JusticeDisney
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Oh, is that right? Point to a single thing that I either made up or claimed I never said after saying it. I’ll wait.
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!
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DarkMetroid567
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guys pls
Vegas Disney Fan
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I’ve never even heard of most the shows my nephews kids watch (I feel old just typing that), most of what they watch is on YouTube, apps, streaming services, or other non traditional media.
This is where I think D+ is going to be crucial to Disneys “nostalgia” future, unfortunately the only show that’s really connected with them so far is Bluey and some early Pixar stuff, D+ is the perfect venue to create nostalgia, much like Disney afternoons did with my generation and the Disney channel did with my nephews generation, they just need some viral shows to do it.
This is true, with with the Disney Afternoon and Disney Channel spinoff comparison you notice that Netflix and DreamWorks really did that with all of their series that Disney Plus has not quite done yet.
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MrPromey
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That's what they were supposedly doing with Moana and PATF, right?
Serous question: What happened?
Yeah definitely. Box office theater pipeline really needed it and cost was high for a TV series production.That's what they were supposedly doing with Moana and PATF, right?
Serous question: What happened?
A shame.
MrPromey
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Plus we now have a weird ride at the two US parks connected to a story that's been canceled.
There's still a short form feature (or several) that's in the works.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think that was the plan at the start but I also think D+ has morphed into something completely different from what it launched as, they seem to have abandoned the primarily kid/family friendly streaming service in favor of it being the Disney/ABC/Hulu/ESPN everything app.That's what they were supposedly doing with Moana and PATF, right?
Serous question: What happened?
Most of what's on D+ has little to no interest to me as a Disney person, that's probably true for most kids too. It's more like Netflix than the Disney channel.
MrPromey
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I hope whatever it is does the original movie justice.
Not a fan of the ride overlay (even less so after riding it in person) but the movie was bittersweet in that I think it was quite possibly the most beautiful hand drawn feature Disney ever made and of course, as we all know, the last. :/
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Before morphing into a general audience service, Disney+'s clientele at the start were 60% homes without children.
It only made sense at that point to switch from family (kids) to general (adults and kids).
Yep. Stuck with that.
My children are a small sample but it is what I can best go by with them and their friends. And it is wild how tastes have changed.apmost a bummer but if I don't like a lot of things I am not shocked they don't either.
My son daughter's world is HTTYD and my son is Transformers, JP, Gundam and a lotkf random. Trolls and Trolls 2 was nonstop at our place when our daughter was tiny. Mario movie for a bit and Minions are a win. They love playing Mario now more than watching. Mario Wonder is a masterpiece.
Sponebob still pleases everyone.
So much dang youtube. I will take anything with a story sometimes for their brain's sake
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lazyboy97o
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flynnibus
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Dude.. this is some serious backing yourself into the conclusion you want.
You're literally riding this "full priced ticket" thing into something way more than it is. We're literally less than a month into things.. and you're claiming all time opening success? "still doing busters" .. still? After a few weeks? This kind of stuff is measured in QUARTERS and YEARS.. not fortnights.
You're comparing apples and oranges with the ticket comparisons. Disney significantly discounted multi-day ticketing back then. The entire business model was different.. you can't discredit EPCOT's success because Disney had a different business model than UNI is using now. What it means is your method of comparison is invalid.
You're like the guy taking victory laps after the first quarter of play... act like you've been there man.
The park can't even run anywhere close to it's own full capacity, even after longer public previews than any other park I can think of, and you call it the 'smoothest'? This is some serious spin.
They make compromises to avoid disaster, and you make it sound like they are being overran with success. No, they simply went very conservative to try to avoid meltdowns.. and have managed to keep demand up even while making people pay for the park explicitly. That's what's happening.. They have a great product and have avoided a major meltdown in the public eye. I'm sure the execs are happy with the ticket demand... but gauging on totally arbitrary metrics? That's spin doctoring.
They are succeeding at their plan -- To extrapolate that to most successful opening simply because people have paid full price admission is a ridiculous reach around.
Parks like Shanghi Disneyland sold full price admission too.. and will still probably have twice as many guests in it's opening year than Epic will. (psst.. because Shanghi is a much bigger deal and draw... but that's why we don't draw conclusions on frivious self-gratifying stats)
No one discredited EPCOT's success. I specifically said this. Read entire discussions before posting.
All this and you want to compare Shanghai Disneyland in Mainland China to EPIC Universe in Orlando? You think being China vs third theme park at that resort in Orlando has something to do with it? (Shanghai Disney also allows Cast Members and families in and is Disney's first and only theme park of that resort with no other resorts quite like it around)
I covered all that when I said relative venture. But you are so quick to type all that out to prove something that just agrees with me.
Universal Epic Universe is a smaller capacity park than Maigic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom or EPCOT, and yet it is still near selling out even with these permitters. Yeah, its pretty dang a hit. Why do you think they are not selling expensive pass add ons early on for this light summer where the attendance is still selling well? Becuase attendance and guest spending is up. GSATS are upper for the park.
Uni would not charge more a day for EPIC than their other parks if it was doing anything lesser. The express pass demand very high valued in comparison and selling out.
And all this on a year that people predict a lighter summer?
Any other park opening you know of getting people well in and staying onsite when Annual Passes are not offered outside of Asia?
It is not sports. Shanghai's success in its method does not negate how amazing Epic has been doing relative to its market.
EPIC is a hit of a third park for a resort that has also had the most recent major theme park ground up opening in Central FL in 1999. They were the last to open one and most recent to open one. And in the theme park saturated market, the park is having a successful third at their resort.
Speaking of arbitrary, if you want to say "only a success for executives happy in a business sense" sure, but that leaves all kinds of subjectivity.
Disney wishes they could sell 16,000 to 22,000 full price tickets a day to any park not Magic Kingdom. (and even that one rarely gets those numbers outside of peak times of near full price admission)
Uni is going to ride doing that as long as they can, which is why, you can even sacrifice some attendance numbers for it.
I think there is a lot of local envy with this park that there are no annual passholder option.
Uni will need/want it like all of the others soon, but right now, busters.
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On the Disney threads, WDW is considered villainous for charging full price. But, for EU, that's a virtue? <shrug>
I don't think Disney is charging full price much of anywhere not MK anymore. Oh boy we want to talk current situation of WDW parks vs what dents EPIC must be making?
I don't know about virtue, but business is business.
EPCOT, Animal Kingdom and DHS are charging only around 60 bucks a day for FL residents.
Non FL residents are still getting into those for 89 bucks a day. under 59 bucks for a kids ticket. with three day tickets.
I notice Annual Passes to all parks and tiers have a generous lower first payment now enticements too. No coincidence there.
Lightish Summer for FL for long travelers, but a lighter summer for some parks for sure to have deals to keep them in.
The park that just opened two new shows, has an event enticing summer program and features Star Wars should not be having to resort to that.
It could be having to do with a lot of neglect and lack of substance in new additions as they remove other things.(you could insert this elsewhere too)
Chi84
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So Universal is more expensive than Disney. I wonder how long it will be before the media starts complaining about that.