DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

mattpeto

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The replacement for Muppets will open in quarter ———— of —————.

Please fill in the blank. No conversation needed, just two numbers. I don’t even need a month, just a quarter is fine.
Honestly I have no idea.

I think it will open with the Door Coaster, but I give it a chance to open BEFORE the Door Coaster.
 

Casper Gutman

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To put it simply, they feel that Disney is destroying their childhood.
Snarky. But that phrase doesn’t work. It comes from films, where a bad new movie doesn’t erase the existence of a good old movie. That’s why the phrase has such a cutting edge in that context. In a theme park -WDW in particular - when you rip out a good old attraction for a lesser new one, it is very literally destroyed. It does not exist and will never exist again. So yes, it is legitimate to say that something, something that probably is significant to many people’s childhoods, is destroyed. This is part of the very tricky nature of acknowledging theme parks as art.
 

mattpeto

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You trivialize the financial impact of the closure by saying they are saving paying “sweetums and his friends.” In reality they are saving millions of dollars.

Let me ask you a “why”
Why shutdown a whole land to do work that could be done in a year, 3 years before it will be needed?
I think I answered that why a few times.

Maybe it's possible they need more time than you think to turn the land over to Monstropolis.
 

mattpeto

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Find anything where I said anything close to that. In fact I have specifically mentioned it being scheduled a certain way.





Given that you didn’t know the difference between the different permits and why they’re filed, I’m guessing you don’t have a lot of commercial design and construction knowledge and experience. Yet you’re naivety declaring what things mean and are evidence of when you wouldn’t know. Anything and everything is proof that you’re right because you are still completely missing the point. You posted about a noise being heard as evidence.


You’ve never spread a task over more time to make it easier? You’ve never asked someone to assist you with a task not because you couldn’t do it by yourself but because it would be accomplished faster?


Because you want to make sure you actually get it. You don’t want to leave things that could be stolen as happened over at Epcot in the Wonders of Life Pavilion. You don’t want some other team to claim it as theirs. You don’t want to risk the demolition team coming in and chucking it in the trash. You don’t want to risk the air conditioning not being properly maintained and interior pieces being damaged. You don’t want to risk required maintenance not being done and something deteriorating. Even something made to outside and full of water like the fountain is going to really gross very quickly if the water isn’t kept going and still being treated.
They always have spread out costs over financial quarters and fiscal years on every project. It's not great for us, but that's the reality.
 

peter11435

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I think I answered that why a few times.

Maybe it's possible they need more time than you think to turn the land over to Monstropolis.
So you think it’s possible they need the same amount of time to make some cosmetic changes to existing structures as they need to do site prep, construct an enormous show building, install an entire roller coaster, and perform all theming, programming, and testing for a major new attraction?

It’s tough to be a bug closed in March and will reopen later this year with a new attraction. Muppets closed in June and the theater will not reopen in 2025. Or 2026. Or 2027.
 

mattpeto

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Fortunately for this thread, I'll be headed to Disneyland next week.

Hopefully no construction or demolition happens while I'm gone. I'd hate to miss it.
 

mattpeto

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So you think it’s possible they need the same amount of time to make some cosmetic changes to existing structures as they need to do site prep, construct an enormous show building, install an entire roller coaster, and perform all theming, programming, and testing for a major new attraction?

It’s tough to be a bug closed in March and will reopen later this year with a new attraction. Muppets closed in June and the theater will not reopen in 2025. Or 2026. Or 2027.
Whole land shutdown Pete. Whole land. Not just Muppets.
 

JackCH

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No I don’t.

But why didn’t they keep it open then?
Didn't he already answer that? Save operation costs of the land while not losing revenue cause those same guests will eat somewhere else?

And if you don't think the work in the land will take as long as the Coaster, which you seem to have just granted, I'm honestly having a hard time understanding what you're arguing.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think I answered that why a few times.

Maybe it's possible they need more time than you think to turn the land over to Monstropolis.
Sure, it’s possible, but it’s not probable. And the things that would make it more probable would mean the facilities are in a serious state of neglect and decay, which would be worse.

They always have spread out costs over financial quarters and fiscal years on every project. It's not great for us, but that's the reality.
Do you not see the contradiction in acknowledging this and your claims that they need the time?
 

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