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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!
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lazyboy97o
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This assumes consistent optimal operational performance.
A massive assumption at the moment
It only takes a 10-13 Silver, even on the best of days.
Eric Graham
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sorry, i apologize greatly...you're the President of Touring Plans...I really enjoy that site also!
Eric Graham
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and you also co-wrote the Unofficial Guides to Disneyworld/Land etc...what a great book too!
lentesta
Premium Member
It was a BAD PARK OPS DAY.
I mean, I was told ~16,500-ish is the max they want, maybe with some ramp-up since last week.
I was also told they're not planning on a significant ramp up before August. I imagine that could change if ride performance improves.
I was told (by park ops) that Ministry opened last week with ~5 of 17 ride vehicles operating at once, so ~500 guests/hour. And I think they were at 10 vehicles, so 1000 guests/hour yesterday.
Purduevian
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I'm always impressed at the amount of data you have. Combining the insider knowledge, asking the right people at the right time questions, and physically sending people to parks to count really gives you a very unique perspective on the operations of the park.
Other than BATM, I assume everything else is running "Max" capacity when it is open as far as you know?
That's a little more than all the rides' capacity combined. So, if there are really long lines... that truly is an ops problem.
I certainly was not blaming anyone… they can choose to do what they want…. It is just I see complaints about the Disney premiere Pass… while not so much with Universals express… sometimes it feels like a double standard… although I was not calling anyone out…I feel if there is demand it is a smart business decision… although I do not think either is worth it for myself…. Unless I stay onsite at Universal and get the free express with my stay
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Not really a double-standard, Universal Express Pass simply works better for their parks compared to the fast pass systems WDW has in place at their parks.
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lazyboy97o
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Attractions almost never run at max capacity. During programming, a park-wide assumption would typically be that you’re hitting about 90% of THRC. Different ops teams and ride systems will vary in their performance
I see. I agree with the express situation of daily ops. Not for me unless the Onsite hotel spree. It also creates the issue, if many did not use Express it would not be a necessity, so it was always a weird service situation for me.
I imagine that the way many see it different with some cause. Because both are business choices and providing a service comes with some nuances.
Disney Fastpass was alway free, and well established as a free tradition by the time it changed (to be fair Uni's original Express was a free priority return system too)
I think there are certainly some that have double standards issues, however there are the situation of what Premier Pass and Lightning Lane have become. For many it is not so much that it is a paid priority system, but sometimes the ONLY way you can be sure to ride something and almost always a scheduled time system even after paying for it.
Uni Express, like many other priorities passes you can use it once per attraction on your terms.
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A few details on the dragon drones via a new interview with Brady MacDonald and Universal Creative ride and show engineering manager Ryan Paul:
Universal Creative has been working for at least eight years to get dragon drones to fly through the skies over the Isle of Berk and Universal Epic Universe, according to Paul.
“The drone program is something that the team’s been working on for quite a few years now,” Paul said. “There’s been quite a bit of R&D in that realm. We’re talking down to materials. Every pound that you put on that drone is going to affect the way that it articulates and flies.”
Video footage has captured animatronic drone dragons flying over Epic Universe before the park’s opening.
“Those are our prototypes,” Paul said. “Those aren’t our final dragons. A lot of that is just the propeller programming and articulation of the wings.”
The traditional propeller-driven drones have articulated wings that use a series of small actuators to flap the wings.
“It doesn’t necessarily depend on the flapping of the wings to stay in flight,” Paul said. “That is just kind of that added element that is really kind of an aesthetic.”
The aerial drones will fall into two dragon classes: Gronckles and Monstrous Nightmares.
Gronckles are medium-sized Boulder Class dragons that are chunky and cute with gigantic heads, short bodies and relatively small wings that beat as fast as a hummingbird.
Monstrous Nightmares are large Stoker Class dragons that have long, snake-like necks and tails with sharp spines and a gigantic mouth capable of swallowing a Viking.
Universal Creative is still fine-tuning the dragon aerial drone show.
“That’s been a long time coming and it’s right at the threshold of being able to release,” Paul said. “Once we have that integrated and actually running as the show that we want it to, it’ll really add to the skyline.”
Full article:
www.ocregister.com
Universal Creative has been working for at least eight years to get dragon drones to fly through the skies over the Isle of Berk and Universal Epic Universe, according to Paul.
“The drone program is something that the team’s been working on for quite a few years now,” Paul said. “There’s been quite a bit of R&D in that realm. We’re talking down to materials. Every pound that you put on that drone is going to affect the way that it articulates and flies.”
Video footage has captured animatronic drone dragons flying over Epic Universe before the park’s opening.
“Those are our prototypes,” Paul said. “Those aren’t our final dragons. A lot of that is just the propeller programming and articulation of the wings.”
The traditional propeller-driven drones have articulated wings that use a series of small actuators to flap the wings.
“It doesn’t necessarily depend on the flapping of the wings to stay in flight,” Paul said. “That is just kind of that added element that is really kind of an aesthetic.”
The aerial drones will fall into two dragon classes: Gronckles and Monstrous Nightmares.
Gronckles are medium-sized Boulder Class dragons that are chunky and cute with gigantic heads, short bodies and relatively small wings that beat as fast as a hummingbird.
Monstrous Nightmares are large Stoker Class dragons that have long, snake-like necks and tails with sharp spines and a gigantic mouth capable of swallowing a Viking.
Universal Creative is still fine-tuning the dragon aerial drone show.
“That’s been a long time coming and it’s right at the threshold of being able to release,” Paul said. “Once we have that integrated and actually running as the show that we want it to, it’ll really add to the skyline.”
Full article:
How Universal made dragons fly over Epic Universe
The How to Train Your Dragon — Isle of Berk themed land opened this month at Universal Epic Universe in Florida.
www.ocregister.com
lentesta
Premium Member
Mine-Cart Madness is running in the 950/hour range, which I think is pretty close to max OHC.
We've not measured more than 1,500/hour at Monsters, and that's supposed to be at 2,000/hour.
We've seen a max of 450/hour at Fyre Drill, but that might be just low demand.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Yikes. Mack advertised their installation at Europa Park as doing 835 per hour.
lentesta
Premium Member
That's what we're expecting. I think it's that people don't want to get wet.
Jrb1979
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I have no issue with Disney having a premier pass. I have always been for it. My issue has always been the cheaper version Disney sells. IMO too many people are still using the LL queues and it affects standby. IMO Disney should follow Universal and only sell Premier pass.
