DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

peter11435

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mattpeto

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peter11435 said:
No. It’s not rocket science which is why it’s surprising that you’re not understanding.

Sure they have plan. But no matter what their plan is for the courtyard it will not take as much time as the e ticket behind it unless the pace is intentionally slowed to meet the time line of that e ticket.

They are clearly shifting operating expenses from muppets to the two new offerings in the park.

Closing muppets a year earlier than necessary would save millions of dollars. Really.
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And how much money are they not getting from PizzeRizzo and Mama Melrose by shutting those down just as premature as MV3D if they didn’t have to?
 
The Leader of the Club

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mattpeto said:
And how much money are they not getting from PizzeRizzo and Mama Melrose by shutting those down just as premature as MV3D?
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I mean, the consistently empty Pizza restaurant probably wasn't bringing in that much revenue.
Melrose was probably doing okay, but not even well enough to even keep open through Muppet*Vision's last day.

This area of the park really hasn't been a revenue generator in years, that's why its being replaced.
 
mattpeto

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The Leader of the Club said:
I mean, the consistently empty Pizza restaurant probably wasn't bringing in that much revenue.
Melrose was probably doing okay, but not even well enough to even keep open through Muppet*Vision's last day.

This area of the park really hasn't been a revenue generator in years, that's why its being replaced.
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Agreed but it still brought in something.

They decided to shutdown the whole land not just the attraction.

Like @ToTBellHop said, maybe it was more of the bandaid rip sort of move.
 
The Leader of the Club

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HMF said:
Yes, because every inch of the park must generate revenue or it's no good. Do you remember what happened the last time Disney thought that?
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Not every square inch of every park has to be a revenue generator, but a full land? Absolutely.

If Mama Melrose's is not pulling its weight, start thinking of ways to make it more popular (Harryhausen's will definitely do this). If people aren't stopping to eat at PizzeRizzo, make them walk right past it on the way to an E-Ticket. If you aren't going to open the massive gift shop in the middle of the land, demo it to add snack carts/photopass photographers.
 
lazyboy97o

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mattpeto said:
Is it possible they closed it because they have a plan and it’s going to be a construction zone soon? They are clearly prepping the area. This is not rocket science. How much money do you think it costs Disney to run MV3D per day?
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How much would it cost to operate revenue generating restaurants at the world’s busiest theme park? How much would it cost to keep Dockside Diner open past 5:00 PM which is in an area of this park that people congregate at night? Or the nearby popcorn cart that people try to get snacks at before the nighttime shows?

I have no problem not criticizing Disney on schedules. I will often say people’s expectations are unrealistic and point out that Disney overlaps construction with design which, as a process most don’t really know, makes projects look like they’re taking longer. I defended the long time it was taking to repair the Max Factor facade. I still defend the original timeline for TRON! Those defenses come from the same place as the criticism of this timeline, knowledge of what is involved in the design and construction process.

Just because they have a plan doesn’t mean it was developed in isolation with a singular focus on the tightest possible schedule.
 
No Name

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MisterPenguin said:
It'd be almost impossible to see the building from anywhere except its head-on entrance, which, according to artwork, is supposed to be fulled facade-ed.
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Yeah but that artwork just copied and pasted the dark ride building from Tokyo so it’s not really indicative of what this much taller one will look like. Of course I hope it’s fully themed!
 
mattpeto

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lazyboy97o said:
How much would it cost to operate revenue generating restaurants at the world’s busiest theme park? How much would it cost to keep Dockside Diner open past 5:00 PM which is in an area of this park that people congregate at night? Or the nearby popcorn cart that people try to get snacks at before the nighttime shows?

I have no problem not criticizing Disney on schedules. I will often say people’s expectations are unrealistic and point out that Disney overlaps construction with design which, as a process most don’t really know, makes projects look like they’re taking longer. I defended the long time it was taking to repair the Max Factor facade. I still defend the original timeline for TRON! Those defenses come from the same place as the criticism of this timeline, knowledge of what is involved in the design and construction process.

Just because they have a plan doesn’t mean it was developed in isolation with a singular focus on the tightest possible schedule.
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I agree with many things in this post. And to your credit and @peter11435, you might know more about the timeline (and others timelines) more than I do.

Do they save money from not running MV3D? Of course.
Do they lose revenue streams by closing two restaurants in the land? Of course.

I still find it hard to believe they just closed it to save operational costs. Guess we'll see.
 
peter11435

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mattpeto said:
I agree with many things in this post. And to your credit and @peter11435, you might know more about the timeline (and others timelines) more than I do.

Do they save money from not running MV3D? Of course.
Do they lose revenue streams by closing two restaurants in the land? Of course.

I still find it hard to believe they just closed it to save operational costs. Guess we'll see.
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In their view they won’t really lose money by closing those restaurants. Park attendance won’t change, guests will still need to eat, the loss of revenue at those two locations will be offset by increases at the remaining restaurants. The same number of guests will still be paying for the same number of meals. And they can do this while saving the operating expanses of those two restaurants as well.

It’s the same reason they have restaurants like Pizzarizzo that close at 4 despite the park being crowded and open another 5-6 hours.
 
ToTBellHop

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peter11435 said:
In their view they won’t really lose money by closing those restaurants. Park attendance won’t change, guests will still need to eat, the loss of revenue at those two locations will be offset by increases at the remaining restaurants. The same number of guests will still be paying for the same number of meals. And they can do this while saving the operating expanses of those two restaurants as well.

It’s the same reason they have restaurants like Pizzarizzo that close at 4 despite the park being crowded and open another 5-6 hours.
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They moved the pizza to the outdoor food court by RnRC. So, now we pay for that garbage and they don’t even have to give us an air-conditioned space to eat it in!
 

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