D.Silentu
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I think you and truecoat have hit the nail on the head. It is also now possible for them to modify the site for their needs.
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NobodyElse
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That's my thinking as well. I don't know what percentage of that total space they were using, but for some reason I pictured all or most of it.
Disney Analyst
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Not paying someone else, and can do what they want with the building / land. Could see them make it a more efficient use of land / space for behind the scenes needs.
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This new area will provide approximately 6,000 parking spaces, shuttle and rideshare areas, security screening and dedicated access for traffic off of Disney Way, improving parking and traffic flow throughout the resort area. As you can see from the artist concept rendering above, this new parking and transportation hub will also feature a pedestrian bridge over Harbor Boulevard, leading to an all-new esplanade arrival experience. This pedestrian bridge will also provide convenient public access to and from Harbor Boulevard.
This new area will provide approximately 6,000 parking spaces, shuttle and rideshare areas, security screening and dedicated access for traffic off of Disney Way, improving parking and traffic flow throughout the resort area. As you can see from the artist concept rendering above, this new parking and transportation hub will also feature a pedestrian bridge over Harbor Boulevard, leading to an all-new esplanade arrival experience. This pedestrian bridge will also provide convenient public access to and from Harbor Boulevard.
Disney Irish
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We never thought we would see this day, can't wait until shovels hit the ground to know it real.......
But amazing how the new plan looks almost like the old plan just with some tweaks and improvements.
Disney Analyst
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It will definitely give the Disneyland Resort a more complete “beginning”, for that side of the property.
I really hope they redo the esplanade. It’s so bland. The entry to Disneyland Paris is stunning. Give us gardens, waterways, fountains, plants!
This is truly a magical way to start your day:
mickEblu
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This is beautiful but i don’t think even a smaller version of this possible with all the foot traffic hopping between both parks. With that said im all for some beautification somehow.
I want to see the other side of the bridge. Does it have an elevator and ramp like the west side?
mickEblu
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I’m not sure. I’d like to see that as well.
I just had an idea. The ramp and elevator are mirrored on both sides for pedestrian crossing and blocked off from all secure bridge traffic with a separate walkway. This makes the most sense and closes the crosswalk to pedestrian traffic. Hotel guests can cross the road and enter the park through the security entrance under the sign and people can cross over to eat at IHOP and McDonalds if they so choose without interfering with the security perimeter.
Edit. I think I'm right on this one. The pink-walled area and walkway behind the Disneyland Resort sign is the exit for hotel guests to get to the east side of Harbor.
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mickEblu
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Well that’s too bad. We always park at the Anaheim Hotel. So much more convenient than Mickey n Friends. Could have avoided one of the two crosswalks. Damn. Haha.
EDIT: Eh. Probably wouldn’t have been worth walking uphill on the bridge just to go back down.
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chadwpalm
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Agreed. There's no need for another elevator on the east side. The pedestrian entrance will still be open on Harbor, so that should satisfy the hotels that were complaining. Plus, those crossing Harbor on the bridge will have already gone through security. People going up an elevator on the east side of Harbor will not have. Hotel guests and pedestrians on Harbor will have to cross the crosswalk and go through security after going under the new Disneyland sign shown in the concept art.
britain
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Brickey speculates that the new parking garage has been revised with the parking lot guests primarily in mind, so much so that those guests may actually walk away from the garage from one of the high levels. Why make them come down to ground floor just to walk the long ramp back up and over the street?
Ground floor up to ramp made sense when you were forcing all Harbor foot traffic to enter this new eastern complex. Now that Harbor foot traffic can still use the crosswalk, no need to make the garage ground floor super pedestrian friendly. Ground floor can handle buses and shuttles (and, of course, it will have some pedestrian accommodations) but there's no need to force every driver parked in the garage down to the ground floor just to walk up a ramp again.
Disney Analyst
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Took that pic myself!
For sure it couldn’t be built like that at Disneyland, but they could do something… anything… I beg of them. Haha.
britain
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Unfortunately it appears that they want to keep "beautiful theming" inside the parks proper. We get "Exciting Abstract Modern" outside the berm.
mickEblu
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Some new pavers and a fountain in the middle would go a long way. If they can clog up the middle of the esplanade with that ugly Pixar Fest tower they can out a fountain there.
Disney Irish
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Unless something has changed, and this announcement doesn't give me any reason to believe it has, the crosswalk is being removed, as that is one of the main features of this project and why Anaheim approved it because they want the crosswalk removed for better car traffic flow on Harbor.
Remember this plan is basically like the original plan from 2016 just with some tweaks and accommodations for the Harbor businesses. And the plan was always for all Pumbaa lot guests to come down to the ground and go through security. IF, and its a big if, there will be security screening on the east side of Harbor before the bridge I still expect it to be at ground level like in the original plan. Anything else and I expect they would have put it in the announcement as it would be a feature to highlight, such as Brickey's thought that the Pumbaa lot guest would have their own dedicated security, etc. So no I don't expect that is going to happen here, all security will be before entering the bridge, or it'll be after the bridge in the esplanade.
Why? What's the purpose of going on the bridge when you can just walk at street level? And why would someone go through security only to exit to street level from the bridge?