MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Incomudro]

I think you will find that most people don't have a problem with IP based attractions in general, they have a problem with IP exclusively, or it being forced into places where they feel it is inappropriate.

I understand.
I'm not for IP just for the sake of IP.
Just playing Devil's Advocate.
Anyone who ever stepped into a Disney Park when the parks first opened surely expected to see about as much Disney stuff as possible.
I'm quite certain the term IP wasn't even one the public really knew, or used.

 

[Dreamer19]

611 pages in, and I still see the same people repeating the same ridiculous talking points: "waste of space", "underutilized space", "good business move", etc, etc. Unless you're a Disney employee or own Disney stock, why do you care about that? What impact does that have on your park experience? If you're someone that says "I love Cars, looking forward to this area" or "I am excited for something new at MK", then I can respect that, because you are giving an opinion based on your enjoyment of the parks. The average guest shouldn't care about whats "best for business" for Disney.

I’m a shareholder and former CM and I am VEHEMENTLY against this plan.

I agree. If you are arguing for this because you sincerely like Cars or truly feel that they will do a good job on this and that MK won’t just become an expensive Six Flags….well, then great and good for you.

On the other hand, those defending with terms like “this will up their bottom line”

Great. How is that good for guests?

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

I’m a shareholder and former CM and I am VEHEMENTLY against this plan.

I agree. If you are arguing for this because you sincerely like Cars or truly feel that they will do a good job on this and that MK won’t just become an expensive Six Flags….well, then great and good for you.

On the other hand, those defending with terms like “this will up their bottom line”

Great. How is that good for guests?

How is it bad for the guest? I get being against it for your own principles but it's for the betterment of the park. This is a fact.

 

[ToTBellHop]

How is it bad for the guest? I get being against it for your own principles but it's for the betterment of the park. This is a fact.

It's not but that doesn't match the narrative.

Also, anyone who has been to Six Flags recently will see they run their parks horrendously and charge more for just about everything than Disney.

 

[danlb_2000]

How is it bad for the guest? I get being against it for your own principles but it's for the betterment of the park. This is a fact.

That is an opinion.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

That is an opinion.

No. It's footpath gain, now a complete loop and ride capacity gain. It's fact. Disliking it is the opinion.

 

[ToTBellHop]

No. It's footpath gain, now a complete loop and ride capacity gain. It's fact. Disliking it is the opinion.

What is "better" for the guest depends on how you measure what is "better".

I would imagine GSATs on this corner of the park will improve. Guest spending certainly will. Smiles per hour? We will see.

 

[danlb_2000]

No. It's footpath gain, now a complete loop and ride capacity gain. It's fact. Disliking it is the opinion.

What is the hourly capacity of the new Cars rides?

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

What is the hourly capacity of the new Cars rides?

Better than the hourly capacity of the former stuff that's being shuttered. Careful with that laugh react, your bias toward nostalgia is showing.

 

[danlb_2000]

No. It's footpath gain, now a complete loop and ride capacity gain. It's fact. Disliking it is the opinion.

It being for the betterment of the park is also an opinion.

 

[Dreamer19]

How is it bad for the guest? I get being against it for your own principles but it's for the betterment of the park. This is a fact.

I live in Orlando, I talk to people (including current Cast Members). Anecdotally, the consensus is that Disney has fallen in quality.

Do you think if you asked the average Guest about Disney Parks and if they’re better now than they were ten, twenty or thirty years ago….that they would agree?

Epcot, Splash to TBA, LL, the deterioration of Tomorrowland. It’s a pattern. I HATE that I feel this way, but again, talking to APs, CMs and locals….i know I’m not in the minority.

 

[danlb_2000]

Better than the hourly capacity of the former stuff that's being shuttered.

I repeat, what is the capacity of the new rides? You state as a fact that the new rides will have a higher capacity, so you must know the capacity of the new rides, otherwise it would just be your opinion.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

I live in Orlando, I talk to people (including current Cast Members). Anecdotally, the consensus is that Disney has fallen in quality.

Oh, no, on that I agree. Disney stopped being great long ago.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

I repeat, what is the capacity of the new rides? You state as a fact that the new rides will have a higher capacity, so you must know the capacity of the new rides, otherwise it would just be your opinion.

Why do you assume it wont?

 

[Dreamer19]

I keep seeing comments about “shareholders” on this board.

I have not seen the financial benefits of any of Disney leadership’s creative decisions.

 

[Dreamer19]

Oh, no, on that I agree. Disney stopped being great long ago.

I just know it CAN be great. That is why I am so passionate.

 

[Tha Realest]

With the size of Galaxy’s Edge you could do two of these. Bring back the Jedi Academy for one. Then you could even do a Sith experience on the other end near the Empire’s shuttle.

I am way more on board with what Disney is doing these days. The one thing I wish they would reintroduce is streetmosphere. I loved all that and really felt like it livened up the parks.

Jedi are so passé. Give me an adult cocktail party setting where we can watch CMs portraying Mon Mothma and Luthen have quiet discussions about the nascent rebellion.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I keep seeing comments about “shareholders” on this board.

I have not seen the financial benefits of any of Disney leadership’s creative decisions.

I have. The lack of anything new of substance in 2026 is saving me money since I won't be coming to WDW.

 

[Dreamer19]

I have. The lack of anything new of substance in 2026 is saving me money since I won't be coming to WDW.

I’m all for expansion. It’s too bad they don’t have the money…

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

What is "better" for the guest depends on how you measure what is "better".

I would imagine GSATs on this corner of the park will improve. Guest spending certainly will. Smiles per hour? We will see.

Certainly true, though I said betterment of the park. It may or may not be better for the guest. Though, I can't imagine what it's replacing will be any worse for the guest experience. I'm sure those GSATS will more than speak for that.

I repeat, what is the capacity of the new rides? You state as a fact that the new rides will have a higher capacity, so you must know the capacity of the new rides, otherwise it would just be your opinion.

You only need look at the capacity of a simple spinner ride and the likes of Radiator Spring Racers to know this will be a substantial improvement over a riverboat that was rarely at capacity or an island visited by more squirrels than guests. Letting nostalgia cloud your judgement doesn't mean the concept isn't good for the park and it's guests. Look at logistically.