Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Uh no, why assume the worst of me? I’m not an apologist, you should know I’m quite facts based.

What I was referencing is that Box office mojo was acquired by Amazon. All of its actual interesting data metrics were paywalled in 2019. Including the tracker with the fastest studios to 1B. There was a huge turn against it and this is what gave rise to “the numbers”, which we typically use more frequently. It has essentially provided a lot of the useful back end features for free that we used to have with BOMojo. But lost is any ability for me to see this metric from either site.

Box office mojo used to also provide a lot of weekend commentary as Deadline does. But that author team got the heave ho by Amazon.

This was all I’m referencing, the growing irrelevancy when it used to basically be the be all end all.

The simple numbers aren’t “irrelevant”…they may not paint the entire picture…but the shape and the colors are there

Did you need a different word to make your point?

Box office performance is indicative of many things…still…it’s not a “non-profit” gateway to streaming…

Doesn’t mean it’s 1939 and we can go see gone with the wind for the 8th time for $0.15 cents…but it also doesn’t mean that Performance isn’t still the key marker for return on investment and strategy.

We’re not there…so we can just shut this down until we get there if that’s a better idea?

We might need a time capsule to explain it to those that follow…but I’m more than happy to bury it and pitch in if needs be?

 

[BrianLo]

I really can’t re-explain my sarcastic joke a second time over something so silly.

I surrender.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I really can’t re-explain my sarcastic joke a second time over something so silly.

I surrender.

Lost in translation…it’s what happens sometimes when a thread has been about 25 straight months of arguing simply for arguments sake.

To be fair…you aren’t typically engaging in that…so I’ll pay attention next time

 

[DKampy]

IMO…, if Horror was the chic genre right
now… 28 years Later would be opening bigger….but it can even get to 35 million to pass How To Train Your Dragon…. At 75 million budget I don’t even know if it will break even…. Horror many times is front loaded…. And there are some horror fans who are disappointed because they say it is not the film the trailers advertised.,,, although I have not seen it yet

 

[Miss Rori]

Horror many times is front loaded…. And there are some horror fans who are disappointed because they say it is not the film the trailers advertised.,,, although I have not seen it yet

Yeah, between the B Cinemascore (though it's been pointed out elsewhere that horror movies tend not to get to A-ish Cinemascores; it's a demanding crowd!) and word on the street, the responses to 28 Years Later are quite polarized - some viewers love it, some hate it. And yeah, the genre tends to be frontloaded, but this is still an impressive start, right in the middle of summer blockbuster season. That it's managing so far to outdraw a new Pixar movie is something I didn't expect, given the R-rated horror audience is a sliver compared to the potential audience for a new kids' movie these days!

 

[TalkingHead]

Item 1 for Monday’s development meeting is gonna be Finding Squirt.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Unfortunate Elio bombed…which hurts potential for more new stories and less canned sequels.

Not a positive.

Let’s just not do this “thing” where we blow smoke around it…and move on

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

On the bright side…stitch Is still chugging in some strong returns…will pass Minecraft and be the first billionaire of the year…

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

On the bright side…stitch Is still chugging in some strong returns…will pass Minecraft and be the first billionaire of the year…

Barely, though. And it may hit that mark the same way Universal pushed Jurassic World: Dominion to hit a billion barely before it left theaters.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Item 1 for Monday’s development meeting is gonna be Finding Squirt.

Finding Coral seems more likely since there’s potential in a story where we find out, as I’ve always predicted, that Coral and a couple other of hers and Marlin’s kids survived the barracuda attack since we never saw her body.

And you all know the rules, if there’s no body, that doesn’t mean she’s dead.

 

[TP2000]

Box Office first pass estimate is in for this weekend, and for Elio this one is definitely an Oof!

Elio did below its already modest opening estimates, at $21 Million domestically. It's worse overseas, at only $14 Million from foreign lands. Elio has already opened in all major countries except Japan, Spain, and Finland (Nordic not Scandinavian!) .

The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for June 27, 2025

Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of June 27, 2025

thenumbers.com

 

[TP2000]

Here's how Elio's opening weekend haul of $21 Million domestically compares to recent SciFi animation from Burbank.

Hey, at least Elio beat Strange World's opening weekend!

But for only Pixar movies, Elio just scored the lowest box office debut in Pixar history. And that's unadjusted for inflation over the past 30 years. Oof!

Global Box Office: Pixar’s ‘Elio’ Craters With $35 Million, ‘28 Years Later’ Awakens to $60 Million

Disney and Pixar's animated adventure "Elio" crash-landed in its box office debut, earning a dismal $14 million overseas and $35 million globally.

variety.com

Pixar's New Movie Suffers Worst Box Office Opening In Studio History

The first Pixar movie debuted in 1995.

screenrant.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Barely, though. And it may hit that mark the same way Universal pushed Jurassic World: Dominion to hit a billion barely before it left theaters.

It’s been 5 weeks

You are excellent at scrounging social media 24/7 to the to find stuff to take and then repost as “news”…

But the understanding of context and details need work

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m just glad Elio has nothing remotely “controversial” about it that certain posters here might point to as a reason for its failure.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Man, the disparity between original content and familiar stuff is really remarkable.

It's not a slight hesitation, it's outright rejection.

It doesn't seem to be a case of quality product either, because Moana 2 was straight-to-DVD mediocrity and people came out in droves.

 

[Phroobar]

I’m just glad Elio has nothing remotely “controversial” about it that certain posters here might point to as a reason for its failure.

Even Disneyland doesn't seem to care enough about Elio to even put the character in the Pixar parade during its opening weekend.

 

[Disney Irish]

Even Disneyland doesn't seem to care enough about Elio to even put the character in the Pixar parade during its opening weekend.

In all fairness when was the last time Disneyland put a brand new movie character in a parade during its opening weekend? The 90s? 80s? I think it’s been a few decades since they’ve done it.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I’m just glad Elio has nothing remotely “controversial” about it that certain posters here might point to as a reason for its failure.

As we might say to other posters: too soon to call it a failure.

Bad timing against “Dragon” and, to a lesser degree, “Stitch.” Plenty of family fare from which to choose.

Reviews and word of mouth appear above average. School is out; maybe Elio pulls a Mufasa.

 

[Phroobar]

In all fairness when was the last time Disneyland put a brand new movie character in a parade during its opening weekend? The 90s? 80s? I think it’s been a few decades since they’ve done it.

Except it would be ideal marketing to do so now. They can't even bother to put up an advertising sign.

 

[Phroobar]

As we might say to other posters: too soon to call it a failure.

Bad timing against “Dragon” and, to a lesser degree, “Stitch.” Plenty of family fare from which to choose.

Reviews and word of mouth appear above average. School is out; maybe Elio pulls a Mufasa.

Except it should have come out last year. Disney knew the movie schedule and purposely put it there with very little advertising.