rise was crazy; people lined up at 5:00am or earlier to get one.
I don’t expect the door coaster to be as good as Rise but I think the same thing will apply. Assuming the coaster is a hit, they can get by with whatever the show is and people won’t care as much. If they stagger it, it puts the show on display.
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peter11435
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It’s more than just that. Disney doesn’t have to pay cast to run muppets. Or cast at pizzarizo. Or servers, seaters, and kitchen staff at Mama Melrose. Or custodial cast to staff and clean the land and its two restrooms. Or leaders and coordinators for any of those locations. Or maintenance cast to work on the show, facilities, and equiptment in the theater, restaurant, and around the land. They don’t have to pay horticulture to replace flowers or trim trees. They don’t have to pay painters to touch up wear and tear. Or third shift to vacuum, high dust, or power wash. They don’t have to pay for replacement glasses, equipment or parts. They don’t even have to pay to AC those facilities or run the fountain. The list goes on.
TrainsOfDisney
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That’s not what is being discussed here at all - I’m not sure what you were replying to or why?
Kind of? I flew out to California after reserving a “preview” of galaxies edge. letdown isn’t even the word.
Agent H
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I don’t think we hear anything until d23 2026.
BrianLo
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That's the most helpful thing they've ever done for us. More Nazca lines please, WDI et al.
Moth
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I think there's a chance show opens sooner than the coaster. Depends how fast they get construction done near the show/how bad DHS needs capacity.
BrianLo
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I think the simplest line in the sand for @mattpeto's hypothesis to hold up: the courtyard really should open before or by the time Tropical America's does. Considering Dinoland at large still isn't closed, that would be generous.
For the record, I too think they are slow rolling it and the whole thing opens together in ~Q2 (fiscal ~Q3) 2028.
Casper Gutman
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That’s VERY generous, since the Zootopia conversion took less than a year.
I'm hoping whatever they do to the MV3D theater is more in depth than converting TTBAB to Zootopia. Remember, there they pretty much have one room to retheme, here they have an entire land and could completely redo the exterior if they want
TrainsOfDisney
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This is what they are doing to the exterior
Ice Gator
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I’d watch that!
The Leader of the Club
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Moth
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I think Villains closes when the land officially opens/gets close to opening. So probablyyyyy a year or two later?
TrainsOfDisney
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With Star Wars Launch Bay still open for business I have no hope. :-/
danlb_2000
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I think this is one of the reasons they chose to put Monsters here, they can get away with very light re-theming of the existing buildings.
TrainsOfDisney
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Oh for sure! Everything stays in place and is reused except for studio 1 which is demolished. The only major cosmetic change I see is to the outside of Mama Melrose.