MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
I think it's safe to argue more people would plan a trip to say goodbye to MV3D as opposed to Tough to be a Bug or Triceratops. Also, FWIW:


AttractionClosing Date RevealedClosing DateDays Between
Maelstrom September 12th 2014October 5th 201423 Days
Great Movie RideJuly 15th 2017August 13th 201729 Days
Ellen’s Energy Adventure July 15th 2017August 13th 201729 Days
Splash Mountain (WDW)December 2nd 2022January 23rd 202351 Days
Country Bear JamboreeJanuary 9th 2024 January 27th 202418 Days
Test Track 2.0 April 5th 2024June 17th 202473 Days
Chester and Hester’s Dino-RamaOctober 14th 2024January 12th 202590 Days
MuppetVision 3DJanuary 24th 2025June 7th 2025125 Days
It’s Tough to be a BugFebruary 3rd 2025March 17th 202542 Days
I'm really annoyed that they closed Muppets so soon. Our trip starts July 8, and we won't get to see it. We'd already been planning the trip since before they announced the closure date.
 

Bocabear

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Perhaps they could keep a large crescent of water there at the Frontierland Promenade and dock Liberty Belle on the opposite side of the water with a 3/4 scale town set (Rainbow Ridge type) backing up to the new auto-parts mountains...so it looks like it is still operating... a whistle and steam release every so often.... At least then, that quadrant of the park would still resemble The Magic Kingdom....
 

sndral

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Cinderella castle is just scenery-nothing to really experience there, other than a restaurant. According to your logic, why not rip it out and put something there to add capacity? An important part of a THEME park vs an amusement park is the theming, which is significantly driven by scenery….
Sleeping Beauty’s castle in DL doesn’t even have a restaurant, thus it makes $0 - guess we should rip it out & replace it with a building housing a money making ride.
Cars Land is the best attraction in DCA.

Even if the revenue from the shops and eateries in that land don't make a ton of money on their own, the existence of the land is probably a large driver in park attendance, which is important in and of itself.

I think people are taking the success of Cars Land and extrapolating what it did to DCA to believe any Cars attraction or land would be an equal success at another Disney park. We know that's not the case with the two Cars rides at Disney Studios Paris, but even if the two at Magic Kingdom are not as bad, Magic Kingdom is already the most visited theme park in the world and this Cars addition won't have as large a focus on retail/dining.

It comes down to the belief that new rides sell LL and merch. I think that varies based on what's ultimately built.

Cosmic Rewind benefits from being the only coaster in that park, Tron the most intense in MK.

This Cars ride may be the breakout family hit that Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is, or maybe it won't. That's the risk they're taking.
The Radiator Springs Racers ride is the best ride in CA, if you can get on it. However, the ‘land’ you must traverse to get to the ride is uninspiring IMO & an area I’d avoid if I didn’t have to walk down that pavement to get from Maters to RSR. It sort of reminds me of the Dinosaur area of AK likely because both feature pavement so prominently.
Fortunately for the aesthetic of CA you have a large body of water elsewhere in the park to relieve the tedium of the black top. I’m trying to imagine what the soon to be former ROA open vistas will feel like once they are replaced by a Grizzly Flat type peak (except crowned w/ a piston) that you have to navigate around. The new ‘big’ ride at the MK will not be like RSR - they aren’t allocating enough space to achieve that - which is disappointing because RSRs is a great ride.
 
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Gusey

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Snow White’s castle in DL doesn’t even have a restaurant, thus it makes $0 - guess we should rip it out & replace it with a building housing a money making ride.
I mean Snow White's castle can only be found in the dark ride, Sleeping Beauty's on the other hand features the Sleeping Beauty Walkthrough attraction that actually gets taken care of. How many guests pay for photopass to take a photo of the whole family with the castle? The castle still makes money just by being the park icon. Are there any Photopass photographers even near WDW's RoA? I can only think of Haunted Mansion's and that's not facing the river
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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I hope they are not using Cars to get rid of TSI and ROA because if it was say only announcement for Villains then people would say Villains is built in the back and having some river or some parts with the boat would make a cool path from Haunted Mansion to it!
 

sndral

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I mean Snow White's castle can only be found in the dark ride, Sleeping Beauty's on the other hand features the Sleeping Beauty Walkthrough attraction that actually gets taken care of. How many guests pay for photopass to take a photo of the whole family with the castle? The castle still makes money just by being the park icon. Are there any Photopass photographers even near WDW's RoA? I can only think of Haunted Mansion's and that's not facing the river
Oops, I should know which castle is in DL - that’s the park I grew up going to & is by far the closer & thus cheaper option for a Disney fix 😆 but alas, my princess days are a distant memory.
 

Bocabear

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Sleeping Beauty’s castle in DL doesn’t even have a restaurant, thus it makes $0 - guess we should rip it out & replace it with a building housing a money making ride.

The Radiator Springs Racers ride is the best ride in CA, if you can get on it. However, the ‘land’ you must traverse to get to the ride is uninspiring IMO & an area I’d avoid if I didn’t have to walk down that pavement to get from Maters to RSR. It sort of reminds me of the Dinosaur area of AK likely because both feature pavement so prominently.
Fortunately for the aesthetic of CA you have a large body of water elsewhere in the park to relieve the tedium of the black top. I’m trying to imagine what the soon to be former ROA open vistas will feel like once they are replaced by a Grizzly Flat type peak (except crowned w/ a piston) that you have to navigate around. The new ‘big’ ride at the MK will not be like RSR - they aren’t allocating enough space to achieve that - which is disappointing because RSRs is a great ride.
I would disagree about Radiator Springs... We agree the ride is fantastic...it really is, but the rest of that land is equally beautiful and very well done... Multiple QS locations, multiple well themed shops... Two smaller attractions...and it looks just like the setting for the first movie...Instantly recognizable, gorgeously done... Yes there is a lot of pavement, but it is a match to the film location as it should be....in a world where Cars are alive, they would need pavement to move around and all....lol
 

Ragerunner

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be careful what you wish for...once they commence it is going to be a mess for 3 years minimum but probably a lot longer to full completion...and of course, forever changing the style and charm of the Magic Kingdom....
Construction impacts do happen when major construction is done.

Yes, it will also change the MK and will become a part of ‘new’ charm and tradition for decades to come.
 

flyerjab

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I remember the pre-D23 excitement as to what was being announced and what was not. There once was a period of time when a Moana water ride was rumored to be announced as a true expansion of Adventureland. Since Disney has yet to spend all of the monies allocated to the parks, and specifically WDW, would a ride expansion like this potentially incorporate water beyond what would be needed for a ride.

Adventureland already has water around the Swiss Family Tree House, as well as the water in Jungle Cruise and in the Pirates ride. Recalling @PREMiERdrum speaking about this, a pathway would run alongside Pirates and back to an expansion pad. This is where the Moana ride could go. Could more water be added from an aesthetics point of view? Almost making this a Moana mini-land? Maybe adding a water area around the ride was a possibility? I know that I know nothing beyond rumor. And as every Disney downer will tell me they never do phase 2, yada yada. And I’m certain @Disstevefan1 will tell me if they start in a few years or might be done in about 15 years lol. I’m just trying to add a bit of positivity around these parts, which is very difficult.
 

Disstevefan1

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I remember the pre-D23 excitement as to what was being announced and what was not. There once was a period of time when a Moana water ride was rumored to be announced as a true expansion of Adventureland. Since Disney has yet to spend all of the monies allocated to the parks, and specifically WDW, would a ride expansion like this potentially incorporate water beyond what would be needed for a ride.

Adventureland already has water around the Swiss Family Tree House, as well as the water in Jungle Cruise and in the Pirates ride. Recalling @PREMiERdrum speaking about this, a pathway would run alongside Pirates and back to an expansion pad. This is where the Moana ride could go. Could more water be added from an aesthetics point of view? Almost making this a Moana mini-land? Maybe adding a water area around the ride was a possibility? I know that I know nothing beyond rumor. And as every Disney downer will tell me they never do phase 2, yada yada. And I’m certain @Disstevefan1 will tell me if they start in a few years or might be done in about 15 years lol. I’m just trying to add a bit of positivity around these parts, which is very difficult.
Hey, I never said 15 years! 🤣 I know you were joking.

5 to 7 years maybe ;)

Technically, the clock stated at the D23 in 2024 when Josh said dirt was moving ;)
 

eddie104

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I remember the pre-D23 excitement as to what was being announced and what was not. There once was a period of time when a Moana water ride was rumored to be announced as a true expansion of Adventureland. Since Disney has yet to spend all of the monies allocated to the parks, and specifically WDW, would a ride expansion like this potentially incorporate water beyond what would be needed for a ride.

Adventureland already has water around the Swiss Family Tree House, as well as the water in Jungle Cruise and in the Pirates ride. Recalling @PREMiERdrum speaking about this, a pathway would run alongside Pirates and back to an expansion pad. This is where the Moana ride could go. Could more water be added from an aesthetics point of view? Almost making this a Moana mini-land? Maybe adding a water area around the ride was a possibility? I know that I know nothing beyond rumor. And as every Disney downer will tell me they never do phase 2, yada yada. And I’m certain @Disstevefan1 will tell me if they start in a few years or might be done in about 15 years lol. I’m just trying to add a bit of positivity around these parts, which is very difficult.
Technically a Moana expansion to Adventureland wouldn’t be a phase 2.

Just a completely separate project to what’s already happening to the MK.

I always wondered how they would take the original concept art they had for AK and transpose it to that empty pad.
 

mattpeto

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Technically a Moana expansion to Adventureland wouldn’t be a phase 2.

Just a completely separate project to what’s already happening to the MK.

I always wondered how they would take the original concept art they had for AK and transpose it to that empty pad.
I'd look at the Tokyo Disneyland recent art work as inspiration on what they would probably do to add a Moana log flume ride:

Kill Jungle Cruise.

They don't jump at expansion pads easily unfortunately.
 

eddie104

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I'd look at the Tokyo Disneyland recent art work as inspiration on what they would probably do to add a Moana log flume ride:

Kill Jungle Cruise.

They don't jump at expansion pads easily unfortunately.
What Tokyo does has nothing to do with us.

OLC is paying for anything they get over there and also we already discussed what’s popular here might not be popular over there.

Jungle Cruise is very profitable for WDW.
 

UNCgolf

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What Tokyo does has nothing to do with us.

OLC is paying for anything they get over there and also we already discussed what’s popular here might not be popular over there.

Jungle Cruise is very profitable for WDW.

While I don't think they're going to eliminate the Jungle Cruise, they could definitely make significantly more money on that plot of land if they replaced it.

A new E ticket would generate ILL sales (and would probably have lower operating costs by requiring fewer CMs), and they'd also be able to add dining and shopping.
 

EagleScout610

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While I don't think they're going to eliminate the Jungle Cruise, they could definitely make significantly more money on that plot of land if they replaced it.

A new E ticket would generate ILL sales (and would probably have lower operating costs by requiring fewer CMs), and they'd also be able to add dining and shopping.
Careful. Bob's gonna read your first paragraph and Jungle Cruise will be killed tommorow
 

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