EPCOT Test Track to be reimagined

larryz

larryz

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FigmentJedi said:
...the ride is most often described as an unlicensed adaptation of The African Queen because of the tramp steamers, to the point that the Jungle Cruise movie was a pseudo-remake of that film.
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lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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MJL92 said:
Wait until people find out that the castle was just a giant advertisement for a movie that came out 4 years later.
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This is not true annd another weird distortion of history.

The very first drawing of Disneyland proper shows a castle in Fantasyland. It is just the Fantasyland Castle. They briefly kick around the idea of naming it Snow White and only very late is the name Sleeping Beauty Castle decided upon. There was even a period of time after opening that the castle was still referred to as Fantasyland Castle. The design of castle had nothing to do with any movie. The inclusion of the castle had nothing to do with any movie.
 
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MJL92

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lazyboy97o said:
This is not true annd another weird distortion of history.

The very first drawing of Disneyland proper shows a castle in Fantasyland. It is just the Fantasyland Castle. They briefly kick around the idea of naming it Snow White and only very late is the name Sleeping Beauty Castle decided upon. There was even a period of time after opening that the castle was still referred to as Fantasyland Castle. The design of castle had nothing to do with any movie. The inclusion of the castle had nothing to do with any movie.
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And they slapped an IP on it to advertise an upcoming film. No different than the Walt Disney Company today is perfectly capable of coming up with excellent attractions and slapping an IP on it to hook in a new fanbase.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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lazyboy97o said:
This is not true annd another weird distortion of history.

The very first drawing of Disneyland proper shows a castle in Fantasyland. It is just the Fantasyland Castle. They briefly kick around the idea of naming it Snow White and only very late is the name Sleeping Beauty Castle decided upon. There was even a period of time after opening that the castle was still referred to as Fantasyland Castle. The design of castle had nothing to do with any movie. The inclusion of the castle had nothing to do with any movie.
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We see this contradiction in the opening TV special of Disneyland

A girl near the start says she wants to go "to the great, big castle, where Sleeping Beauty lives"

But in the opening dedication for the land itself, and announcer says:

"Open the Fantasyland castle, in the name of the children of the world!"
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Casper Gutman said:
This is a fantastic insight and I’m a bit embarrassed I never made the connection. Is it pulled from a source that elaborates on it? (Not to imply for a second that you aren’t capable of formulating it yourself - you’re a great poster).
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I'm taking credit for it, but fully admit in the vast amount of text I've read/heard about Disney...and not read, it's possible someone else came to the same conclusion before me.

But the name is the big tell, "Circarama" is obviously a riff on Cinerama, something that was a trend with all sorts of things being named after Cinerama's debut in 1952, even if it wasn't related to movies.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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FigmentJedi said:
Nature documentaries are not marketable IP. Nobody was riding the Jungle Cruise and going "Look, it's the famous and marketable character The African Lion from Disney's The African Lion". Hell, the ride is most often described as an unlicensed adaptation of The African Queen because of the tramp steamers, to the point that the Jungle Cruise movie was a pseudo-remake of that film.
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The African Lion was also released 2 months after Disneyland opened.

I've never liked the Birnbaum-guide-book trivia of Jungle Cruise being based on The African Queen. As much as it's a classic and does have a steamer in it, that's about all it has to do with the ride.

Disney's Jungle Cruise is like Pirates or Haunted Mansion. A pastiche of cultural influences, most notably jungle stories from the early 20th century through the media's peak in the 1930s with Tarzan, King Kong etc. It would have been nostalgic to a mid-50s audience raised on those pulpy novels and stories of their childhood.
 
Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Sullivan

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lazyboy97o said:
This is not true annd another weird distortion of history.

The very first drawing of Disneyland proper shows a castle in Fantasyland. It is just the Fantasyland Castle. They briefly kick around the idea of naming it Snow White and only very late is the name Sleeping Beauty Castle decided upon. There was even a period of time after opening that the castle was still referred to as Fantasyland Castle. The design of castle had nothing to do with any movie. The inclusion of the castle had nothing to do with any movie.
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So they didn’t design it to be attached to any IP but late in the game decided to add IP to the existing idea.

Now where have I heard a very recent, very similar chain of events before?
 
JohnD

JohnD

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TTA94 said:
Still angry Disney never officially released this. To my understanding what is out there such as this was some sort of recording correct?

I hope 3.0 has as good of an ear worm as this.
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From what I can tell, some dude showed up and hung out in the queue to record it. There IS an official recording of the main theme, though. I have it from a CD I bought in 2013. Or purchase it through Apple Music, etc.
 

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