News Avatar Experience coming to Disneyland Resort

ctrlaltdel

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The previous overview has a distinct split with a pair of narrow underpasses. Now knowing the location, I assume this is where the monorail will be artfully concealed.

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I think this concept art in particular is the idealized, 10-12 acre version if it were in one of the Disneyland Forward plots. Would expect it to be around half of this at this point, both narrower and shorter. Think it will likely take out most of the stuff to the south of your yellow line. Still think there will be a restaurant along with the ride/retail.

Will lead to a less grand overall land but the rock rings effect has an excellent chance to work very well.
 

Disney Irish

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I think this concept art in particular is the idealized, 10-12 acre version if it were in one of the Disneyland Forward plots. Would expect it to be around half of this at this point, both narrower and shorter. Think it will likely take out most of the stuff to the south of your yellow line. Still think there will be a restaurant along with the ride/retail.

Will lead to a less grand overall land but the rock rings effect has an excellent chance to work very well.
Except that concept art has lined up really well, almost exactly, with the Backlot since day one. I mean you can go back 2 years in this thread and see where a bunch of us have discussed it as such. I don't see how one can come to the conclusion it was specifically draw up for a DLF plot based on that concept art.
 

ctrlaltdel

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Except that concept art has lined up really well, almost exactly, with the Backlot since day one. I mean you can go back 2 years in this thread and see where a bunch of us have discussed it as such. I don't see how one can come to the conclusion it was specifically draw up for a DLF plot based on that concept art.
Yeah, I believe it’s always been the spot. Just that the concept art seems to be showing something quite a bit bigger than the land they have to work with (6-ish acres). Still can be a very high quality mini-land.
 

Disney Irish

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Yeah, I believe it’s always been the spot. Just that the concept art seems to be showing something quite a bit bigger than the land they have to work with (6-ish acres). Still can be a very high quality mini-land.
Its concept art, its not meant to be to scale and be a one-for-one depiction of everything down to the detail. Its meant to show a grand concept to "sell" it to the public. So yeah its meant to be larger than reality because that is what its meant to evoke, a large land.

I also wouldn't call it a "mini-land".
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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To each their own of course but I don't know how anybody could not be enthralled with Pandora. I think it's one of the most stunning places to exist in any theme park in the world.

Na'vi River Journey is not the most complex thing in the world but I really want more rides that are no story, all vibes and ambience. It's nice to just sit and look at pretty things. But then Flight of Passage is also one of the greatest theme park attractions in history which ties the land all together.

EPCOT is my sentimental and personal favorite of the four parks, but I think Animal Kingdom is probably objectively the best. It's theming, immersion, and beauty are unmatched by frankly any other Disney park in the US in my opinion.

If remains to be seen of course if they're going to be able to capture that same magic here, but if they come anywhere close, this will be an absolute win for DCA. Especially with this innovative and immersive ride system anchoring it.

I really don't know that this would give you motion sickness. It's fundamentally a boat ride, but with modernization to add more dynamics to the experience than just perpetual forward motion.
A ride-through video of the Shanghai boat ride made it clear what those massive screens would do to me on a moving boat.

And DAK, including Pandora, is a total snoozefest as I'm not into nature parks or zoos. I would gladly skip that place entirely if it weren't for FotLK which is an absolute fave reason to go to WDW. I would say it's too bad the rest of the park is so boring, but it means I can spend my day there just seeing FotLK over and over and calling that a productive time. But once FotLK eventually goes, I'd never need to waste a park day at DAK again.

All that said, I'm fine with any expansion for DCA. It needs it. Even if it's an area I'll ignore entirely while going about my day. Ultimately, it's a net loss for me as I lose one of the only two attractions in the park I genuinely enjoy and one of only three in the park that I can ride at all.
 
I’m guessing those rings will be just large enough to block the Hyperion building. The layout of the concept art matches almost perfectly with the existing layout. They’ll reuse the animation building on the right for dining/shopping/etc, turn the backlot stage on the left into that pond area, and the two bridges will replace the two walking paths, leading to the boat ride replacing Monsters Inc (with a facade we haven’t seen yet that blocks the monorail).

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I wish this were the plan. That fake Hollywood backdrop is my most disliked spot in all Disney parks in the world.
 

Disney Irish

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There is very little space behind Goofy’s so a dark ride there, unless two stories, would be very short.
The idea wasn't just taking over Goofy's itself, but the surrounding areas like Paradise Garden, Sunglass Hut, Corndog Castle, etc. There is enough space there to put a dark ride about the size of Mystic Manor.
 

mickEblu

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I’m probably more intrigued/ excited for the Coco ride but I should learn my lesson from when ROTR and MMRR were announced when I thought the latter would end up being the better attraction. Avatar is most likely going to blow Coco away. Now with that said, I appreciate DCA getting 4 new attractions but one of these need to a world class attraction. At least a Top 5 to Top 10 Disney attraction worldwide. I’d say Avatar has the best chance of being that but I just don’t like how the most recent concept art looks less grand than the original concept art and how they said they are early in the design process. Not to read too much into the concept art but even the boats look like they’ve been downgrade from Shanghai Pirates type boats to something more modest.
 

Disney Irish

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I’m probably more intrigued/ excited for the Coco ride but I should learn my lesson from when ROTR and MMRR were announced when I thought the latter would end up being the better attraction. Avatar is most likely going to blow Coco away. Now with that said, I appreciate DCA getting 4 new attractions but one of these need to a world class attraction. At least a Top 5 to Top 10 Disney attraction worldwide. I’d say Avatar has the best chance of being that but I just don’t like how the most recent concept art looks less grand than the original concept art and how they said they are early in the design process. Not to read too much into the concept art but even the boats look like they’ve been downgrade from Shanghai Pirates type boats to something more modest.
Obviously its subjective of a list, but why must one of them need to be in the top 5 to top 10 worldwide? Just my opinion, but that just seems like putting so much expectation and pressure on something way before its built that it can almost never live up to it.

We've had this discussion before about putting so much expectation on something that fans almost always end up disappointed, and I can see that happening again with your posts here. So just trying to understand why its happening again, why so much pressure?

Also I wouldn't read too much into the latest concept art, it was just a single image for a blog post. Its just meant to convey the idea for the announcement nothing more. I'd wait until we get further along when they actually start showing the details with more realistic concept art that we can more closely and properly identify things.
 

mickEblu

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Obviously its subjective of a list, but why must one of them need to be in the top 5 to top 10 worldwide? Just my opinion, but that just seems like putting so much expectation and pressure on something way before its built that it can almost never live up to it.

We've had this discussion before about putting so much expectation on something that fans almost always end up disappointed, and I can see that happening again with your posts here. So just trying to understand why its happening again, why so much pressure?

Also I wouldn't read too much into the latest concept art, it was just a single image for a blog post. Its just meant to convey the idea for the announcement nothing more. I'd wait until we get further along when they actually start showing the details with more realistic concept art that we can more closely and properly identify things.

I didn’t mean literally one. I meant at least one.
 

Disney Irish

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I didn’t mean literally one. I meant at least one.
The question still stands, why must one of them, any of them, be in the top 10 worldwide?

I personally just hope for a good experience, I don't care if its listed in the top 10, or even top 100 of Disney attractions worldwide. All I care about is how the experience is for me not how it stacks up against the rest of the Disney Parks attractions around the world.
 

mickEblu

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The question still stands, why must one of them, any of them, be in the top 10 worldwide?

I personally just hope for a good experience, I don't care if its listed in the top 10, or even top 100 of Disney attractions worldwide. All I care about is how the experience is for me not how it stacks up against the rest of the Disney Parks attractions around the world.

Lol you don’t care if it’s isn’t in the Top 100? So you dont care if it’s about as enjoyable as Super Star Limo. What are you even saying? I’m not even sure if we have 100 Disney attractions worldwide if we exclude clones. It’s not about the list. It’s about the caliber of the attraction that being a Top 5 or Top 10 obviously denotes. It’s pretty simple. I think expectations of brand new Avengers, Avatar, and Coco rides, the former 2 based on some of Disney’s biggest properties, all being built and designed in the mid to late 2020’s is that at least one of them will be World Class. I think if you have three 7’s it would be disappointing. One of them needs to be 9 or a 10.
 

Disney Irish

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Lol you don’t care if it’s isn’t in the Top 100? So you dont care if it’s about as enjoyable as Super Star Limo. What are you even saying? I’m not even sure if we have 100 Disney attractions worldwide if we exclude clones. It’s not about the list. It’s about the caliber of the attraction that being a Top 5 or Top 10 obviously denotes. It’s pretty simple. I think expectations of brand new Avengers, Avatar, and Coco rides, the former 2 based on some of Disney’s biggest properties, all being built and designed in the mid to late 2020’s is that at least one of them will be World Class. I think if you have three 7’s it would be disappointing. One of them needs to be 9 or a 10.
Obviously I was exaggerating by saying top 100, but the point still stands. I don’t really care where they on some arbitrary list. As long as they are enjoyable to me that is all that matters to me.

I understand what you’re saying, I just think it puts too much pressure on things and sets things up for disappointment. It’s why I always reserve judgement until I’ve experienced something first hand, it’s just my way.
 

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