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Lilofan

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I have this theory about political climate and women's workouts/body shape. I knew who was going to win the last election based on the types of workouts that were becoming popular last year. I saw Pilates getting really popular and it was because of the slender, "toned" body it produces. Another indicator for me is an increase of the term "feminine" to describe women's bodies as an ideal. Whenever the other party is in office, it's all strength training, grow your glutes, thick thighs save lives messaging and workouts. It's just an observation and I haven't looked deeply at anything.
Knew some guys and girls that focused on strength training and some grow your glutes. A number of positive benefits but some went beyond over training and are paying the price either way with nagging injuries and continual rehab. For a number of years I was really into strength training and getting injured really was a downer. For the last few years I’m a daily lap swimmer and no injuries to speak of. Toned my body to the point it’s down to my high school weight and the one thing I have to really up is my calorie intake since long swim sessions in the pool really burns up a lot of calories.
 

Sans Souci

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Wow....that sounds kind of snobby....like you aren't good enough for them if you haven't been to college? Not everyone needs a college degree! So did your husband actually quit his job now?

Yeah. I don't know what their problem is. My BIL's wife doesn't like anyone in my husband's family, so they think I should just accept it and not call anyone out about it. My MIL tolerates it because she was worried about not being able to see my BIL and his kids. I don't need to kept in line like that. My BIL's wife is like a "Pick Me" type of person, she tries so hard to be this quirky, unique person that it feels really inauthentic.The first time I met her, I was wearing jeans. She looked at me and said, "Ugh. Nobody wears denim anymore." WHO talks like that to someone they just met?! Meanwhile, she looked like someone blindfolded her and let her loose in Goodwill. Then I offended her because she later asked if I liked the Spice Girls and I said that I didn't because I thought I was the wrong demographic for them. She said, "Well, *I* think they are brilliant." OK, then. :hilarious:

My husband is still working at his job. He thinks there won't be a RIF because so many people took the buyout. In fact. so many people wanted to take the buyout, they had to tell some people they couldn't because they would have been seriously understaffed. He is safe...for now.
 

Sans Souci

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Just checking with yoga and walking. My big toes always get so shredded when I do yoga in the summer, though. The skin gets abraded from the friction from the humid air and the yoga mat from jumping into planks. It kind of hurts. I need to get some athletic tape for my toes, I think.

We tried to go to Atlantic City last week, but my husband ignored my suggestion to find a parking lot before we left. So we were driving all over to find a lot that was suitable enough for him. He saw a few prostitutes and saw that it had a bit of an edge, so he decided to leave. It was daytime and I honestly didn't feel the unease he did. He asked me if I knew "it was going to like that." I told him that I expected some sketchiness because of the casinos. So, we drove to Ocean City, found a little cafe that was on the bay, had lunch outside, and went home. lol
 

Songbird76

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Yeah. I don't know what their problem is. My BIL's wife doesn't like anyone in my husband's family, so they think I should just accept it and not call anyone out about it. My MIL tolerates it because she was worried about not being able to see my BIL and his kids. I don't need to kept in line like that. My BIL's wife is like a "Pick Me" type of person, she tries so hard to be this quirky, unique person that it feels really inauthentic.The first time I met her, I was wearing jeans. She looked at me and said, "Ugh. Nobody wears denim anymore." WHO talks like that to someone they just met?! Meanwhile, she looked like someone blindfolded her and let her loose in Goodwill. Then I offended her because she later asked if I liked the Spice Girls and I said that I didn't because I thought I was the wrong demographic for them. She said, "Well, *I* think they are brilliant." OK, then. :hilarious:

My husband is still working at his job. He thinks there won't be a RIF because so many people took the buyout. In fact. so many people wanted to take the buyout, they had to tell some people they couldn't because they would have been seriously understaffed. He is safe...for now.
Goodness...who died and made her fashion and culture Goddess? Is she Lady Catherine De Bourgh?? My BIL's ex-wife was....not really like THAT so much, but very controlling and everyone walked on eggshells around her. We couldn't do anything without her permission. Like, if we were planning Christmas dinner, we had to check with her before anything was decided, and she'd throw a fit if things weren't done her way. When I first moved over here, it was in November, about a month before my birthday. My mom and my dog had just died, I had given up my job, my home, EVERYTHING to move overseas where I knew NO ONE, and didn't speak the language. She didn't feel comfortable speaking English, so she basically wouldn't talk to me. My in-laws insisted I HAD to celebrate my birthday, even though I didn't want to. They basically did the "You're living in OUR house, so you have to live by OUR rules, and we want you to have a birthday party." They not only invited BIL and SIL, they let them pick the date so they would know it worked for their schedules. So we said we'd do cake and such at 3 on that day, and then have a nice dinner together at 5 or so. No problem. They showed up at 4, wouldn't eat the cake, and then left 45 minutes later, before dinner, because "We've been planning to go to the movies with Stef for months, so we can't stay." THEY picked the date weeks before....if they had plans, why did they pick that date? And how do you plan the movies MONTHS in advance when you don't even know what exactly will be playing when??

Then at Christmas, she insisted it was just too expensive now that my husband had brought me over, so instead of buying presents for everyone, we should draw names, and everyone just buy one gift, for a maximum of 12.50 euros. Everyone should make a list of things under that amount so the person who got your name knew what to get you. DH got her name, but she was too lazy to actually go and look for things that were under that amount, so almost her entire list was over the price limit that SHE set. The only things we could get from her list were a lipstick, and kleenex. (Yes. She put kleenex on her Christmas list.) Not very much fun to give really, so we decided to be creative. We got a big package of the little pocket-size kleenex and I wrapped them in different ways. Two packets stacked on top of each other, two end to end, 4 in a rectangle, etc. That way she got kleenex but had more to unwrap. I grew up poor....all my gifts were things I needed, like new socks, batteries, scotch tape, shampoo. It was just so we had something to open, and we appreciated that we got a gift. Well, she obviously had never been poor, because the first packet she opened she frowned and said "This wasn't on my list." We said yes, it was....and we showed her the list. "No, I wanted the kind in the box. Not this." But she hadn't specified. Then every time it was her turn to open, she would just go "Oh....it's going to be more of these. You go." and wouldn't even open them. My MIL had even bought a few things for her, like a glass cake plate. (She got me one, too) SIL says "What will I do with this?" So then the next year, we had to do things differently, because she didn't like the way it turned out and she hadn't gotten anything she asked for except lipstick. And every holiday, birthday, etc was like that. Oh no, you couldn't have your party that day because her aunt was celebrating this, or we couldn't do it that way, because she didn't think that sounded fun.

She even kept my BIL from coming to our wedding. She hadn't wanted to come in the first place because she didn't want to go to the States. My in-laws were paying for them to come. My MIL had wanted to fly in a week or two early and visit New York and stuff before coming to the wedding and SIL didn't want to. So they canceled. Then September 11th happened a week and a half before our wedding and she refused to get on a plane, and told BIL that he couldn't come either because it would make her too nervous that he was on a plane. So he missed our wedding. He was supposed to be the best man and he called in tears saying she wouldn't let him come, that if he came, she said she would have to go to a mental hospital. That really manipulative, controlling thing is just.... :banghead: I feel your pain. Is there any way to just...avoid her? Spend as little time with her as possible?
 

Lilofan

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Just checking with yoga and walking. My big toes always get so shredded when I do yoga in the summer, though. The skin gets abraded from the friction from the humid air and the yoga mat from jumping into planks. It kind of hurts. I need to get some athletic tape for my toes, I think.

We tried to go to Atlantic City last week, but my husband ignored my suggestion to find a parking lot before we left. So we were driving all over to find a lot that was suitable enough for him. He saw a few prostitutes and saw that it had a bit of an edge, so he decided to leave. It was daytime and I honestly didn't feel the unease he did. He asked me if I knew "it was going to like that." I told him that I expected some sketchiness because of the casinos. So, we drove to Ocean City, found a little cafe that was on the bay, had lunch outside, and went home. lol
Wow we have not been to Atlantic City in years and it was seedy near the casinos. Looks like not much has changed.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Just checking in. Things have been busy. Still on track...for the most part and the scale is still moving; however, I'm back to checking it here and there vs. every day. It was down another 3 lbs over the last week, so something is still going right. This week, we take this on the road and see how I do with a hotel gym, minimal room kitchen options, and dining out potential. I am motivated though to stick to it. Aside from progress, I gave myself some leeway yesterday for Father's Day so that I started building in sustainability elements. I went pretty lean with my entree but indulged in other areas. The reality is that I walked 7 miles in the morning, did nearly 45 minutes on the elliptical at the gym, did a full leg circuit with obliques at the end, and ate light at lunch. So, it probably didn't hurt much, if at all. Add in that I walked a hair over 12 miles on Saturday, biked for about 5.5, and did some light arm work (while also sticking to my standard deficit range) and still probably in a major deficit for the weekend.

We start traveling for travel ball this week. We get to go to Oklahoma, which is not exactly exciting...well, unless you're Kendall! Speaking of...she got a job. It's not the greatest thing (Denny's) but it's money and it's waiting experience that could help down the road. She had her first overnight shift last night, but again...it's money and experience. Now if I could just get some rest. Work has been insane and my mind is on overdrive. I literally need all of this extra cardio for sanity. Speaking of cardio, did I share that some woman at the gym keeps challenging me? Every elliptical open and she insists on getting right next to me to try and pace with me...not to mention peaking over and being nosey even though I keep my display covered. People!
 

Sans Souci

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Goodness...who died and made her fashion and culture Goddess? Is she Lady Catherine De Bourgh?? My BIL's ex-wife was....not really like THAT so much, but very controlling and everyone walked on eggshells around her. We couldn't do anything without her permission. Like, if we were planning Christmas dinner, we had to check with her before anything was decided, and she'd throw a fit if things weren't done her way. When I first moved over here, it was in November, about a month before my birthday. My mom and my dog had just died, I had given up my job, my home, EVERYTHING to move overseas where I knew NO ONE, and didn't speak the language. She didn't feel comfortable speaking English, so she basically wouldn't talk to me. My in-laws insisted I HAD to celebrate my birthday, even though I didn't want to. They basically did the "You're living in OUR house, so you have to live by OUR rules, and we want you to have a birthday party." They not only invited BIL and SIL, they let them pick the date so they would know it worked for their schedules. So we said we'd do cake and such at 3 on that day, and then have a nice dinner together at 5 or so. No problem. They showed up at 4, wouldn't eat the cake, and then left 45 minutes later, before dinner, because "We've been planning to go to the movies with Stef for months, so we can't stay." THEY picked the date weeks before....if they had plans, why did they pick that date? And how do you plan the movies MONTHS in advance when you don't even know what exactly will be playing when??

Then at Christmas, she insisted it was just too expensive now that my husband had brought me over, so instead of buying presents for everyone, we should draw names, and everyone just buy one gift, for a maximum of 12.50 euros. Everyone should make a list of things under that amount so the person who got your name knew what to get you. DH got her name, but she was too lazy to actually go and look for things that were under that amount, so almost her entire list was over the price limit that SHE set. The only things we could get from her list were a lipstick, and kleenex. (Yes. She put kleenex on her Christmas list.) Not very much fun to give really, so we decided to be creative. We got a big package of the little pocket-size kleenex and I wrapped them in different ways. Two packets stacked on top of each other, two end to end, 4 in a rectangle, etc. That way she got kleenex but had more to unwrap. I grew up poor....all my gifts were things I needed, like new socks, batteries, scotch tape, shampoo. It was just so we had something to open, and we appreciated that we got a gift. Well, she obviously had never been poor, because the first packet she opened she frowned and said "This wasn't on my list." We said yes, it was....and we showed her the list. "No, I wanted the kind in the box. Not this." But she hadn't specified. Then every time it was her turn to open, she would just go "Oh....it's going to be more of these. You go." and wouldn't even open them. My MIL had even bought a few things for her, like a glass cake plate. (She got me one, too) SIL says "What will I do with this?" So then the next year, we had to do things differently, because she didn't like the way it turned out and she hadn't gotten anything she asked for except lipstick. And every holiday, birthday, etc was like that. Oh no, you couldn't have your party that day because her aunt was celebrating this, or we couldn't do it that way, because she didn't think that sounded fun.

She even kept my BIL from coming to our wedding. She hadn't wanted to come in the first place because she didn't want to go to the States. My in-laws were paying for them to come. My MIL had wanted to fly in a week or two early and visit New York and stuff before coming to the wedding and SIL didn't want to. So they canceled. Then September 11th happened a week and a half before our wedding and she refused to get on a plane, and told BIL that he couldn't come either because it would make her too nervous that he was on a plane. So he missed our wedding. He was supposed to be the best man and he called in tears saying she wouldn't let him come, that if he came, she said she would have to go to a mental hospital. That really manipulative, controlling thing is just.... :banghead: I feel your pain. Is there any way to just...avoid her? Spend as little time with her as possible?

I notice you said "ex". That sounds like a good thing. It seems like your ILs centered gatherings around her preferences. My BIL's wife is a vegetarian and my MIL would make something vegetarian for her when she would visit. She would complain that MIL's veggie dishes tasted like there was meat in it. So, then my MIL started buying pre-made meals at the supermarket for her and she complained about not getting a home cooked meal. So, she started bringing her food and made BIL cook her meal for her. lol You can't win for losing with her.

She asked for Kleenex, you gave her Kleenex and she's crabby about getting travel packs of Kleenex. The stuff in the box works the same as the stuff in the travel packs. It just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. That is too bad about your BIL not going to your wedding because of her. I understand her feeling uncomfortable about flying, but threatening to check herself into to a psych ward if your BIL attended your wedding is evil. How awful. That must've been upsetting for your husband for him not to have his brother there.
 

Sans Souci

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Just checking in. Things have been busy. Still on track...for the most part and the scale is still moving; however, I'm back to checking it here and there vs. every day. It was down another 3 lbs over the last week, so something is still going right. This week, we take this on the road and see how I do with a hotel gym, minimal room kitchen options, and dining out potential. I am motivated though to stick to it. Aside from progress, I gave myself some leeway yesterday for Father's Day so that I started building in sustainability elements. I went pretty lean with my entree but indulged in other areas. The reality is that I walked 7 miles in the morning, did nearly 45 minutes on the elliptical at the gym, did a full leg circuit with obliques at the end, and ate light at lunch. So, it probably didn't hurt much, if at all. Add in that I walked a hair over 12 miles on Saturday, biked for about 5.5, and did some light arm work (while also sticking to my standard deficit range) and still probably in a major deficit for the weekend.

We start traveling for travel ball this week. We get to go to Oklahoma, which is not exactly exciting...well, unless you're Kendall! Speaking of...she got a job. It's not the greatest thing (Denny's) but it's money and it's waiting experience that could help down the road. She had her first overnight shift last night, but again...it's money and experience. Now if I could just get some rest. Work has been insane and my mind is on overdrive. I literally need all of this extra cardio for sanity. Speaking of cardio, did I share that some woman at the gym keeps challenging me? Every elliptical open and she insists on getting right next to me to try and pace with me...not to mention peaking over and being nosey even though I keep my display covered. People!

That's amazing about the 3 lbs. Well done! 🎉

Oh boy, working overnights at Denny's. I'm sure she'll have some interesting stories to tell--stoners ordering everything on the menu, the drunken post-bar crowd, etc. I worked at Starbucks in between undergrad and grad school. I had student loans to pay off and I was only minutes away from my son's day care, if he got sick, etc.
 

Sans Souci

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Checking in with yoga and walking.

My husband wanted to celebrate Father's Day on Saturday, because it was supposed to be the nicer of the two days. I made an "eclair" cake with vanilla pudding and graham crackers. I was feeling lazy. lol I didn't care for it and I've had this so many times over the years. I don't know if it was the recipe I used, but it was just way too much filling to graham cracker. My husband and my son inhaled it, though, which is fine by me. My husband made burgers from grass-fed beef. I don't know if I am a beef philistine, but I really don't like the taste. Everyone says it tastes so much better, but it tastes gamey to me. I am not a big meat-eater anyway, so all of the nuance about corn-fed v grass-fed is probably lost on me. Also, I went to a march on Saturday. There were many more people and many more younger people showing up. There were good vibes and no drama. I brought my American 🇺🇸 flag with me and another person at the march gave me a cardboard crown to wear. lol
 

Sans Souci

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I started out doing yoga this AM and there was just too much extraneous chatter. I had to turn it off, so I did a back workout instead. Yoga is a lot of "pushing" and back workouts are a lot of pulling movements, so it's probably a good idea to mix it up to prevent one of group of muscles become more dominant than others. That's how you get injured. I went for a long walk, too.

My son still doesn't have his UK passport, in fact, they closed his application. He put 4 different people forward for verification and they were all denied. My son wrote a letter asking them to accept the verification from his doctor and explained that he is on the spectrum and doesn't really socialize. So, he's waiting on a response. My husband was going to take him to the embassy to get this sorted out, but I think this can be done at the consulate in NYC. I would feel so much better if he had this passport in hand.
 

Songbird76

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I notice you said "ex". That sounds like a good thing. It seems like your ILs centered gatherings around her preferences. My BIL's wife is a vegetarian and my MIL would make something vegetarian for her when she would visit. She would complain that MIL's veggie dishes tasted like there was meat in it. So, then my MIL started buying pre-made meals at the supermarket for her and she complained about not getting a home cooked meal. So, she started bringing her food and made BIL cook her meal for her. lol You can't win for losing with her.

She asked for Kleenex, you gave her Kleenex and she's crabby about getting travel packs of Kleenex. The stuff in the box works the same as the stuff in the travel packs. It just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. That is too bad about your BIL not going to your wedding because of her. I understand her feeling uncomfortable about flying, but threatening to check herself into to a psych ward if your BIL attended your wedding is evil. How awful. That must've been upsetting for your husband for him not to have his brother there.
Yes, well, she IS mentally ill, and he knew that before he married her. His parents sat him down to make sure he knew what he was getting himself into, but he has a kidney issue...he has a transplant, but hadn't done that yet at the time. He constantly got infections in his joints and was often sick because his kidneys don't function. So he said that she accepted that about him, how coud he do less for her? In the end, I think SHE's the one who asked for a divorce and then kind of freaked out when he agreed, and she ended up in a psych ward then. My nephew was 4 then, and my MIL had gone to visit her in the hospital when she had been there for a few weeks, and she asked her if she didn't miss her son a lot, and she said "Not really. I have a picture." She's just very self-centered. She initially got primary custody of him...they agreed on it, but when he got older, he asked to move to his dad's because mom was so checked out. She mostly dropped him off with her parents anyway, and then her parents would call my BIL and invite him over, so he still has a great relationship with them. But everyone has always catered to her because she was fragile and no one wanted to be the reason she had to go to the hospital. So she just learned how to manipulate people to get her way and expected everyone around her to give her what she wanted, and most people did. And she always wanted attention focused on her....we think that's probably why she didn't want to come to our wedding in the first place. The attention wouldn't be on her, she wouldn't get her way. And since no one knew her and she didn't speak a lot of English, it would be hard for her to make demands. And she didn't want BIL to go, because then there was no one to wait on her. September 11th just gave her an excuse. That's what we think, anyway. She was on medication and hadn't had an episode for quite a while, so it was just a manipulation. When they got married, they did it in a courthouse, as most people in the Netherlands do. Most people don't get married in a church and a church marriage isn't recognized by the government....you have to do both if you want the benefits of a recognized marriage. So they didn't do that, but then they had their son and wanted to get him baptized, but she couldn't stand that the focus would be on her baby and not on her, so she decided they should also get married in the church at the same time. She loved being pregnant and having everyone ask how far along she was, how she was feeling, if she knew whether it was a boy or girl, etc....she craves that attention. And when he was little, she loved the attention from people saying how cute he was, asking how old he was, etc. Then when he got past the adorable baby/toddler stage, she wasn't getting attention from it anymore, so she largely ignored him, which is why he asked to go live with my BIL instead when he was a teenager. She had started dating some guy on the internet who lived across the netherlands and suddenly wanted to move there to be close to him, but BIL wouldn't let her. Part of their divorce agreement was that they both stay where they were, where they had a support system, etc. So the guy ended up moving there instead, and she immediately got pregnant so she would get all that attention again. She would drop my nephew off with her parents because she didn't want to bother with him, but she desperately wanted another baby. That's just who she is....she wants the world to revolve around her and has come to expect that it will because if it doesn't, she just says she'll end up in the hospital if someone doesn't do what she wants. And no one wants that guilt, so they give in.

When I came over before we were married, we had this idea to all go to a casino together, the whole family. No, she didn't think that sounded like fun. She didn't want to go to a casino. Two weeks later, they asked some friends of theirs to go to the casino with them. It wasn't that she didn't want to go to a casino....it's that she didn't want to go to a casino with US. Because then the attention is shared. She wants everyone to be focused on her and trying to keep her happy. She wants to make sure she gets more than anyone else, which is probably why the Christmas thing bothered her. She had put a bunch of expensive stuff on her list that went over the limit, assuming we would just have to pick one of those in order to give her something from her list. I don't think she ever thought someone would ACTUALLY buy her kleenex, because that's just not a fun gift to give. So it really bothered her that everyone else was getting fun gifts and she got.....kleenex. She was pouting that she wasn't getting the best gifts.

Is your BIL's wife still like this? Why does she make HIM make her food? Surely she's capable of making her own! My DH's family had a get together every year where they made Stampot.....all the cousins, aunts, uncles....the whole famn damily. I don't like stampot, so I always just brought a plate of food to heat up in the microwave. No biggie. I would never have expected something special to be prepared for me. If I don't want to eat what they have, I'll provide for myself. She sounds like a total diva!!
 

Songbird76

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Checking in with yoga and walking.

My husband wanted to celebrate Father's Day on Saturday, because it was supposed to be the nicer of the two days. I made an "eclair" cake with vanilla pudding and graham crackers. I was feeling lazy. lol I didn't care for it and I've had this so many times over the years. I don't know if it was the recipe I used, but it was just way too much filling to graham cracker. My husband and my son inhaled it, though, which is fine by me. My husband made burgers from grass-fed beef. I don't know if I am a beef philistine, but I really don't like the taste. Everyone says it tastes so much better, but it tastes gamey to me. I am not a big meat-eater anyway, so all of the nuance about corn-fed v grass-fed is probably lost on me. Also, I went to a march on Saturday. There were many more people and many more younger people showing up. There were good vibes and no drama. I brought my American 🇺🇸 flag with me and another person at the march gave me a cardboard crown to wear. lol
Is the eclair cake the thing where to mix coolwhip into the pudding for half the milk and later it over the graham crackers? Did you also use chocolate pudding? That's what we made every year for the 4th of July when I lived in the US. Then we'd use Blueberries and strawberries to make a flag on the top. I can't make that here because coolwhip doesn't exist, but we always loved it!!

There's definitely a different taste to meat depending on what they eat. I don't like Antelope meat, because it tastes too sagey, because they eat the sagebrush. And I remember when I moved over here, my MIL made hamburgers and I asked if there was seasoning in the meat, because it didn't taste like burger in Wyoming...it must just be what they eat.

I'm so glad there was no drama at the march. I'm hearing stories....and then I'm hearing stories that say those stories aren't true. It's getting...interesting? And not in a good way.
 

Sans Souci

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Yes, well, she IS mentally ill, and he knew that before he married her. His parents sat him down to make sure he knew what he was getting himself into, but he has a kidney issue...he has a transplant, but hadn't done that yet at the time. He constantly got infections in his joints and was often sick because his kidneys don't function. So he said that she accepted that about him, how coud he do less for her? In the end, I think SHE's the one who asked for a divorce and then kind of freaked out when he agreed, and she ended up in a psych ward then. My nephew was 4 then, and my MIL had gone to visit her in the hospital when she had been there for a few weeks, and she asked her if she didn't miss her son a lot, and she said "Not really. I have a picture." She's just very self-centered. She initially got primary custody of him...they agreed on it, but when he got older, he asked to move to his dad's because mom was so checked out. She mostly dropped him off with her parents anyway, and then her parents would call my BIL and invite him over, so he still has a great relationship with them. But everyone has always catered to her because she was fragile and no one wanted to be the reason she had to go to the hospital. So she just learned how to manipulate people to get her way and expected everyone around her to give her what she wanted, and most people did. And she always wanted attention focused on her....we think that's probably why she didn't want to come to our wedding in the first place. The attention wouldn't be on her, she wouldn't get her way. And since no one knew her and she didn't speak a lot of English, it would be hard for her to make demands. And she didn't want BIL to go, because then there was no one to wait on her. September 11th just gave her an excuse. That's what we think, anyway. She was on medication and hadn't had an episode for quite a while, so it was just a manipulation. When they got married, they did it in a courthouse, as most people in the Netherlands do. Most people don't get married in a church and a church marriage isn't recognized by the government....you have to do both if you want the benefits of a recognized marriage. So they didn't do that, but then they had their son and wanted to get him baptized, but she couldn't stand that the focus would be on her baby and not on her, so she decided they should also get married in the church at the same time. She loved being pregnant and having everyone ask how far along she was, how she was feeling, if she knew whether it was a boy or girl, etc....she craves that attention. And when he was little, she loved the attention from people saying how cute he was, asking how old he was, etc. Then when he got past the adorable baby/toddler stage, she wasn't getting attention from it anymore, so she largely ignored him, which is why he asked to go live with my BIL instead when he was a teenager. She had started dating some guy on the internet who lived across the netherlands and suddenly wanted to move there to be close to him, but BIL wouldn't let her. Part of their divorce agreement was that they both stay where they were, where they had a support system, etc. So the guy ended up moving there instead, and she immediately got pregnant so she would get all that attention again. She would drop my nephew off with her parents because she didn't want to bother with him, but she desperately wanted another baby. That's just who she is....she wants the world to revolve around her and has come to expect that it will because if it doesn't, she just says she'll end up in the hospital if someone doesn't do what she wants. And no one wants that guilt, so they give in.

When I came over before we were married, we had this idea to all go to a casino together, the whole family. No, she didn't think that sounded like fun. She didn't want to go to a casino. Two weeks later, they asked some friends of theirs to go to the casino with them. It wasn't that she didn't want to go to a casino....it's that she didn't want to go to a casino with US. Because then the attention is shared. She wants everyone to be focused on her and trying to keep her happy. She wants to make sure she gets more than anyone else, which is probably why the Christmas thing bothered her. She had put a bunch of expensive stuff on her list that went over the limit, assuming we would just have to pick one of those in order to give her something from her list. I don't think she ever thought someone would ACTUALLY buy her kleenex, because that's just not a fun gift to give. So it really bothered her that everyone else was getting fun gifts and she got.....kleenex. She was pouting that she wasn't getting the best gifts.

Is your BIL's wife still like this? Why does she make HIM make her food? Surely she's capable of making her own! My DH's family had a get together every year where they made Stampot.....all the cousins, aunts, uncles....the whole famn damily. I don't like stampot, so I always just brought a plate of food to heat up in the microwave. No biggie. I would never have expected something special to be prepared for me. If I don't want to eat what they have, I'll provide for myself. She sounds like a total diva!!

Yikes! Your ex-SIL sounds like my mom, except my mom uses illness to get attention.

No, my SIL is not like this. She is not a very manipulative person, but she is a snob. There is a north/south divide in England that is the opposite of the north/south divide in the US. My husband's family is from the north and she is from the south, so she always act likes she's slumming it with the poors when she comes to MIL's house. There is nothing trashy about my husband's family and he is from a pretty affluent village. It's just rich, because her family is kind of messed up. We were at their wedding reception and my husband and I were standing around talking. Her 17 year old sister came up to us, like she wanted to talk to us, farted loudly on purpose and ran away laughing. I told her she had no class. I don't care if I offended her; that's really rude. It made me think my SIL was talking about us to her family. Seventeen is too old to be doing that. Then, her brother can't go out drinking without taking his clothes off and running around town naked. The cops have to apprehend him and it's a big joke in their family. She says stuff like, "My family is eccentric." I'll bet if someone she deemed "lower class" behaved that, she would call them chavs or trash.

I think my BIL cooks for her because it's part of the "deal" of having to be around my ILs. Like, if I have to be around your family, you're going to cook for me. I do what you do if I don't like what's being served. Sometimes, I just want something light for dinner, especially if we go at Christmas time and it's non-stop, rich foods.
 

Sans Souci

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Is the eclair cake the thing where to mix coolwhip into the pudding for half the milk and later it over the graham crackers? Did you also use chocolate pudding? That's what we made every year for the 4th of July when I lived in the US. Then we'd use Blueberries and strawberries to make a flag on the top. I can't make that here because coolwhip doesn't exist, but we always loved it!!

There's definitely a different taste to meat depending on what they eat. I don't like Antelope meat, because it tastes too sagey, because they eat the sagebrush. And I remember when I moved over here, my MIL made hamburgers and I asked if there was seasoning in the meat, because it didn't taste like burger in Wyoming...it must just be what they eat.

I'm so glad there was no drama at the march. I'm hearing stories....and then I'm hearing stories that say those stories aren't true. It's getting...interesting? And not in a good way.

Yes, that's the one. I just made it with instant vanilla pudding, cool whip, dark chocolate frosting and graham crackers. If I made it again, I'd swap out whipped cream for the cool whip and make a dark chocolate ganache for the topping. I'd make less filling too, because the ratio felt off to me.

I just prefer corn-fed beef. I know it's bad for you, but I only eat it a few times a year. When we go to Scottsdale, the resort we stay at has steakhouse and I always get a filet. It is so tender--no grassy notes. lol

Yeah, I am worried about my brother. He is half-Cuban and is very dark. He has a Spanish last name and grew up speaking Spanish and English simultaneously, so he's super fluent. He owns his own business, but the economy is starting to slow down. He and his GF had a baby girl in March and he hangs around Home Depot in the AM to pick up construction work to make ends meet. I am worried he is going to get caught in an ICE raid and not know where he's gone. They have been apprehending men who are native born Americans who are Latino.
 

Sans Souci

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Hello-

Checking in with a triceps, biceps and shoulder and jump rope workout. I went for a very steamy walk as well. There is a heat advisory and I looked like a drowned rat when I was done. lol

My husband said he wants to go to the Food and Wine Festival in September. I have a room booked at Sheraton Vistana. I had a room at the Renaissance on Hotel Plaza Blvd, but this was really cheap (no presentation required), so I let the Renaissance booking go. We're just going for 3 nights, not a full blown vacation. I'm going to try to get MNSSHP tickets.

Callie is still coming inside to sleep at night. If I get up too late, she is at the top of the staircase waiting for me to emerge from my room. "Too late" to her is anything after 5:20 AM. lol
 

Songbird76

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Yikes! Your ex-SIL sounds like my mom, except my mom uses illness to get attention.

No, my SIL is not like this. She is not a very manipulative person, but she is a snob. There is a north/south divide in England that is the opposite of the north/south divide in the US. My husband's family is from the north and she is from the south, so she always act likes she's slumming it with the poors when she comes to MIL's house. There is nothing trashy about my husband's family and he is from a pretty affluent village. It's just rich, because her family is kind of messed up. We were at their wedding reception and my husband and I were standing around talking. Her 17 year old sister came up to us, like she wanted to talk to us, farted loudly on purpose and ran away laughing. I told her she had no class. I don't care if I offended her; that's really rude. It made me think my SIL was talking about us to her family. Seventeen is too old to be doing that. Then, her brother can't go out drinking without taking his clothes off and running around town naked. The cops have to apprehend him and it's a big joke in their family. She says stuff like, "My family is eccentric." I'll bet if someone she deemed "lower class" behaved that, she would call them chavs or trash.

I think my BIL cooks for her because it's part of the "deal" of having to be around my ILs. Like, if I have to be around your family, you're going to cook for me. I do what you do if I don't like what's being served. Sometimes, I just want something light for dinner, especially if we go at Christmas time and it's non-stop, rich foods.
Wow....they sound....um....classy. Had the 17 year old ever met you before, or was the wedding the first time? It seems very immature. It just sounds like BIL's wife feels superior and doesn't like your family much. It makes me wonder why she married your BIL...if that's what you think of his family, that doesn't really bode well. Part of the reason I broke up with my ex was because his mother was a real piece of work and I didn't want to get involved in that family. She couldn't seem to cut the apron strings and she had some bizarre ideas about relationships, etc and her older son actually ran away for three years because of her. Like, he disappeared on college break and they had no idea where he was for three years....he just never came back, and then one day called out of the blue to say he was getting married and wanted to reconcile. And his wedding was what really opened my eyes to what I was getting into. But why would BIL's wife want to be part of a family she seems to despise?

Yeah, I have very different taste from my in-laws. They love all the heavy, greasy meats and large amounts of mashed potatoes with vegetables mixed through them, and I don't like that. My FIL is not a steak person, so for our special meals, MIL always did pork tenderloin, which is fine, but not my favorite and not very fancy to me, so I started bringing a steak for myself, and I would cook it myself, so I would get something special to eat too. And their idea of dessert is plain yogurt with some cruesli in it. I don't like plain yogurt....I tried so hard to eat it for breakfast for a while, but I just can't stand it. If I'm going to ingest calories, I want it to be worth it, especially for dessert. I don't eat dessert every day, so when I do, I want it to be something delicious and decadent. It's a treat, not just something to end the meal. I would MUCH rather have more vegetables than yogurt for dessert. You guys eat your yogurt, and I will have some more green beans or brussels sprouts, please! And for Christmas, it was ice cream, but not vanilla or chocolate or anything....it's like...frozen whipped cream. It's fine, but not much flavor. So I started making a pan of brownies to bring for dessert and we would heat them up in the microwave and then top them with the ice cream. THAT is a dessert worthy of Christmas dinner for me. But I just realized that if I wanted to enjoy dinners with my in-laws, I was going to have to cook them myself because we just have different tastes. It's not that either of us is wrong, but Dutch cuisine is so different from what I was used to, and I never really got used to it.
 

Songbird76

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Yes, that's the one. I just made it with instant vanilla pudding, cool whip, dark chocolate frosting and graham crackers. If I made it again, I'd swap out whipped cream for the cool whip and make a dark chocolate ganache for the topping. I'd make less filling too, because the ratio felt off to me.

I just prefer corn-fed beef. I know it's bad for you, but I only eat it a few times a year. When we go to Scottsdale, the resort we stay at has steakhouse and I always get a filet. It is so tender--no grassy notes. lol

Yeah, I am worried about my brother. He is half-Cuban and is very dark. He has a Spanish last name and grew up speaking Spanish and English simultaneously, so he's super fluent. He owns his own business, but the economy is starting to slow down. He and his GF had a baby girl in March and he hangs around Home Depot in the AM to pick up construction work to make ends meet. I am worried he is going to get caught in an ICE raid and not know where he's gone. They have been apprehending men who are native born Americans who are Latino.
Is he a US Citizen? I know right now it doesn't seem to make a difference...they are picking up people who are there legally and snatching them with no warrents or anything. Does he have a passport? Maybe he could carry his passport with him? That might make it easier to get released if he DOES get picked up. And maybe make sure he has the number of a lawyer he can call, just in case. It's so scary that people have to go to such lengths now to be safe.
 

Songbird76

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I did Richard Simmons Dance your pants off or something? The sweatin' to the oldies that I had done a few times was gone from Youtube, and I tried a musical theater based one, but didn't feel like I got quite as good of a workout, so I looked for others, and saw this one from the 90s. It was good....I got my heart rate up, and it was like 50 minutes long and then I did some exercises for physical therapy after that, so I feel like it was a pretty good workout. Now to hope they don't remove that one, too.
 

Figgy1

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I did Richard Simmons Dance your pants off or something? The sweatin' to the oldies that I had done a few times was gone from Youtube, and I tried a musical theater based one, but didn't feel like I got quite as good of a workout, so I looked for others, and saw this one from the 90s. It was good....I got my heart rate up, and it was like 50 minutes long and then I did some exercises for physical therapy after that, so I feel like it was a pretty good workout. Now to hope they don't remove that one, too.
Hope this works on your side of the pond
 

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