MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Bocabear said:
I see no correction just more and more of the same...throw anything anywhere, it doesn't matter...there is no cohesion to the parks or design decisions...
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There is “correction” on the films and tv being produced…

Parks I hope will follow…but that’s far more tricky.

The problem is that they have gotten away with dumping the theming and running roughshod with parks to sell more upsells…

And whose fault? Ours…all of us for buying extra ticketed events, cupcake parties and line skips.

We reap what we have sown.
 
HMF

HMF

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
The whole point of doing this was to reduce ops cost and put a more “acceptable” spin on the ride

I’m not sure what people expected to be honest?
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Well, If they are going to replace something as popular as Splash and for the altruistic reasons they claimed they were doing it for. You would think they would want the replacement to actually be as good or better than what it is replacing. They failed in that respect.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Dreamer19 said:
Compare that with Universal’s Epic, who’s designers used a portal system to separate unconnected lands and IPs.

Were all of the good Imagineers poached by Universal?
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Many of them have already moved back to WDI, particularly Florida based started migrating en masse 18-24 months ago. Which isn’t an indictment against Universal. It’s naturally what happens when you’re winding down Florida investment having finished a whole park as the competition is spinning up.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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HMF said:
Well, If they are going to replace something as popular as Splash and for the altruistic reasons they claimed they were doing it for. You would think they would want the replacement to actually be as good or better than what it is replacing. They failed in that respect.
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Nope…I didn’t believe that for a second

Their primary concern was public perception…the second was doing a rehab on an aging, complex ride that results in a cheaper one in the short to intermediate term
 
FettFan

FettFan

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Bocabear

Bocabear

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James Alucobond said:
Obviously things going where they don’t fit is worse, but the portal concept is literally just the next-most lazy step up from that.
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it may be lazy, but creates a more coherent experience... If I know I am in the Old West and Suddenly I am in a Louisiana Swamp and then in Monument Valley and then in a land of living Automobiles, Portals would be a good way to at least mark a change...especially when all of these areas run together.... Gathering lands around a central Hub with a series of venues to different thematic lands was really the Disney Parks concept... But now as the themes break within the thematic established lands there should also be some way to delineate... If all of the current Frontierland were carefully redesigned to be a Louisiana Riverbend creating a gateway divide as you leave Liberty Square ( just past Golden Horseshoe..that area could make sense and give them the space to turn Tall Tale Cafe into a real Tiana's Palace...and make the Country in Country Bears refer a little less Tennessee and more Louisiana swamp..., but there would need to be some sort of visual device taking you from the swamps of Louisiana to Monument Valley and then to Carsland Piston Peak area...and one more for Villains Land if and when that comes online. The other lands don't seem to need a dividing device as much as the back half of the park will to make some visual sense....
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Dreamer19 said:
Compare that with Universal’s Epic, who’s designers used a portal system to separate unconnected lands and IPs.

Were all of the good Imagineers poached by Universal?
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Well, perhaps, but people also seem to switch from being very critical to being very forgiving when going from discussing Disney to Universal on here. There's a lot of great stuff there, but plenty of issues have also been noted with how actually separate from one another and the outside world those "portals" really are.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
There is “correction” on the films and tv being produced…

Parks I hope will follow…but that’s far more tricky.

The problem is that they have gotten away with dumping the theming and running roughshod with parks to sell more upsells…

And whose fault? Ours…all of us for buying extra ticketed events, cupcake parties and line skips.

We reap what we have sown.
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Blaming the victim never really works.....
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Bocabear said:
Blaming the victim never really works.....
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This is amusement parks…there are no “victims”

The problem is people think it’s their life…which is sad and not true

If this were viewed as a consumer product…which it is…people would demand quality/set limits/hold to account

They have a lot of people tied in knots
 
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DarkMetroid567

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Bocabear said:
it may be lazy, but creates a more coherent experience... If I know I am in the Old West and Suddenly I am in a Louisiana Swamp and then in Monument Valley and then in a land of living Automobiles, Portals would be a good way to at least mark a change...especially when all of these areas run together.... Gathering lands around a central Hub with a series of venues to different thematic lands was really the Disney Parks concept... But now as the themes break within the thematic established lands there should also be some way to delineate... If all of the current Frontierland were carefully redesigned to be a Louisiana Riverbend creating a gateway divide as you leave Liberty Square ( just past Golden Horseshoe..that area could make sense and give them the space to turn Tall Tale Cafe into a real Tiana's Palace...and make the Country in Country Bears refer a little less Tennessee and more Louisiana swamp..., but there would need to be some sort of visual device taking you from the swamps of Louisiana to Monument Valley and then to Carsland Piston Peak area...and one more for Villains Land if and when that comes online. The other lands don't seem to need a dividing device as much as the back half of the park will to make some visual sense....
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I disagree because Epic doesn’t commit well
enough to the concept. When you can see Wizarding Paris’ backstage from Stardust Racers’ queue or you can see Donkey Kong from Dark Universe, the marked change feels cheap. Islands, on the other hand, somehow feels more cohesive because they fully lean into mish-mash.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
DarkMetroid567 said:
I disagree because Epic doesn’t commit well
enough to the concept. When you can see Wizarding Paris’ backstage from Stardust Racers’ queue or you can see Donkey Kong from Dark Universe, the marked change feels cheap. Islands, on the other hand, somehow feels more cohesive because they fully lean into mish-mash.
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You know what’s lazy?…having multiple mishmashed Star Wars things in multiple spots in the same park….

Especially since they aren’t that great if they’re working
 

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