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[captveg]

they never themed entire showbuildings just the part that guests can see from inside the park lol. 360 builds only apply to attractions guests in the park can walk/ride a train around.

I really dont understand how people cant comprehend the difference between the 2 lol.

I do think there's a decent chance that the circle rocks have a bit more backside theming if only because it is right on the corner that will be approached by so many guests heading to both parks, and from that perspective is "front stage" facing. Perhaps only a certain % of the tops based on viewing angles, kinda like the tops of the various mountain peaks as seen from outside the park. The added height guests will have with the Eastern Gateway Bridge would only encourage a bit more themeing due to an additional elevated viewing angle. Time will tell.

 

[britain]

I do think there's a decent chance that the circle rocks have a bit more backside theming if only because it is right on the corner that will be approached by so many guests heading to both parks, and from that perspective is "front stage" facing. Perhaps only a certain % of the tops based on viewing angles, kinda like the tops of the various mountain peaks as seen from outside the park. The added height guests will have with the Eastern Gateway Bridge would only encourage a bit more themeing due to an additional elevated viewing angle. Time will tell.

Yes, I think the back of the rocks will be as themed as the back of Space Mountain. The building below them, however, will be as themed as the buildings below Space Mountain.

 

[Parteecia]

It’s the best hot dog I’ve ever had. I get the plain one and then just put ketchup on it.

The best hot dog is Hebrew National on a Kings Hawaiian bun. Full stop. Add or don't add whatever you want.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Haha I know you’re joking but at the thought of Tiana’s Foods. An Orange Grove though …

Obviously considering all factors/ constraints Hollywood Blvd needs to remain a “street.” So there really aren’t many options or wouldn’t be worth any major investment. So a BVS-type upgrade is probably the best case scenario. You re talking from Disney Junior to Animation Building on one one side of the street and from that little generic merch shop to Award Weiners on the other. Not sure what the fate of Smoozies and the facades on the end of the street is.

I legitimately have no idea what Disney is planning here (long-term). The most likely (and best) options would be incorporating the remaining Hollywood area into Avengers Campus or into Buena Vista Street (either is fine by me, even though I'd prefer more BVS).

However, I wouldn't put it past them to just leave the street as is for 30 more years, a weird tiny unnecessary "land" with no quality attractions. This is my fear, actually.

 

[mickEblu]

I legitimately have no idea what Disney is planning here (long-term). The most likely (and best) options would be incorporating the remaining Hollywood area into Avengers Campus or into Buena Vista Street (either is fine by me, even though I'd prefer more BVS).

However, I wouldn't put it past them to just leave the street as is for 30 more years, a weird tiny unnecessary "land" with no quality attractions. This is my fear, actually.

Yeah for them to actually upgrade the Hollywood facades to BVS quality would be a real labor of love as that area already feels like an extension of BVS and it wouldn’t generate any extra revenue. I’m not sure if Hollywood Blvd being reassigned to BVS would be enough motivation for them to invest in those facades.

Please no Avengers Campus. Especially if it looks anything like Avengers Campus proper.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Yeah for them to actually upgrade the Hollywood facades to BVS quality would be a real labor of love as that area already feels like an extension of BVS and it wouldn’t generate any extra revenue. I’m not sure if Hollywood Blvd being reassigned to BVS would be enough motivation for them to invest in those facades.

Please no Avengers Campus. Especially if it looks anything like Avengers Campus proper.

Sadly you're probably right.

I just can't buy this as part of Buena Vista Street.

 

[mickEblu]

Sadly you're probably right.

I just can't buy this as part of Buena Vista Street.

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I gotta say - I don’t mind this facade at all. What don’t you like about it? It’s whimsical. I dunno if it’s because Hollywood Blvd facades often get lumped in with the crappy backlot to create the perception that they are equally as $hitty as that part of the land but I don’t find them to be awful. They do the job. Perhaps certain ones could be better but the animation building and bathrooms are definitely fine to me.

EDIT: oh you meant thematically. Yeah thats probably a stretch. Quality wise though I feel like its fine.

 

[Gusey]

Is the Animation building the only place where you can meet Anna and Elsa at Disneyland? If so, I feel like the popularity of Frozen (and the upcoming sequels) means that meet and greet will be around for a long time, unless they decide to move the meet and greet somewhere else?

 

[truecoat]

I do think there's a decent chance that the circle rocks have a bit more backside theming if only because it is right on the corner that will be approached by so many guests heading to both parks, and from that perspective is "front stage" facing. Perhaps only a certain % of the tops based on viewing angles, kinda like the tops of the various mountain peaks as seen from outside the park. The added height guests will have with the Eastern Gateway Bridge would only encourage a bit more themeing due to an additional elevated viewing angle. Time will tell.

Especially since the EG will have to go over the Monorail so it will be quite high in that area.

 

[Professortango1]

Is the Animation building the only place where you can meet Anna and Elsa at Disneyland? If so, I feel like the popularity of Frozen (and the upcoming sequels) means that meet and greet will be around for a long time, unless they decide to move the meet and greet somewhere else?

I mean, they could put that meet and greet anywhere. Whenver I go to AA, its always closed. And its annoying as that used to be the exit to Animation Acadamy and allowed much better flow and crowd control than keeping everyone corralled in makeshift switchbacks spilling out onto Hollywood Blvd rather than in the lobby for AA.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I gotta say - I don’t mind this facade at all. What don’t you like about it? It’s whimsical. I dunno if it’s because Hollywood Blvd facades often get lumped in with the crappy backlot to create the perception that they are equally as $hitty as that part of the land but I don’t find them to be awful. They do the job. Perhaps certain ones could be better but the animation building and bathrooms are definitely fine to me.

EDIT: oh you meant thematically. Yeah thats probably a stretch. Quality wise though I feel like its fine.

Oh yeah, in terms of general aesthetic quality, it's a perfectly appealing building. But if we're talking 1930s/1940s "the Hollywood that never was and always will be," I have a different sensibility in mind (and it's Disney's own fault).

And if we're talking sanitized 1920s Los Angeles circa Walt Disney's arrival, I don't think the Animation Academy really meets the standards of what's right around the corner.

 

[mickEblu]

Oh yeah, in terms of general aesthetic quality, it's a perfectly appealing building. But if we're talking 1930s/1940s "the Hollywood that never was and always will be," I have a different sensibility in mind (and it's Disney's own fault).

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And if we're talking sanitized 1920s Los Angeles circa Walt Disney's arrival, I don't think the Animation Academy really meets the standards of what's right around the corner.

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It’s funny - when it comes to the still image I prefer the animation building to any of those BVS buildings but obviously that doesn’t paint the full picture or mean that the animation building is contributing to better place making.

No the Animation Building doesn’t really fit with the BVS theming. I wonder what Disney would be more likely to do in that situation? Leave Hollywoodland as its own land even though it’s just a tiny strip of a land with the animation building as an attraction (and Philharmagic for now) or would they reassign it to BVS? And if they do the latter would they find retheming the facade of the animation building worth it when most guests won’t notice or care? Not to mention it’s at the far end of the land/ street. I mean Hollywoodland of the 40s (not that the facade really screams 40s to me) at the tail end of BVS of the 20s/30s. I dunno that’s its huge deal. It’s still early 20th century Hollywood/ Burbank and even today just feels like a less fleshed out extension of BVS. Seems less awkward than leaving a little strip of land from Cathay to the animation building as its own land. Of course all this is assuming that Hyperion eventually goes to Pandora or AC. I think it’s gradual enough of a change from BVS to the animation building to where it’s not a big deal. If it was like right next door to Cathay or the Elias department store it would probably be somewhat jarring. And it definitely makes more sense than Pooh in Bayou Country.

 

[coffeefan]

I don't think they need to keep the Hollywood street, and with Cars Land there it's kinda redundant to have another street land. I would hope they get creative with the land and make a more interesting layout. I see some options, so I would hope creatives at WDI do as well. But it would cost more of course.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I don't think they need to keep the Hollywood street, and with Cars Land there it's kinda redundant to have another street land.

Under the same logic, we need to close Adventureland, Frontierland, and Tomorrowland at the park next door.

We already have Fantasyland, we don't need more "_____land" lands.

 

[coffeefan]

Under the same logic, we need to close Adventureland, Frontierland, and Tomorrowland at the park next door.

We already have Fantasyland, we don't need more "_____land" lands.

I don't think the comparison is the same. All those lands have different layouts. It's more interesting to have different land designs.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I don't think the comparison is the same. All those lands have different layouts. It's more interesting to have different land designs.

And I don't feel like people are paying all that much attention to that aspect of land design. And at DLR in particular, beggars can't really be choosers, there are only so many land designs that make sense in the limited amount of space they have. If the content of each land is sufficiently entertaining and fits together thematically, that should be enough for most people to find a land engaging.

I think just about anyone would get on board with replacing Hollywoodland, which does have very real flaws, but I doubt hardly anyone here would say the main reason would be because it's too similar to Cars Land.

"I am disappointed because this street land is just a long corridor with attractions and services on both sides, just like that other street land"-I'm not so sure this is a common opinion.

 

[coffeefan]

And I don't feel like people are paying all that much attention to that aspect of land design. And at DLR in particular, beggars can't really be choosers, there are only so many land designs that make sense in the limited amount of space they have. If the content of each land is sufficiently entertaining and fits together thematically, that should be enough for most people to find a land engaging.

I think just about anyone would get on board with replacing Hollywoodland, which does have very real flaws, but I doubt hardly anyone here would say the main reason would be because it's too similar to Cars Land.

"I am disappointed because this street land is just a long corridor with attractions and services on both sides, just like that other street land"-I'm not so sure this is a common opinion.

I didn't say the main reason is because it's too much like Cars Land. Huck, if it was similar in quality to Cars Land I would be stocked.

The land is awful, I've said it many years... My point is that if they're going to redo the land, they may as well redesign the layout if the funding is there. Also just a nudge against the notion that only a corridor style is possible, because it's not.

Look at it this way - if Fantasyland, Adventureland, Frontierland etc were all corridor style lands with a long straight street and all attractions on one side or the other they would not be as immersive and magical either. Maybe I just have higher expectations for WDI.

 

[mickEblu]

I'I think you interpret too much things I didn't say. I didn't say the main reason is because it's too much like Cars Land. Huck, if it was similar in quality to Cars Land I would be stocked.

The land is awful, I've said it many years... My point is that if they're going to redo the land, they may as well redesign the layout if the funding is there. Also just a nudge against the notion that only a corridor style is possible, because it's not.

Look at it this way - if Fantasyland, Adventureland, Frontierland etc were all corridor style lands with a long straight street and all attractions on one side or the other they would not be as immersive and magical either. Maybe you just have lower expectations for WDI.

How can you redesign the land? There’s pretty much no room to have anything other than a street there and while they might be able to get creative whatever else they cook up in that limited amount of space wouldn’t be worth the effort or resources. This maybe could have made sense when we didn’t know Pandora was going in the backlot/ bus transport but even then I’d argue the flow from BVS and the hub would have presented issues. On the other side you have backstage space behind animation building between AC that I’m pretty sure they can’t get rid of. I don’t think expecting or hoping for heavy investment in this little bit of land between Pandora and Avengers Campus is realistic. I would expect Pandora, AC or both to grow into surrounding area like the Hyperion, Animation and Philharmagic while they keep the rest Hollywood/ BVS themed which requires no investment and then they can repurpose those areas listed above when and how they see fit. Or leave the Philharmagic theatre where they can introduced new shows and Animation Building which serves its purpose. Hyperion of the 3 I imagine has the least chance of survival due to its size and prime location.

 

[mickEblu]

So the below in orange has to be what will be the Pandora restaurant in Stage 12 right?

 

[Disney Analyst]

How can you redesign the land? There’s pretty much no room to have anything other than a street there and while they might be able to get creative whatever else they cook up in that limited amount of space wouldn’t be worth the effort or resources. This maybe could have made sense when we didn’t know Pandora was going in the backlot/ bus transport but even then I’d argue the flow from BVS and the hub would have presented issues. On the other side you have backstage space behind animation building between AC that I’m pretty sure they can’t get rid of. I don’t think expecting or hoping for heavy investment in this little bit of land between Pandora and Avengers Campus is realistic. I would expect Pandora, AC or both to grow into surrounding area like the Hyperion, Animation and Philharmagic while they keep the rest Hollywood/ BVS themed which requires no investment and then they can repurpose those areas listed above when and how they see fit. Or leave the Philharmagic theatre where they can introduced new shows and Animation Building which serves its purpose. Hyperion of the 3 I imagine has the least chance of survival due to its size and prime location.

I mean… if they levelled all of this, there is a lot of space…